| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 15:45 - Jan 5 with 2323 views | chicoazul |
5 loans in the team next league game? |  |
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| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 15:50 - Jan 5 with 2249 views | Jon_456 |
| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 15:45 - Jan 5 by chicoazul |
5 loans in the team next league game? |
Burnley had 6 players on season long loans last year, didn’t seem to do them any harm.. |  | | |
| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 15:51 - Jan 5 with 2240 views | kizaitfc |
| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 15:45 - Jan 5 by chicoazul |
5 loans in the team next league game? |
I'd expect one more loan and a permanent signing to come.
Probably both be strikers!
Then we may wait and see if any improvement can be made in the CB areas, a CB that can cover at LB would be ideal.
Given our current restrictions under FFP dont think we should expect anything extraordinary. | |
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| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 15:52 - Jan 5 with 2233 views | PhilTWTD |
| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 15:51 - Jan 5 by kizaitfc |
I'd expect one more loan and a permanent signing to come.
Probably both be strikers!
Then we may wait and see if any improvement can be made in the CB areas, a CB that can cover at LB would be ideal.
Given our current restrictions under FFP dont think we should expect anything extraordinary. |
Me too. Kieran did outline the thinking behind loans and why he's more open to them now than last season a few weeks ago.
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| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 15:52 - Jan 5 with 2207 views | BiGDonnie |
| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 15:45 - Jan 5 by chicoazul |
5 loans in the team next league game? |
You're proper pushing Dimley for that number one goon spot ain't ya. |  |
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| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 15:57 - Jan 5 with 2145 views | kizaitfc |
| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 15:50 - Jan 5 by Jon_456 |
Burnley had 6 players on season long loans last year, didn’t seem to do them any harm.. |
Exactly this, most teams in the championship have 2 attacking players that are loans, we may well end up with three but that is mainly down to unfortunate injury to Hirst.
I think with the likes of Williams and now Travis these were loans with a view to potentially buy, I dont think Williams has done enough considering the wages he would probably demand. But I do hope Travis will come good over the coming months and we will make his move permanent in the summer. If not bar some wages nothing lost. | |
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| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 16:27 - Jan 5 with 1977 views | Vaughan8 |
| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 15:50 - Jan 5 by Jon_456 |
Burnley had 6 players on season long loans last year, didn’t seem to do them any harm.. |
I'm sure you could go back to July this year and ther wwould be plenty of people saying "not loans".
However, prsonally never had any issue with loans as long they improved the squad (i.e. Fraser, Lawrence years ago).
Its when you get loans for the sake of it, who nare no better than our own players, it seems a bit counter productive.
We are under a very good regime at the moment so I trust their recruitment. They haven't got many wrong. | | | |
| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 16:29 - Jan 5 with 1957 views | chicoazul |
| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 15:52 - Jan 5 by BiGDonnie |
You're proper pushing Dimley for that number one goon spot ain't ya. |
I’m just saying. Time is a flat circle. | |
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| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 16:36 - Jan 5 with 1913 views | Illinoisblue |
| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 15:52 - Jan 5 by PhilTWTD |
Me too. Kieran did outline the thinking behind loans and why he's more open to them now than last season a few weeks ago.
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Exactly. And with 20 games remaining we are very firmly in means justifying the end territory. |  |
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| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 16:46 - Jan 5 with 1857 views | chicoazul |
| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 16:36 - Jan 5 by Illinoisblue |
Exactly. And with 20 games remaining we are very firmly in means justifying the end territory. |
Are we though? It was our own players who got us to this point largely. If we do go up with for eg 4 key loans and can’t afford to buy those players we’ll probably just bounce back down again. | |
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| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 16:47 - Jan 5 with 1840 views | Parky |
| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 15:52 - Jan 5 by PhilTWTD |
Me too. Kieran did outline the thinking behind loans and why he's more open to them now than last season a few weeks ago.
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Are we in the running for Kieffer Moore, Phil? | | | |
| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 16:49 - Jan 5 with 1829 views | Illinoisblue |
| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 16:46 - Jan 5 by chicoazul |
Are we though? It was our own players who got us to this point largely. If we do go up with for eg 4 key loans and can’t afford to buy those players we’ll probably just bounce back down again. |
You’re framing going up as a problem. | |
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| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 16:51 - Jan 5 with 1815 views | DropCliffsNotBombs |
| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 16:46 - Jan 5 by chicoazul |
Are we though? It was our own players who got us to this point largely. If we do go up with for eg 4 key loans and can’t afford to buy those players we’ll probably just bounce back down again. |
I mean, it's sh!t, but you have tried really, really hard. |  | | |
| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 16:53 - Jan 5 with 1773 views | Herbivore |
| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 16:46 - Jan 5 by chicoazul |
Are we though? It was our own players who got us to this point largely. If we do go up with for eg 4 key loans and can’t afford to buy those players we’ll probably just bounce back down again. |
Our own players managed 100+ points form over the first half of the season. I don't think we need to worry too much, the loans are here to add some quality and depth to the squad. [Post edited 5 Jan 16:54]
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| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 16:59 - Jan 5 with 1717 views | chicoazul |
| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 16:49 - Jan 5 by Illinoisblue |
You’re framing going up as a problem. |
Well it will be won’t it. A good problem to have. | |
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| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 17:00 - Jan 5 with 1710 views | homer_123 |
| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 16:46 - Jan 5 by chicoazul |
Are we though? It was our own players who got us to this point largely. If we do go up with for eg 4 key loans and can’t afford to buy those players we’ll probably just bounce back down again. |
You suggesting we couldn't afford Travis? |  |
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| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 17:04 - Jan 5 with 1678 views | Nutkins_Return |
| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 16:46 - Jan 5 by chicoazul |
Are we though? It was our own players who got us to this point largely. If we do go up with for eg 4 key loans and can’t afford to buy those players we’ll probably just bounce back down again. |
Hirst was pretty essential to us going up. I'd argue without Hirst we may well have been 3 points worse off. So that argument takes care of itself.
