| Working in London and living rurally - I simply do not know how this can work?! 15:17 - Aug 19 with 6857 views | unstableblue |
BREXIT MADNESS!!!
Brexit: Freedom of movement 'will end' says the government
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49393556
All the businesses in London it seems to me rely on flexible, low skilled, short term migrant Europeans - whether in bars, restaurants, hotels, shops, cleaning services... how is the capital going to function?!
Then there are the farms requiring migrant workers, relied on them for decades.
Someone needs to get hold of this... this cabinet is full of right wing loons. |  |
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| Working in London and living rurally - I simply do not know how this can work?! on 15:21 - Aug 19 with 4268 views | StokieBlue |
It's utterly barmy, what happens on the 1st November, does everyone without a work permit not turn up? It will be chaos. It's not just low skilled jobs - what about doctors, nurses, scientists etc etc etc.
It's playing to their crowd though - it's exactly what a lot of people think/said they voted for.
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| Working in London and living rurally - I simply do not know how this can work?! on 15:24 - Aug 19 with 4239 views | 26_Paz |
What they've said is that anyone from EU member states who is currently here can stay but that post Brexit free movement will end. Sensible solution in my opinion. |  |
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| Working in London and living rurally - I simply do not know how this can work?! on 15:26 - Aug 19 with 4233 views | StokieBlue |
| Working in London and living rurally - I simply do not know how this can work?! on 15:24 - Aug 19 by 26_Paz |
What they've said is that anyone from EU member states who is currently here can stay but that post Brexit free movement will end. Sensible solution in my opinion. |
"EU nationals who are already in the UK would be unaffected and can apply for settled status or pre-settled status in the same way as now."
Let's see how those applications go shall we? Until we know that you can't say it's sensible or that people will be allowed to stay.
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| Working in London and living rurally - I simply do not know how this can work?! on 15:26 - Aug 19 with 4231 views | chicoazul |
Surely the "right wing" thing to do would be to continue with FOM? A cheap mobile workforce happy to do the jobs many British people arent. This for me is the one great gamble of Brexit, the assumption that local people will pick up the slack.
But at the end of the day I fully expect FOM to continue, just in a different guise. |  |
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| Working in London and living rurally - I simply do not know how this can work?! on 15:28 - Aug 19 with 4220 views | 26_Paz |
| Working in London and living rurally - I simply do not know how this can work?! on 15:26 - Aug 19 by StokieBlue |
"EU nationals who are already in the UK would be unaffected and can apply for settled status or pre-settled status in the same way as now."
Let's see how those applications go shall we? Until we know that you can't say it's sensible or that people will be allowed to stay.
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Sorry? The statement you've copied and pasted from the article says that people already here will be allowed to stay. That's exactly what is says. | |
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| Working in London and living rurally - I simply do not know how this can work?! on 15:28 - Aug 19 with 4227 views | itfcjoe |
| Working in London and living rurally - I simply do not know how this can work?! on 15:21 - Aug 19 by StokieBlue |
It's utterly barmy, what happens on the 1st November, does everyone without a work permit not turn up? It will be chaos. It's not just low skilled jobs - what about doctors, nurses, scientists etc etc etc.
It's playing to their crowd though - it's exactly what a lot of people think/said they voted for.
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What about people who are on holiday when the date passes - will a nurse who has lived here for 3 years be able to return to carry on her job |  |
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| Working in London and living rurally - I simply do not know how this can work?! on 15:29 - Aug 19 with 4220 views | itfcjoe |
| Working in London and living rurally - I simply do not know how this can work?! on 15:26 - Aug 19 by chicoazul |
Surely the "right wing" thing to do would be to continue with FOM? A cheap mobile workforce happy to do the jobs many British people arent. This for me is the one great gamble of Brexit, the assumption that local people will pick up the slack.
But at the end of the day I fully expect FOM to continue, just in a different guise. |
FOM has to continue, the country will grind to a halt very quickly without it | |
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| Working in London and living rurally - I simply do not know how this can work?! on 15:30 - Aug 19 with 4207 views | BlueBadger |
| Working in London and living rurally - I simply do not know how this can work?! on 15:24 - Aug 19 by 26_Paz |
What they've said is that anyone from EU member states who is currently here can stay but that post Brexit free movement will end. Sensible solution in my opinion. |
What happens to those who's settled status is unresolved for those who are out of the country working or on holiday come November? Does it apply to those who are bringing in goods? What about those coming here on holiday?
