| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? 14:30 - Dec 28 with 2562 views | nodge_blue |
I know he couldn't do the physical stuff or win headers, but the lad is a striker type player. If he plays off the defenders shoulder looking to dart in behind like a Billy Sharp type of striker?
We then leave Harness on the left.....
Just a thought Kieron.
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| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? on 14:33 - Dec 28 with 2031 views | nrb1985 |
Chaplin as a false 9 would get my vote.
Freddie and KJ been two excellent servants for the club but we cannot rely on them for any period of time in this division.
Ladapo in particular looks hopelessly out of his depth. Not a slight on him given it’s a dramatic step up from league one. |  | | |
| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? on 14:38 - Dec 28 with 1999 views | nodge_blue |
| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? on 14:33 - Dec 28 by nrb1985 |
Chaplin as a false 9 would get my vote.
Freddie and KJ been two excellent servants for the club but we cannot rely on them for any period of time in this division.
Ladapo in particular looks hopelessly out of his depth. Not a slight on him given it’s a dramatic step up from league one. |
I think thats another option. He also was a striker earlier on i believe.
You could play him there and push taylor into his position maybe.
Think id still prefer broadhead but id be keen to at least see one of those given a chance there. | |
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| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? on 14:41 - Dec 28 with 1971 views | LeoMuff |
Should be Ladapo, unless there is a reason his game time is limited, eg a move is agreed. No one else bring the attributes that Hirst does, only Ladapo is similar. |  |
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| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? on 14:43 - Dec 28 with 1961 views | StokieBlue |
| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? on 14:33 - Dec 28 by nrb1985 |
Chaplin as a false 9 would get my vote.
Freddie and KJ been two excellent servants for the club but we cannot rely on them for any period of time in this division.
Ladapo in particular looks hopelessly out of his depth. Not a slight on him given it’s a dramatic step up from league one. |
I would think we are more likely to play Broadhead through the middle than Chaplin as a false 9 - I don't think it's a particularly good idea to start messing with formations we've used for 100 games or so.
It'll probably be Jackson but Broadhead would be an option.
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| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? on 14:45 - Dec 28 with 1941 views | suffolkpoker |
No mate, sounds crap. As bad as suggesting Clarke to be striker |  |
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| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? on 14:46 - Dec 28 with 1922 views | billlm |
| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? on 14:33 - Dec 28 by nrb1985 |
Chaplin as a false 9 would get my vote.
Freddie and KJ been two excellent servants for the club but we cannot rely on them for any period of time in this division.
Ladapo in particular looks hopelessly out of his depth. Not a slight on him given it’s a dramatic step up from league one. |
Said Tuesday Chaplin should have gone up top and broadhead come on, McK isn't that brave and won't change from a runaround up top which has served us well,
This is going to hurt us, |  | | |
| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? on 14:48 - Dec 28 with 1915 views | SheffordBlue |
The challenge with doing anything like that is that there isn't really enough time on the training ground with the current run of games to try anything different. Possibly after the Stoke game when we have a bit more of a breather it might happen. | |
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| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? on 14:49 - Dec 28 with 1893 views | StokieBlue |
| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? on 14:45 - Dec 28 by suffolkpoker |
No mate, sounds crap. As bad as suggesting Clarke to be striker |
Why?
He's played as a CF at other clubs during his career.
It'll be Jackson though and that's fine - he did well against Leicester.
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| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? on 14:53 - Dec 28 with 1849 views | Guthrum |
| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? on 14:41 - Dec 28 by LeoMuff |
Should be Ladapo, unless there is a reason his game time is limited, eg a move is agreed. No one else bring the attributes that Hirst does, only Ladapo is similar. |
Indeed. Or Jackson.
