| Tories pre-emptively blaming postal votes for losses in the by-elections today 10:53 - Feb 15 with 1232 views | ElderGrizzly |
Bang on message for their Trump like ways
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| Tories pre-emptively blaming postal votes for losses in the by-elections today on 10:55 - Feb 15 with 1213 views | itfcjoe |
That is nuts if it is true - if the Tories were serious about sorting electoral fraud looking into postal votes would have been much better idea than bringing in ID to try and gerrymander their supporter base |  |
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| Tories pre-emptively blaming postal votes for losses in the by-elections today on 10:58 - Feb 15 with 1184 views | SomethingBlue |
We're in for a total sh7tshow when the general election comes around and people have to know that they will do absolutely anything possible to rig or overturn it – these guys are very, very dangerous and the population in general is very, very complacent. |  |
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| Tories pre-emptively blaming postal votes for losses in the by-elections today on 10:58 - Feb 15 with 1183 views | Blueschev |
As an aside, is Steve Bannon involved at all in the PopCon nonsense or whatever it's called? |  | | |
| Tories pre-emptively blaming postal votes for losses in the by-elections today on 10:59 - Feb 15 with 1181 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Tories pre-emptively blaming postal votes for losses in the by-elections today on 10:55 - Feb 15 by itfcjoe |
That is nuts if it is true - if the Tories were serious about sorting electoral fraud looking into postal votes would have been much better idea than bringing in ID to try and gerrymander their supporter base |
All the GBNews and more right-leaning Tories and Tory media are at it today.
Voter ID (a Tory policy of course) is one of the reason postal votes have surged.
The pre-emptive weakening of a form of voting is a tried and tested tactic though as we have seen in the USA.
The fact that you need to pass checks to get a postal vote is also overlooked conveniently.
I use them all the while as it guarantees I can vote with travel etc. | | | |
| Tories pre-emptively blaming postal votes for losses in the by-elections today on 11:01 - Feb 15 with 1147 views | itfcjoe |
| Tories pre-emptively blaming postal votes for losses in the by-elections today on 10:59 - Feb 15 by ElderGrizzly |
All the GBNews and more right-leaning Tories and Tory media are at it today.
Voter ID (a Tory policy of course) is one of the reason postal votes have surged.
The pre-emptive weakening of a form of voting is a tried and tested tactic though as we have seen in the USA.
The fact that you need to pass checks to get a postal vote is also overlooked conveniently.
I use them all the while as it guarantees I can vote with travel etc. |
Postal votes are a good thing, but personally I don't think it's good when you have community leaders collating a huge chunk of voters and their votes and then being able to use them to vote as a block which is what happens.
Hard to work out how to change that though, but all this voter ID stuff was ill thought out and has hurt them and democracy | |
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| Tories pre-emptively blaming postal votes for losses in the by-elections today on 11:40 - Feb 15 with 1065 views | Guthrum |
| Tories pre-emptively blaming postal votes for losses in the by-elections today on 11:01 - Feb 15 by itfcjoe |
Postal votes are a good thing, but personally I don't think it's good when you have community leaders collating a huge chunk of voters and their votes and then being able to use them to vote as a block which is what happens.
Hard to work out how to change that though, but all this voter ID stuff was ill thought out and has hurt them and democracy |
Community leaders (of every variety*) have always had influence over where blocs of votes go, whether cast in person or postally.
The method may be slightly dubious, but that doesn't mean it's changed who those votes would have been for.
* From the local squire to vicars in pulpits and union activists. |  |
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| Tories pre-emptively blaming postal votes for losses in the by-elections today on 11:56 - Feb 15 with 1029 views | EdwardStone |
| Tories pre-emptively blaming postal votes for losses in the by-elections today on 11:40 - Feb 15 by Guthrum |
Community leaders (of every variety*) have always had influence over where blocs of votes go, whether cast in person or postally.
The method may be slightly dubious, but that doesn't mean it's changed who those votes would have been for.
* From the local squire to vicars in pulpits and union activists. |
A friend of mine lived in an Estate tied cottage in a small village in Berkshire
Before every election the local squire and Tory candidate would do a door-to-door of every estate tied cottage to "introduce" the Tory and make it pretty clear which way the resident was supposed to vote.....if they wished their tenancy to continue |  | | |
| Tories pre-emptively blaming postal votes for losses in the by-elections today on 12:48 - Feb 15 with 947 views | itfcjoe |
| Tories pre-emptively blaming postal votes for losses in the by-elections today on 11:40 - Feb 15 by Guthrum |
Community leaders (of every variety*) have always had influence over where blocs of votes go, whether cast in person or postally.
The method may be slightly dubious, but that doesn't mean it's changed who those votes would have been for.
* From the local squire to vicars in pulpits and union activists. |
It's different though to tie up a postal vote than to stick them into a booth where they actually have to make the cross though, plus they wouldn't have the facilities to get thousands of people out to vote on one day now | |
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| Tories pre-emptively blaming postal votes for losses in the by-elections today on 13:28 - Feb 15 with 885 views | DJR |
| Tories pre-emptively blaming postal votes for losses in the by-elections today on 11:01 - Feb 15 by itfcjoe |
Postal votes are a good thing, but personally I don't think it's good when you have community leaders collating a huge chunk of voters and their votes and then being able to use them to vote as a block which is what happens.
Hard to work out how to change that though, but all this voter ID stuff was ill thought out and has hurt them and democracy |
I am not convinced there is an issue with community leaders, which seems to me to be a bit of trope. More likely it is the Labour Party which has encouraged postal votes knowing the changes to voter ID could mean some of their voters could be caught out by not having ID on the day, as well as trying to avoid the fact that people on the day might be not be bothered to vote.
As it is, the Tories have for a long time ensured that as many of their supporters (often elderly) are signed up for postal votes. [Post edited 15 Feb 21:38]
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| Tories pre-emptively blaming postal votes for losses in the by-elections today on 16:23 - Feb 16 with 637 views | tractordownsouth |
| Tories pre-emptively blaming postal votes for losses in the by-elections today on 10:55 - Feb 15 by itfcjoe |
That is nuts if it is true - if the Tories were serious about sorting electoral fraud looking into postal votes would have been much better idea than bringing in ID to try and gerrymander their supporter base |
The new ID laws only apply to those who vote in person so they’ve been a big factor in the increase in postal votes. |  |
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