This is just pandering to the blue passports and no foreigners crowd who'd much rather indulge their xenophobia than actually see their country function. |  |
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| Working in London and living rurally - I simply do not know how this can work?! on 15:32 - Aug 19 with 4203 views | caught-in-limbo |
Reorder the following words to create two sentences, sit down and then have a cup of tea.
not it's going happen to.
such into stop getting flap a. |  |
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| Working in London and living rurally - I simply do not know how this can work?! on 15:33 - Aug 19 with 4191 views | 26_Paz |
| Working in London and living rurally - I simply do not know how this can work?! on 15:30 - Aug 19 by BlueBadger |
What happens to those who's settled status is unresolved for those who are out of the country working or on holiday come November? Does it apply to those who are bringing in goods? What about those coming here on holiday?
This is just pandering to the blue passports and no foreigners crowd who'd much rather indulge their xenophobia than actually see their country function. |
They're not going to stop people coming back from holiday and to suggest they are is the kind of scare mongering nonsense that stops people listening to all this. | |
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| Working in London and living rurally - I simply do not know how this can work?! on 15:34 - Aug 19 with 4185 views | 26_Paz |
| Working in London and living rurally - I simply do not know how this can work?! on 15:28 - Aug 19 by itfcjoe |
What about people who are on holiday when the date passes - will a nurse who has lived here for 3 years be able to return to carry on her job |
Quick answer to that one. Yes. Next. | |
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| Working in London and living rurally - I simply do not know how this can work?! on 15:34 - Aug 19 with 4192 views | homer_123 |
So, we as a nation, surely need to ask ourselves some basic questions here.
Who's driving the need to rely on low skilled, short term cheap labour?
We, the consumer, forget pretty much everything else - we want cheap, cheap, cheap.
Exactly how are we helping anyone or anything by getting our cards washed at the local 'Hand car wash', for example?
We, as a nation, rely of people to come here and work and learn and that should be encouraged but for the right reasons. We need skilled doctors, nurses et al in our NHS for example. Yes, we do need other kinds of workers to fulfil other jobs as well but let me ask you an even more pertinent question.....if a business fails because it cannot afford to pay it's workers anything more than minimum wage (or below for cash in hand jobs etc.) then something is mightily wrong with either the business and the way it's run and/ or the wider consumer factor that is driving down price. |  |
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| Working in London and living rurally - I simply do not know how this can work?! on 15:40 - Aug 19 with 4161 views | StokieBlue |
| Working in London and living rurally - I simply do not know how this can work?! on 15:28 - Aug 19 by 26_Paz |
Sorry? The statement you've copied and pasted from the article says that people already here will be allowed to stay. That's exactly what is says. |
Not really what it says though. It says they can apply to stay in the same way as now but we have no idea how that process will be affected.
It's a legitimate question to ask.
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| Working in London and living rurally - I simply do not know how this can work?! on 15:41 - Aug 19 with 4156 views | tabletopjoe |
The glaringly obvious question is, where are all the English people? |  |
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| Working in London and living rurally - I simply do not know how this can work?! on 15:42 - Aug 19 with 4150 views | BlueBadger |
| Working in London and living rurally - I simply do not know how this can work?! on 15:33 - Aug 19 by 26_Paz |
They're not going to stop people coming back from holiday and to suggest they are is the kind of scare mongering nonsense that stops people listening to all this. |
What happens to those who are offered jobs prior to November?
