| Is this man a Tory in disguise? on 16:56 - Dec 11 with 2211 views | jeera |
I used to like him and I'm forgetting why more recently. |  |
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| Is this man a Tory in disguise? on 17:27 - Dec 11 with 2177 views | Darth_Koont |
Both Streeting and Starmer have Big Healthcare as donors.
They're certainly something in disguise. |  |
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| Is this man a Tory in disguise? on 17:51 - Dec 11 with 2130 views | thatbdude |
| Is this man a Tory in disguise? on 17:27 - Dec 11 by Darth_Koont |
Both Streeting and Starmer have Big Healthcare as donors.
They're certainly something in disguise. |
Tbf all they need do is wear a red tie and their no longer tories |  |
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| Is this man a Tory in disguise? on 18:26 - Dec 11 with 2076 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Uncomfortable isn't it....we have finally arrived at US style no options politics. |  |
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| Is this man a Tory in disguise? on 20:02 - Dec 11 with 2020 views | XYZ |
In 2010 the NHS was the world's top rated health service.
The state it's in is not accidental.
Streeting is dangerous on this. |  | | |
| Is this man a Tory in disguise? on 20:15 - Dec 11 with 1973 views | Argyle_blue |
| Is this man a Tory in disguise? on 18:26 - Dec 11 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Uncomfortable isn't it....we have finally arrived at US style no options politics. |
Has Starmer not committed to pushing for proportional representation? |  | | |
| Is this man a Tory in disguise? on 20:34 - Dec 11 with 1945 views | Swansea_Blue |
The article doesn’t seem as damning as the headline. It seems reasonable to expect improved outcomes from more spending. Optics are bad though. I bet he’s getting a grilling over using the word ‘hostile’. And of course it would be better if he was explicitly on the side of workers. |  |
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| Is this man a Tory in disguise? on 20:43 - Dec 11 with 1931 views | lowhouseblue |
| Is this man a Tory in disguise? on 20:02 - Dec 11 by XYZ |
In 2010 the NHS was the world's top rated health service.
The state it's in is not accidental.
Streeting is dangerous on this. |
"In 2010 the NHS was the world's top rated health service." so that was at the end of the last labour government - and blair's government at that. what a testimony. |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Is this man a Tory in disguise? on 20:47 - Dec 11 with 1906 views | XYZ |
| Is this man a Tory in disguise? on 20:43 - Dec 11 by lowhouseblue |
"In 2010 the NHS was the world's top rated health service." so that was at the end of the last labour government - and blair's government at that. what a testimony. |
Well, Brown's government actually, but no-one expects you to get your facts straight.
You seem to have me down as a Blair/ Brown critic?
Do me a favour and go get some evidence. | | | |
| Is this man a Tory in disguise? on 20:53 - Dec 11 with 1884 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Is this man a Tory in disguise? on 20:43 - Dec 11 by lowhouseblue |
"In 2010 the NHS was the world's top rated health service." so that was at the end of the last labour government - and blair's government at that. what a testimony. |
In 2010 the Netherlands was the world’s top rated health service. The UK came in at number one for efficiency.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10375877 |  |
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| Is this man a Tory in disguise? on 21:00 - Dec 11 with 1864 views | Swansea_Blue |
“The UK performed well when it came to quality of care and access to care.”
TWTD | |
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| Is this man a Tory in disguise? on 21:01 - Dec 11 with 1863 views | XYZ |
Log out; log in.
Reply to replies. He's on ignore, don't you know.
The Cancel Culture Club at work. | | | |
| Is this man a Tory in disguise? on 21:27 - Dec 11 with 1836 views | XYZ |
| Is this man a Tory in disguise? on 21:01 - Dec 11 by XYZ |
Log out; log in.
Reply to replies. He's on ignore, don't you know.
The Cancel Culture Club at work. |
Lol. A down arrow from the errand boy.
Good work, son. | | | |
| Is this man a Tory in disguise? on 21:33 - Dec 11 with 1784 views | lowhouseblue |
| Is this man a Tory in disguise? on 20:47 - Dec 11 by XYZ |
Well, Brown's government actually, but no-one expects you to get your facts straight.
You seem to have me down as a Blair/ Brown critic?
Do me a favour and go get some evidence. |
my post wasn't challenging you - it was pointing out the implication of what you'd said for the hard of thinking elsewhere on the thread. | |
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| Is this man a Tory in disguise? on 21:33 - Dec 11 with 1778 views | DJR |
| Is this man a Tory in disguise? on 20:34 - Dec 11 by Swansea_Blue |
The article doesn’t seem as damning as the headline. It seems reasonable to expect improved outcomes from more spending. Optics are bad though. I bet he’s getting a grilling over using the word ‘hostile’. And of course it would be better if he was explicitly on the side of workers. |
Streeting was obviously trying to curry favour with Telegraph readers with his interview, but I think he's been had both in terms of the headline, and the latest article and headline.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/12/11/wes-streeting-accused-declaring-
Not a good look when those in the NHS are under tremendous pressure, there is a recruitment crisis, and pay in the NHS has fallen dramatically in real terms.
