| Taylor review ....Cash in hand 06:46 - Jul 11 with 18389 views | gtsb1966 |
You'll never stop it. It has always been one price for cash and one for cheque etc. It may be wrong morally but I've never had a problem paying cash. Can't see many people paying their window cleaner by card either. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40561807 [Post edited 11 Jul 2017 6:55]
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| Taylor review ....Cash in hand on 06:58 - Jul 11 with 7231 views | blue_oyster |
It's amusing to see the hypocrisy of people who will rage for companies like Starbucks and Amazon to pay tax that they are not required to, then turn a blind eye when paying the window cleaner, decorator or garage who illegally avoid paying VAT. |  |
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| Taylor review ....Cash in hand on 07:27 - Jul 11 with 7162 views | tcblue |
Your window cleaner does enough turnover to have to be VAT registered?! |  | | |
| Taylor review ....Cash in hand on 07:29 - Jul 11 with 7161 views | witchdoctor |
I'm a window cleaner and get paid by various methods...cash...cheque and more recently bank transfer....makes no odds to me as I don't pay tax anyway....😊👠|  | | |
| Taylor review ....Cash in hand on 07:41 - Jul 11 with 7121 views | RimmersBrace |
It's absolutely ridiculous the number of 'self employed' people in this country. They're not self employed and should pay their NI like anyone else. The burden of proof should be on the employer to show they are not employees not on HMRC and also the Government were correct to raise NI for contractors although I personally think merging NI and income tax would get round this problem. |  | | |
| Taylor review ....Cash in hand on 07:50 - Jul 11 with 7090 views | tcblue |
Wait, what? This thread started on VAT avoidance by sole traders who don't generally do enough turnover to have to charge VAT, now it's on NI avoidance by self employed? Is that even a thing? How do they dodge that? | | | |
| Taylor review ....Cash in hand on 07:52 - Jul 11 with 7086 views | Plums |
| Taylor review ....Cash in hand on 07:41 - Jul 11 by RimmersBrace |
It's absolutely ridiculous the number of 'self employed' people in this country. They're not self employed and should pay their NI like anyone else. The burden of proof should be on the employer to show they are not employees not on HMRC and also the Government were correct to raise NI for contractors although I personally think merging NI and income tax would get round this problem. |
Why pick on contractors? If they wanted to do this properly, the government should have ensured all U.K. company directors pay NI but of course that would be politically explosive so they (as usual) picked on the little fella. |  |
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| Taylor review ....Cash in hand on 07:54 - Jul 11 with 7077 views | tcblue |
| Taylor review ....Cash in hand on 07:52 - Jul 11 by Plums |
Why pick on contractors? If they wanted to do this properly, the government should have ensured all U.K. company directors pay NI but of course that would be politically explosive so they (as usual) picked on the little fella. |
And the depressing thing is, people swallow the hook every time | | | |
| Taylor review ....Cash in hand on 08:14 - Jul 11 with 7030 views | itfcjoe |
Maybe they should try and get corporation tax off the big companies rather than worry that a window cleaner is getting a little bit of cash in hand for a low paid job - most of which will be spent back in the local community.
We had an invoice paid in cash the other day - an absolute pain as costs loads to pay it in so will have to use it for credit cards etc over then next few months until it dwindles away. |  |
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| Taylor review ....Cash in hand on 08:15 - Jul 11 with 7023 views | Plums |
| Taylor review ....Cash in hand on 07:54 - Jul 11 by tcblue |
And the depressing thing is, people swallow the hook every time |
'Depressing'? I'd seek help if it affects you that much | |
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| Taylor review ....Cash in hand on 08:29 - Jul 11 with 6986 views | tcblue |
| Taylor review ....Cash in hand on 08:15 - Jul 11 by Plums |
'Depressing'? I'd seek help if it affects you that much |
Okay, cheers doc | | | |
| Taylor review ....Cash in hand on 09:02 - Jul 11 with 6930 views | No9 |
| Taylor review ....Cash in hand on 07:41 - Jul 11 by RimmersBrace |
It's absolutely ridiculous the number of 'self employed' people in this country. They're not self employed and should pay their NI like anyone else. The burden of proof should be on the employer to show they are not employees not on HMRC and also the Government were correct to raise NI for contractors although I personally think merging NI and income tax would get round this problem. |
You are forgetting that what you criticise has been tory policy since 2010 to get 'unemploynment' down & enable them to boast that we have record numbers of people employed. This is number fiddling but it has served its purpose to make headlines for the mail Telegraph etc.
The employer doesn't want to have 'employees' and takes advantage of the tories 'flexible' employment policies so as to NOT pay decent wages or N.I.
The irony is that the tory governemtn of the 80's tried a lot of things to prevent what is happening now - but they failed when people stopped being self employed and became one man Ltd Co's | | | |
| Taylor review ....Cash in hand on 09:09 - Jul 11 with 6916 views | chicoazul |
I imagine the cash in hand economy keeps a lot of families afloat. But of course what this is really about is the Govt having yet more tracking over your life. |  |
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| Taylor review ....Cash in hand on 09:20 - Jul 11 with 6890 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Taylor review ....Cash in hand on 07:29 - Jul 11 by witchdoctor |
I'm a window cleaner and get paid by various methods...cash...cheque and more recently bank transfer....makes no odds to me as I don't pay tax anyway....😊👠|
Syphon it all off into an offshore account eh? You're the Marcus Evans of the window cleaning world  |  |
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| Taylor review ....Cash in hand on 09:34 - Jul 11 with 6859 views | hoppy |
| Taylor review ....Cash in hand on 09:20 - Jul 11 by Swansea_Blue |
Syphon it all off into an offshore account eh? You're the Marcus Evans of the window cleaning world |
I think he just needs to be a bit more transparent. |  |
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| Taylor review ....Cash in hand on 10:17 - Jul 11 with 6806 views | Bent_double |
| Taylor review ....Cash in hand on 07:41 - Jul 11 by RimmersBrace |
It's absolutely ridiculous the number of 'self employed' people in this country. They're not self employed and should pay their NI like anyone else. The burden of proof should be on the employer to show they are not employees not on HMRC and also the Government were correct to raise NI for contractors although I personally think merging NI and income tax would get round this problem. |
Why do you assume that self employed people don't pay NI? There's just a different 'class' of NI to pay, and if at the end of the year there's additional tax and NI to pay, you pay it, just like anyone else. |  |
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| Taylor review ....Cash in hand on 10:20 - Jul 11 with 6802 views | StokieBlue |
Rebecca Long-Bailey (shadow business secretary) has today said it's "morally wrong" to use Uber.