And what happens to the approximately 2 million British people living across the EU? | |
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| Working in London and living rurally - I simply do not know how this can work?! on 15:42 - Aug 19 with 4138 views | BlueBadger |
| Working in London and living rurally - I simply do not know how this can work?! on 15:32 - Aug 19 by caught-in-limbo |
Reorder the following words to create two sentences, sit down and then have a cup of tea.
not it's going happen to.
such into stop getting flap a. |
LOL at Paz upvoting you saying 'Brexit isn't going to happen'. | |
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| Working in London and living rurally - I simply do not know how this can work?! on 15:44 - Aug 19 with 4139 views | itfcjoe |
| Working in London and living rurally - I simply do not know how this can work?! on 15:34 - Aug 19 by 26_Paz |
Quick answer to that one. Yes. Next. |
How do these people prove that they are returning from holiday when they get to the airport? It's one thing saying it - but think about how it is going to be applied by customs officials at the gate? | |
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| Working in London and living rurally - I simply do not know how this can work?! on 15:45 - Aug 19 with 4122 views | homer_123 |
| Working in London and living rurally - I simply do not know how this can work?! on 15:41 - Aug 19 by tabletopjoe |
The glaringly obvious question is, where are all the English people? |
Spain innit | |
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| Working in London and living rurally - I simply do not know how this can work?! on 15:52 - Aug 19 with 4088 views | 26_Paz |
| Working in London and living rurally - I simply do not know how this can work?! on 15:42 - Aug 19 by BlueBadger |
LOL at Paz upvoting you saying 'Brexit isn't going to happen'. |
I assumed he meant all the doomsday scenarios being bandied about are not going to happen, which they're obviously not. | |
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| Working in London and living rurally - I simply do not know how this can work?! on 15:52 - Aug 19 with 4091 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Working in London and living rurally - I simply do not know how this can work?! on 15:33 - Aug 19 by 26_Paz |
They're not going to stop people coming back from holiday and to suggest they are is the kind of scare mongering nonsense that stops people listening to all this. |
In the same way that the workforce described in the OP continues to be required and the whole "stopping freedom of movement" is just a soundbite to placate those on the right of their party and will never actually happen. They could already have limited it far more whilst remaining in the EU had they so desired.
Unfortunately, the soundbites alienate EU (and other foreign) nationals and make racists feel entitled to be more open and oppressive. There is evidence that this is already causing a decline in the required foreign nationals to provide the workforce we require.
Of course, all our dole spongers will suddenly step up to the plate, prove their desire to do minimum wage seasonal fruit picking and the aptitude for skilled low-paid care and nursing work. |  |
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| Working in London and living rurally - I simply do not know how this can work?! on 15:56 - Aug 19 with 4074 views | BlueBadger |
| Working in London and living rurally - I simply do not know how this can work?! on 15:52 - Aug 19 by 26_Paz |
I assumed he meant all the doomsday scenarios being bandied about are not going to happen, which they're obviously not. |
Are you trying to suggest that things documented in the government's own Project Yellowhammer are just 'Project Fear'? | |
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| Working in London and living rurally - I simply do not know how this can work?! on 16:11 - Aug 19 with 4017 views | Pendejo |
| Working in London and living rurally - I simply do not know how this can work?! on 15:30 - Aug 19 by BlueBadger |
What happens to those who's settled status is unresolved for those who are out of the country working or on holiday come November? Does it apply to those who are bringing in goods? What about those coming here on holiday?
This is just pandering to the blue passports and no foreigners crowd who'd much rather indulge their xenophobia than actually see their country function. |
Refuse entry, seize all their assets and re-distribute the wealth amongst the old etonians |  |
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| Working in London and living rurally - I simply do not know how this can work?! on 16:15 - Aug 19 with 4002 views | 26_Paz |
| Working in London and living rurally - I simply do not know how this can work?! on 15:56 - Aug 19 by BlueBadger |
Are you trying to suggest that things documented in the government's own Project Yellowhammer are just 'Project Fear'? |
Yes, that was from the previous defeatist remoaner government. | |
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| Working in London and living rurally - I simply do not know how this can work?! on 16:17 - Aug 19 with 3989 views | footers |
| Working in London and living rurally - I simply do not know how this can work?! on 15:52 - Aug 19 by 26_Paz |
I assumed he meant all the doomsday scenarios being bandied about are not going to happen, which they're obviously not. |
*post bookmarked* |  |
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| Working in London and living rurally - I simply do not know how this can work?! on 16:22 - Aug 19 with 3973 views | StokieBlue |
| Working in London and living rurally - I simply do not know how this can work?! on 16:15 - Aug 19 by 26_Paz |
Yes, that was from the previous defeatist remoaner government. |
A well structured and formidable argument.
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