For the others if we go up:
- Travis we could easily buy
- Williams we could easily buy/take free
- Sarmiento - option to take for a further 12 months (suspect we could buy if needed).
- Hutchinson - suspect we could buy. Can't see him getting much game time at Chelsea. Almost certainly another season long loan.
So can't see the issue with these. | | | |
| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 17:04 - Jan 5 with 1677 views | PhilTWTD |
| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 16:46 - Jan 5 by chicoazul |
Are we though? It was our own players who got us to this point largely. If we do go up with for eg 4 key loans and can’t afford to buy those players we’ll probably just bounce back down again. |
Being totally realistic, bearing in mind most of our squad were playing in League One last season, we'll have to do an awful lot of strengthening in the summer anyway if we go up.
As Kieran says, we're limited by FFP in what we can do and we can attract better players from the loan market - more the Sarmiento model than Travis - than we might be able to afford if we were getting them permanently. | | | |
| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 17:12 - Jan 5 with 1616 views | ITFCBlues |
| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 16:46 - Jan 5 by chicoazul |
Are we though? It was our own players who got us to this point largely. If we do go up with for eg 4 key loans and can’t afford to buy those players we’ll probably just bounce back down again. |
And we will have 100m in the bank and 50m parachute payments - boohoo |  |
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| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 17:21 - Jan 5 with 1576 views | ChampionsofInnsbruck |
| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 15:50 - Jan 5 by Jon_456 |
Burnley had 6 players on season long loans last year, didn’t seem to do them any harm.. |
It also ensures that we can offload and maintain our budget if we fail to achieve promotion. |  | | |
| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 17:28 - Jan 5 with 1532 views | Churchman |
| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 16:46 - Jan 5 by chicoazul |
Are we though? It was our own players who got us to this point largely. If we do go up with for eg 4 key loans and can’t afford to buy those players we’ll probably just bounce back down again. |
Hirst was a loanee this time last year. Luongo was here for the remainder of the season.
Personally I neither like or approve of the loan system but it exists, so we may as well try and use it to our advantage. |  | | |
| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 17:36 - Jan 5 with 1489 views | giant_stow |
| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 17:12 - Jan 5 by ITFCBlues |
And we will have 100m in the bank and 50m parachute payments - boohoo |
Alot of that of that will go on player contract bonus innit? Then you'll have to pay the new signings proper prem money - maybe leaves £20-£30m to spend? That'll buy you Josh Sargent.
Edit: not that I'm bitter!
Edit 2: or jealous.
Edit 3: honest. [Post edited 5 Jan 17:37]
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| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 17:59 - Jan 5 with 1395 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 17:36 - Jan 5 by giant_stow |
Alot of that of that will go on player contract bonus innit? Then you'll have to pay the new signings proper prem money - maybe leaves £20-£30m to spend? That'll buy you Josh Sargent.
Edit: not that I'm bitter!
Edit 2: or jealous.
Edit 3: honest. [Post edited 5 Jan 17:37]
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I suspect there will be a bit more wriggle room than that. Forest spent nearly £200m on transfers upon promotion. | | | |
| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 18:03 - Jan 5 with 1378 views | ITFCBlues |
| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 17:59 - Jan 5 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
I suspect there will be a bit more wriggle room than that. Forest spent nearly £200m on transfers upon promotion. |
Yeah but they'd have been in a mess with relegation you'd have thought.
I doubt we'd spend big, more like Luton this year but it helps to build the club | |
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| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 18:05 - Jan 5 with 1368 views | TheBoyBlue |
| Well done on the scoop, Phil. on 16:46 - Jan 5 by chicoazul |
Are we though? It was our own players who got us to this point largely. If we do go up with for eg 4 key loans and can’t afford to buy those players we’ll probably just bounce back down again. |
I'm happy with that. Get promoted, get on the gravy train, even if we come down we'll have money to buy our way back up. I'm confident that whatever happens, Ashton and co will spend any money that comes our way wisely. | |
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