Quite apart from the fact that Broadhead is missing the goal a lot at the moment. The extra pressure of being designated striker is not going to help with that. |  |
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| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? on 14:54 - Dec 28 with 1849 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Broadhead is an excellent player with a good number of goals to his name but I have found his finishing has been a problem in our last 3 matches. Most of our really good chances have fallen to him but he has only taken one of them. He is getting into those positions from the role he is playing. As you say, he wouldn't be a direct replacement for Hirst and I wouldn't like to see it. I think Ladapo will get the nod and Jackson to replace (albeit he being a different option). Aluko is another possibility. I don't suppose there is anyone like Taylor who might have played it at some point? |  |
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| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? on 14:56 - Dec 28 with 1820 views | suffolkpoker |
| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? on 14:49 - Dec 28 by StokieBlue |
Why?
He's played as a CF at other clubs during his career.
It'll be Jackson though and that's fine - he did well against Leicester.
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Because he doesn’t have the attributes for a lone striker that KM likes.
Jackson looks good at the moment and sufficient back up until the window opens | |
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| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? on 14:58 - Dec 28 with 1794 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? on 14:56 - Dec 28 by suffolkpoker |
Because he doesn’t have the attributes for a lone striker that KM likes.
Jackson looks good at the moment and sufficient back up until the window opens |
Jackson is dogsh!t in that role I am afraid. | | | |
| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? on 15:04 - Dec 28 with 1762 views | ITFCBlues |
| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? on 14:33 - Dec 28 by nrb1985 |
Chaplin as a false 9 would get my vote.
Freddie and KJ been two excellent servants for the club but we cannot rely on them for any period of time in this division.
Ladapo in particular looks hopelessly out of his depth. Not a slight on him given it’s a dramatic step up from league one. |
yeah, let's just change the whole tactical setup & all the patterns of play the players have drilled into them that's made us so good the last 12 months & play Chaplin as a false 9. |  |
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| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? on 15:05 - Dec 28 with 1749 views | ITFCBlues |
| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? on 14:58 - Dec 28 by tractorboy1978 |
Jackson is dogsh!t in that role I am afraid. |
Was fine earlier in the season against Leeds & then Leicester the other night...
Not like we have many other options really is it... | |
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| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? on 15:15 - Dec 28 with 1711 views | nodge_blue |
| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? on 14:48 - Dec 28 by SheffordBlue |
The challenge with doing anything like that is that there isn't really enough time on the training ground with the current run of games to try anything different. Possibly after the Stoke game when we have a bit more of a breather it might happen. |
That's almost certainly true. Kieron isn't the sort of manager to do something without seeing it in training for quite a while and getting it well drilled. Probably unlikely in the next couple of games.
But if we don't secure a new striker early on in the window I just cant see that Jackson or Ladapo are going to have enough about them at a critical part of the season. | |
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| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? on 15:17 - Dec 28 with 1687 views | jayessess |
| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? on 14:46 - Dec 28 by billlm |
Said Tuesday Chaplin should have gone up top and broadhead come on, McK isn't that brave and won't change from a runaround up top which has served us well,
This is going to hurt us, |
Think it's obvious that McKenna prefers to maintain our patterns of play, trusting the squad players to step up and do the job they've been trained to do, rather than get too outlandish with moving players out of their preferred position.
Which is as it should be. Nobody doubts that Harness and Hutchinson are pound for pound better quality footballers than Ladapo and Jackson, but we haven't got to second because we have the best 25 players in the division, we've got there because of what we do collectively. [Post edited 28 Dec 2023 15:23]
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| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? on 15:21 - Dec 28 with 1658 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? on 15:05 - Dec 28 by ITFCBlues |
Was fine earlier in the season against Leeds & then Leicester the other night...
Not like we have many other options really is it... |
I thought he was dreadful against Leicester. We got through that game with our patterns of play in spite of him rather than because of him. He presses well and works hard but just has no technical quality whatsoever when it comes to hold up, link up, bringing others into play etc. | | | |
| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? on 15:30 - Dec 28 with 1618 views | Bluedandy |
| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? on 15:05 - Dec 28 by ITFCBlues |
Was fine earlier in the season against Leeds & then Leicester the other night...
