| Putin at it again on 18:19 - Aug 23 with 3079 views | J2BLUE |
Wow. Sky behind the curve if that has been confirmed. |  |
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| Putin at it again on 18:20 - Aug 23 with 3059 views | jaykay |
| Putin at it again on 18:19 - Aug 23 by J2BLUE |
Wow. Sky behind the curve if that has been confirmed. |
bbc have confirmed he was on the passenger list. |  |
| forensic experts say footers and spruces fingerprints were not found at the scene after the weekends rows |
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| Putin at it again on 18:22 - Aug 23 with 3023 views | RegencyBlue |
What a surprise…….said no one ever! |  | | |
| Putin at it again on 18:23 - Aug 23 with 3004 views | Herbivore |
I wonder if some of the former Wagner troops will kick off? They seemed pretty loyal to him. |  |
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| Putin at it again on 18:28 - Aug 23 with 2956 views | Churchman |
I suspect he was so disappointed to have let uncle Vlad down, in his grief he accidentally leant on the door handle at 35000 feet, depressurisation, he goes sky diving without a chute, aeroplane goes down and it’s all a tragic accident. Putin: oh dear never mind.
I wonder what the other passengers and pilot did wrong? |  | | |
| Putin at it again on 18:29 - Aug 23 with 2934 views | belgablue |
Russian planes are as dangerous as Russian stairwells and high windows. |  |
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| Putin at it again on 18:32 - Aug 23 with 2915 views | Steve_M |
| Putin at it again on 18:23 - Aug 23 by Herbivore |
I wonder if some of the former Wagner troops will kick off? They seemed pretty loyal to him. |
I think many have been gradually absorbed into more regular units over the last couple of months. This nice chap was on board the plane too:
Also, it emerged today that Surovkin was deposed from his military role a few weeks back, probably for being too close to Prighozin |  |
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| Putin at it again on 18:37 - Aug 23 with 2859 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Putin at it again on 18:20 - Aug 23 by jaykay |
bbc have confirmed he was on the passenger list. |
Being on a passenger list and being on a plane are of course two very different things here.
More than likely sunning himself on beach in Brazil |  | | |
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| Putin at it again on 18:38 - Aug 23 with 2849 views | tonybied |
This is why I don't understand why Prigozhin backed down when heading for Moscow, he was a dead man from that moment. I'm more surprised it's taken this long to happen to be honest. [Post edited 23 Aug 2023 18:39]
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| Putin at it again on 18:40 - Aug 23 with 2793 views | Churchman |
| Putin at it again on 18:32 - Aug 23 by Steve_M |
I think many have been gradually absorbed into more regular units over the last couple of months. This nice chap was on board the plane too:
Also, it emerged today that Surovkin was deposed from his military role a few weeks back, probably for being too close to Prighozin |
Bit of a clear out then. | | | |
| Putin at it again on 18:45 - Aug 23 with 2747 views | brogansnose |
I for one am totally surprised.
Does send a message to all and sundry in Russia and its neighbours. |  | | |
| Putin at it again on 18:57 - Aug 23 with 2634 views | Guthrum |
| Putin at it again on 18:37 - Aug 23 by ElderGrizzly |
Being on a passenger list and being on a plane are of course two very different things here.
More than likely sunning himself on beach in Brazil |
Or still Somewhere in Africa. |  |
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| Putin at it again on 19:00 - Aug 23 with 2606 views | Guthrum |
| Putin at it again on 18:45 - Aug 23 by brogansnose |
I for one am totally surprised.
Does send a message to all and sundry in Russia and its neighbours. |
Tho that message is: "Don't trust Putin or Lukashenko's word." | |
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| Putin at it again on 19:05 - Aug 23 with 2555 views | GavTWTD |
It was shot down. Not even pretending anymore. |  |
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| Putin at it again on 19:07 - Aug 23 with 2552 views | brogansnose |
| Putin at it again on 19:00 - Aug 23 by Guthrum |
Tho that message is: "Don't trust Putin or Lukashenko's word." |
I think we all know that the message is ' Putins gonna getcha'. Thing is, did Prighozin think that he as going to be alright and is Surovhkin looking over his shoulder ? | | | |
| Putin at it again on 19:07 - Aug 23 with 2550 views | Guthrum |
| Putin at it again on 18:38 - Aug 23 by tonybied |
This is why I don't understand why Prigozhin backed down when heading for Moscow, he was a dead man from that moment. I'm more surprised it's taken this long to happen to be honest. [Post edited 23 Aug 2023 18:39]
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Lost his nerve. Or the support he was relying on had not turned up/was ebbing away and felt it was better trying to negotiate than being outright defeated.