As Billy Bragg might have once sung "which side are Labour on?" [Post edited 11 Dec 2022 21:45]
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| Is this man a Tory in disguise? on 21:34 - Dec 11 with 1765 views | XYZ |
| Is this man a Tory in disguise? on 21:33 - Dec 11 by lowhouseblue |
my post wasn't challenging you - it was pointing out the implication of what you'd said for the hard of thinking elsewhere on the thread. |
What's your opinion on/ of Streeting? | | | |
| Is this man a Tory in disguise? on 21:58 - Dec 11 with 1733 views | XYZ |
| Is this man a Tory in disguise? on 21:34 - Dec 11 by XYZ |
What's your opinion on/ of Streeting? |
Not willing to engage?
My response was posted a minute after your post.
Slightly weird posting something then running off ... | | | |
| Is this man a Tory in disguise? on 00:52 - Dec 12 with 1645 views | SpruceMoose |
| Is this man a Tory in disguise? on 21:34 - Dec 11 by XYZ |
What's your opinion on/ of Streeting? |
He'll get back to you as soon as [REDACTED] tells him! |  |
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| Is this man a Tory in disguise? on 09:01 - Dec 12 with 1501 views | GlasgowBlue |
I’m not sure what he is actually saying is in any way unreasonable.
Is it heresy to want better standards for patients? [Post edited 12 Dec 2022 9:03]
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| Is this man a Tory in disguise? on 09:29 - Dec 12 with 1464 views | Darth_Koont |
| Is this man a Tory in disguise? on 09:01 - Dec 12 by GlasgowBlue |
I’m not sure what he is actually saying is in any way unreasonable.
Is it heresy to want better standards for patients? [Post edited 12 Dec 2022 9:03]
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I suspect that the BMA are dismayed that yet another empty suit with a narrow ideology is again pointing the finger at the people within the NHS.
You can’t drive efficiency and targets to cut the NHS to the bone, admit that the staffing levels are lacking and then say healthcare professionals need to do better for their patients.
Streeting should listen more. | |
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| Is this man a Tory in disguise? on 09:39 - Dec 12 with 1446 views | DJR |
| Is this man a Tory in disguise? on 09:01 - Dec 12 by GlasgowBlue |
I’m not sure what he is actually saying is in any way unreasonable.
Is it heresy to want better standards for patients? [Post edited 12 Dec 2022 9:03]
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Whatever the position, I am not sure politically that this is the time to be picking fights with any section of the NHS workforce.
In any event, he says in the interview that people should be able to see doctors face to face, which to my mind seems to be blaming the GPs for the current problems, when it is a shortage of GPs that is the problem.
The fact is that the more the medical profession is antagonised, the more newly qualified doctors in the UK will just up sticks and head off to places like Australia, or consultants will do more private work. [Post edited 12 Dec 2022 9:41]
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| Is this man a Tory in disguise? on 09:40 - Dec 12 with 1442 views | BlueRaider |
There are changes needed, there are inefficiencies, for instance if you get referred to a specialist, who on seeing you decides that you need to see a different specialist, they have to send you back to your GP with a letter who then refers you on, which is just a waste of a valuable GP appointment.
Also the tendency to still send letters, costly and slow, why not use email ?
And these are just my experience | |
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| Is this man a Tory in disguise? on 09:47 - Dec 12 with 1432 views | DJR |
| Is this man a Tory in disguise? on 09:40 - Dec 12 by BlueRaider |
There are changes needed, there are inefficiencies, for instance if you get referred to a specialist, who on seeing you decides that you need to see a different specialist, they have to send you back to your GP with a letter who then refers you on, which is just a waste of a valuable GP appointment.
Also the tendency to still send letters, costly and slow, why not use email ?
And these are just my experience |
You can have all the efficiencies in the world, but fundamentally it is the number of doctors per capita that matters, and look how low down we are in the list near the end of the following article.
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-with-the-most-physicians-per-capit [Post edited 12 Dec 2022 9:48]
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| Is this man a Tory in disguise? on 10:12 - Dec 12 with 1389 views | DJR |
| Is this man a Tory in disguise? on 09:39 - Dec 12 by DJR |
Whatever the position, I am not sure politically that this is the time to be picking fights with any section of the NHS workforce.
In any event, he says in the interview that people should be able to see doctors face to face, which to my mind seems to be blaming the GPs for the current problems, when it is a shortage of GPs that is the problem.
The fact is that the more the medical profession is antagonised, the more newly qualified doctors in the UK will just up sticks and head off to places like Australia, or consultants will do more private work. [Post edited 12 Dec 2022 9:41]
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Starmer has just doubled-down on Streeting's criticism.
The issue I have with this, in particular, is that it mirrors the really nasty campaign the Mail has been running against GPs, which is designed to make it seem that is the doctors, rather than the government, which are responsible for the crisis in the health service. | | | |
| Is this man a Tory in disguise? on 11:00 - Dec 12 with 1349 views | leitrimblue |
Sh1tist disguise ever |  | | |
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