Not like we have many other options really is it... |
Ladapo is a much better option in that role ... Jackson is not the answer even in the short term. | | | |
| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? on 15:30 - Dec 28 with 1616 views | jayessess |
| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? on 15:21 - Dec 28 by tractorboy1978 |
I thought he was dreadful against Leicester. We got through that game with our patterns of play in spite of him rather than because of him. He presses well and works hard but just has no technical quality whatsoever when it comes to hold up, link up, bringing others into play etc. |
Having the striker "press well and work hard" isn't incidental to our game plan. The number of times we forced Leicester to turn the ball over, often well inside their own half, wasn't "in spite" of Jacko, he was a big part of it. | |
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| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? on 15:34 - Dec 28 with 1593 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? on 15:30 - Dec 28 by jayessess |
Having the striker "press well and work hard" isn't incidental to our game plan. The number of times we forced Leicester to turn the ball over, often well inside their own half, wasn't "in spite" of Jacko, he was a big part of it. |
Pointless for me though, if you lose the ball almost every time it goes into you. | | | |
| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? on 15:37 - Dec 28 with 1580 views | SheffordBlue |
| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? on 15:34 - Dec 28 by tractorboy1978 |
Pointless for me though, if you lose the ball almost every time it goes into you. |
Hirst's mis-controlled rate per 90 is actually worse than Jackson's although some of that is down to Jackson playing most of his minutes out wide I think. | |
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| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? on 15:46 - Dec 28 with 1536 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? on 15:37 - Dec 28 by SheffordBlue |
Hirst's mis-controlled rate per 90 is actually worse than Jackson's although some of that is down to Jackson playing most of his minutes out wide I think. |
Yeah I'd imagine that's because Hirst is having to take balls on his chest or zinged into him with a defender right up his backside, whereas Jackson has predominantly been ball into feet out wide.
I suspect Ladapo will start tomorrow. Although I'd be tempted to play Broadhead through the middle and have a more fluid front 3. He played for Sunderland predominantly as a number 9 pretty effectively. Maybe a case for Jackson away from home but in a home game where we will dominate the possession, that makes no sense to me as he can't handle the ball into his feet or link play well enough. | | | |
| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? on 15:48 - Dec 28 with 1513 views | SheffordBlue |
| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? on 15:46 - Dec 28 by tractorboy1978 |
Yeah I'd imagine that's because Hirst is having to take balls on his chest or zinged into him with a defender right up his backside, whereas Jackson has predominantly been ball into feet out wide.
I suspect Ladapo will start tomorrow. Although I'd be tempted to play Broadhead through the middle and have a more fluid front 3. He played for Sunderland predominantly as a number 9 pretty effectively. Maybe a case for Jackson away from home but in a home game where we will dominate the possession, that makes no sense to me as he can't handle the ball into his feet or link play well enough. |
I agree with you that Ladapo is likely to start as the 9 tomorrow. Not enough time to mess about the system so need to go with what the players know and have trained for. Any tinkering will come after Stoke I think. | |
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| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? on 16:01 - Dec 28 with 1468 views | billlm |
| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? on 15:17 - Dec 28 by jayessess |
Think it's obvious that McKenna prefers to maintain our patterns of play, trusting the squad players to step up and do the job they've been trained to do, rather than get too outlandish with moving players out of their preferred position.
Which is as it should be. Nobody doubts that Harness and Hutchinson are pound for pound better quality footballers than Ladapo and Jackson, but we haven't got to second because we have the best 25 players in the division, we've got there because of what we do collectively. [Post edited 28 Dec 2023 15:23]
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| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? on 16:02 - Dec 28 with 1460 views | jayessess |
| Could we play Broadhead through the middle? on 15:34 - Dec 28 by tractorboy1978 |
Pointless for me though, if you lose the ball almost every time it goes into you. |
Pointless? It's like at least 50% of our (incredibly effective) game plan!
There's a reason why promoting Jackson to centre forward for tough games was one of the first decisions McKenna made. | |
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