Maybe he thought he could talk his way out of it, using the credit of Wagner's successes. | |
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| Putin at it again on 19:09 - Aug 23 with 2527 views | Guthrum |
| Putin at it again on 19:07 - Aug 23 by brogansnose |
I think we all know that the message is ' Putins gonna getcha'. Thing is, did Prighozin think that he as going to be alright and is Surovhkin looking over his shoulder ? |
I'd imagine Surovhkin is quite secure - in the Lefortovo. | |
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| Putin at it again on 19:09 - Aug 23 with 2535 views | Churchman |
| Putin at it again on 18:57 - Aug 23 by Guthrum |
Or still Somewhere in Africa. |
How about totally destroy an aircraft with a few nobodies on it. Declare him a passenger and meanwhile shoot him into a hole in the ground in the middle of nowhere. Reputation intact through tragic accident, problem solved.
I love a conspiracy theory with no evidence whatsoever. | | | |
| Putin at it again on 19:10 - Aug 23 with 2520 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Putin at it again on 18:37 - Aug 23 by ElderGrizzly |
Being on a passenger list and being on a plane are of course two very different things here.
More than likely sunning himself on beach in Brazil |
Or he was setting off for a new life on the moon when his Russian rocket “crashed”. |  | | |
| Putin at it again on 19:18 - Aug 23 with 2470 views | Guthrum |
| Putin at it again on 19:09 - Aug 23 by Churchman |
How about totally destroy an aircraft with a few nobodies on it. Declare him a passenger and meanwhile shoot him into a hole in the ground in the middle of nowhere. Reputation intact through tragic accident, problem solved.
I love a conspiracy theory with no evidence whatsoever. |
Thing about gangsters is they like their killings to be very public. Useful for spreading fear and respect. | |
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| Putin at it again on 19:23 - Aug 23 with 2395 views | Guthrum |
| Putin at it again on 18:37 - Aug 23 by ElderGrizzly |
Being on a passenger list and being on a plane are of course two very different things here.
More than likely sunning himself on beach in Brazil |
There is also a possibility Prigozhin was on the helicopter which defected to Ukraine ... | |
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| Putin at it again on 19:31 - Aug 23 with 2296 views | HARRY10 |
| Putin at it again on 19:07 - Aug 23 by brogansnose |
I think we all know that the message is ' Putins gonna getcha'. Thing is, did Prighozin think that he as going to be alright and is Surovhkin looking over his shoulder ? |
The question still remains, who benefits. It is too easy to see Ivan as some barbarian all too willing to kill folk.
The old maxim 'keep your friends close and your enemies closer'certainly holds true here.
The Wagner chap had been sent in exile (Trotsky). So what event, or upcoming event triggered his death now ? Assuming Russia was responsible and he was killed. | | | |
| Putin at it again on 19:32 - Aug 23 with 2280 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Putin at it again on 19:31 - Aug 23 by HARRY10 |
The question still remains, who benefits. It is too easy to see Ivan as some barbarian all too willing to kill folk.
The old maxim 'keep your friends close and your enemies closer'certainly holds true here.
The Wagner chap had been sent in exile (Trotsky). So what event, or upcoming event triggered his death now ? Assuming Russia was responsible and he was killed. |
Really?
Of course Russia did it. And its because he dissed Putin. It was inevitable from the moment he foolishly backed down and did a "deal". | | | |
| Putin at it again on 19:38 - Aug 23 with 2245 views | Churchman |
| Putin at it again on 19:31 - Aug 23 by HARRY10 |
The question still remains, who benefits. It is too easy to see Ivan as some barbarian all too willing to kill folk.
The old maxim 'keep your friends close and your enemies closer'certainly holds true here.
The Wagner chap had been sent in exile (Trotsky). So what event, or upcoming event triggered his death now ? Assuming Russia was responsible and he was killed. |
I think we can safely assume Putin was responsible. | | | |
| Putin at it again on 19:45 - Aug 23 with 2181 views | lowhouseblue |
| Putin at it again on 19:31 - Aug 23 by HARRY10 |
The question still remains, who benefits. It is too easy to see Ivan as some barbarian all too willing to kill folk.
The old maxim 'keep your friends close and your enemies closer'certainly holds true here.
The Wagner chap had been sent in exile (Trotsky). So what event, or upcoming event triggered his death now ? Assuming Russia was responsible and he was killed. |
ohhhh, perhaps it's a false flag? someone (america obviously) wanting to make putin look bad.
sorry i still miss cil. |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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