Seems to be a phrase being used a lot in the last day or two.
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| Taylor review ....Cash in hand on 10:20 - Jul 11 with 6801 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Taylor review ....Cash in hand on 09:34 - Jul 11 by hoppy |
I think he just needs to be a bit more transparent. |
You need to polish some of your jokes | |
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| Taylor review ....Cash in hand on 10:51 - Jul 11 with 6762 views | 26_Paz |
| Taylor review ....Cash in hand on 10:20 - Jul 11 by StokieBlue |
Rebecca Long-Bailey (shadow business secretary) has today said it's "morally wrong" to use Uber.
Seems to be a phrase being used a lot in the last day or two.
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In that case she is an idiot. With statements like this it surprises me that Labour are managing to do so well at presenting themselves as in touch and down with the kids. They're a bunch of self-righteous, well healed, radical champagne socialists. they're all loaded so paying double the price of an Uber for a black cab means nothing to them. they have no thought to the working man who may not be able to afford to worry about whether using Uber is 'morally wrong'. |  |
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| Taylor review ....Cash in hand on 11:12 - Jul 11 with 6734 views | No9 |
| Taylor review ....Cash in hand on 09:09 - Jul 11 by chicoazul |
I imagine the cash in hand economy keeps a lot of families afloat. But of course what this is really about is the Govt having yet more tracking over your life. |
According to the Land Registry 2016 was a racord year for Cash transactions in house selling / buying which only goes to prove the black economy is alive and kicking | | | |
| Taylor review ....Cash in hand on 11:15 - Jul 11 with 6732 views | chicoazul |
| Taylor review ....Cash in hand on 11:12 - Jul 11 by No9 |
According to the Land Registry 2016 was a racord year for Cash transactions in house selling / buying which only goes to prove the black economy is alive and kicking |
Well to be fair the kind of people who buy houses or land for cash are not the people I am talking about, it was more the plumbers sparkies chippies and gardeners who take cash and fly under the radar. | |
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| Taylor review ....Cash in hand on 11:16 - Jul 11 with 6730 views | hoppy |
| Taylor review ....Cash in hand on 10:20 - Jul 11 by Swansea_Blue |
You need to polish some of your jokes |
Really? I thought some of them were different glass... | |
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| Taylor review ....Cash in hand on 11:17 - Jul 11 with 6721 views | 26_Paz |
| Taylor review ....Cash in hand on 11:15 - Jul 11 by chicoazul |
Well to be fair the kind of people who buy houses or land for cash are not the people I am talking about, it was more the plumbers sparkies chippies and gardeners who take cash and fly under the radar. |
I got a great deal on some decorating work for cash, it was about 20% cheaper than my other quotes ... | |
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| Taylor review ....Cash in hand on 11:18 - Jul 11 with 6720 views | chicoazul |
| Taylor review ....Cash in hand on 10:51 - Jul 11 by 26_Paz |
In that case she is an idiot. With statements like this it surprises me that Labour are managing to do so well at presenting themselves as in touch and down with the kids. They're a bunch of self-righteous, well healed, radical champagne socialists. they're all loaded so paying double the price of an Uber for a black cab means nothing to them. they have no thought to the working man who may not be able to afford to worry about whether using Uber is 'morally wrong'. |
Champagne Socialist is such a stupid phrase if you think about it for more than 2 seconds. What are you saying here, that people are voting for and encouraging political policies that wont benefit them directly because they are well off? How silly of them!!11!!!! | |
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| Taylor review ....Cash in hand on 11:23 - Jul 11 with 6700 views | 26_Paz |
| Taylor review ....Cash in hand on 11:18 - Jul 11 by chicoazul |
Champagne Socialist is such a stupid phrase if you think about it for more than 2 seconds. What are you saying here, that people are voting for and encouraging political policies that wont benefit them directly because they are well off? How silly of them!!11!!!! |
Just saying they are loaded so don't understand working people. Just like to be seen as left wing so they can be all self righteous and think they are better than everyone else. | |
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| Taylor review ....Cash in hand on 11:25 - Jul 11 with 6690 views | No9 |
| Taylor review ....Cash in hand on 11:15 - Jul 11 by chicoazul |
Well to be fair the kind of people who buy houses or land for cash are not the people I am talking about, it was more the plumbers sparkies chippies and gardeners who take cash and fly under the radar. |
There are a lot of 'builders' who cheat the VAT man.
Many who used to be firms have split and now work as one man bands (Altogether) to keep below the VAT threshold. Some even have several businesses so they can work and not charge VAT
They give you a number to go to the merchants so they don't have to charge for materials either.
Some even work up to the VAT threshold then go off on holiday
It's all happening which is why getting a reliable builder is more difficult than ever | | | |
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