| Even Bristol City fans are questioning their Ashton position.. 08:51 - Dec 11 with 6365 views | unstableblue |
… given our success and club health
https://www.otib.co.uk/topic/213244-the-office-uk-ipswich-town-edition/?do=findC
Focus starting to move to their chairman Lansdown
Of course many many still got the confirmation bias and hold him responsible, and you know Ashton may have dropped some clangers there given the environment.
I just think our org structure and the recruitment of McKenna and his coaching team has suited Ashton. His reign CEO is a roaring success by many measures.
I do agree with some cities posters that we will need to see our latest financial results to gauge some health of the Ashton project. But our on-field success will be helping the finances no end.
(Note - if you’re not interested in other clubs fans views please ignore this post)
[Post edited 11 Dec 2023 8:56]
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| Even Bristol City fans are questioning their Ashton position.. on 08:55 - Dec 11 with 4774 views | TractorCam |
But but but, I thought we had to "wait and see" |  |
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| Even Bristol City fans are questioning their Ashton position.. on 09:02 - Dec 11 with 4699 views | bournemouthblue |
Yes, the last suggestion I have heard from them is they are still picking up the pieces from Ashton in regards to FFP
I'm pretty sure they were spend friendly prior to Ashton without much success either though |  |
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| Even Bristol City fans are questioning their Ashton position.. on 09:02 - Dec 11 with 4711 views | SitfcB |
‘Jesus they’re deluded. They’re genuinely comparing George Hirst (24, striker, no goals in 40 at this level before this season), Connor Chaplin (26, average record mainly below this level), Luke Woolfenden (nearly 25, 3 games at this level) and Leif Davis (closest in age and experience, but basically one season in league one at 23) to a 19 year old who is the championship player of the year (Alex Scott)
I’ll have what they’re smoking’
Ho Ho F’king Ho. |  |
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| Even Bristol City fans are questioning their Ashton position.. on 09:03 - Dec 11 with 4697 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
Bristol City's arc seems to track the following narrative.
Stephen Lansdown floats Hargreaves Lansdown. Becomes cash rich, but still has most of his value tied up in HL stock.
Owns Bristol City. Brings in players like Webster.
A massive legal suit is launched against Hargreaves Lansdown over alleged misselling.
Lansdown realises that his wealth is under significant threat.
Purse strings are tightened.
Bristol City sell players like Webster.
Bristol City aren't as good anymore.
Not just the goalposts, but the whole pitch was moved from under Ashton. He was brought in for one project, which swiftly became a very different business model. [Post edited 11 Dec 2023 9:11]
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| Even Bristol City fans are questioning their Ashton position.. on 09:05 - Dec 11 with 4641 views | tractorboy1978 |
To quote HarryFromBath - "Owners relegate clubs". | | | |
| Even Bristol City fans are questioning their Ashton position.. on 09:08 - Dec 11 with 4587 views | WestStanderLaLaLa |
| Even Bristol City fans are questioning their Ashton position.. on 09:03 - Dec 11 by ArnoldMoorhen |
Bristol City's arc seems to track the following narrative.
Stephen Lansdown floats Hargreaves Lansdown. Becomes cash rich, but still has most of his value tied up in HL stock.
Owns Bristol City. Brings in players like Webster.
A massive legal suit is launched against Hargreaves Lansdown over alleged misselling.
Lansdown realises that his wealth is under significant threat.
Purse strings are tightened.
Bristol City sell players like Webster.
Bristol City aren't as good anymore.
Not just the goalposts, but the whole pitch was moved from under Ashton. He was brought in for one project, which swiftly became a very different business model. [Post edited 11 Dec 2023 9:11]
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Seemed incredible to me that they couldn’t understand that Ashton operated within the budget(s) set by the owner. |  |
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| Even Bristol City fans are questioning their Ashton position.. on 09:09 - Dec 11 with 4560 views | Herbivore |
| Even Bristol City fans are questioning their Ashton position.. on 09:02 - Dec 11 by SitfcB |
‘Jesus they’re deluded. They’re genuinely comparing George Hirst (24, striker, no goals in 40 at this level before this season), Connor Chaplin (26, average record mainly below this level), Luke Woolfenden (nearly 25, 3 games at this level) and Leif Davis (closest in age and experience, but basically one season in league one at 23) to a 19 year old who is the championship player of the year (Alex Scott)
I’ll have what they’re smoking’
Ho Ho F’king Ho. |
Where has anyone compared any of our players to Alex Scott? They're a weird bunch. |  |
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| Even Bristol City fans are questioning their Ashton position.. on 09:11 - Dec 11 with 4522 views | BiGDonnie |
Any idea why that berk fev doesn't post here anymore?
We're still waiting to see what's going to happen.
Possibly the saddest fanbase I've come across. |  |
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| Even Bristol City fans are questioning their Ashton position.. on 09:16 - Dec 11 with 4461 views | JackSted |
Wow, they really loathe us don't they? |  |
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| Even Bristol City fans are questioning their Ashton position.. on 09:22 - Dec 11 with 4417 views | Keno |
| Even Bristol City fans are questioning their Ashton position.. on 09:02 - Dec 11 by SitfcB |
‘Jesus they’re deluded. They’re genuinely comparing George Hirst (24, striker, no goals in 40 at this level before this season), Connor Chaplin (26, average record mainly below this level), Luke Woolfenden (nearly 25, 3 games at this level) and Leif Davis (closest in age and experience, but basically one season in league one at 23) to a 19 year old who is the championship player of the year (Alex Scott)
I’ll have what they’re smoking’
Ho Ho F’king Ho. |
Just remember people from Bristol are 'nearly welsh'
need I say more |  |
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| Even Bristol City fans are questioning their Ashton position.. on 09:23 - Dec 11 with 4404 views | bournemouthblue |
| Even Bristol City fans are questioning their Ashton position.. on 09:16 - Dec 11 by JackSted |
Wow, they really loathe us don't they? |
It's Ashton they particularly loathe due to some kind of fitness crisis which was supposedly his fault and now they are going down the FFP route
As said before, they have always spent pretty healthily without much success and that predates Ashton
He had no hand in their stadium redevelopment apparently but may have been involved in their new training ground
Both outlays there, are going to effect a club's spending power? | |
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| Even Bristol City fans are questioning their Ashton position.. on 09:24 - Dec 11 with 4392 views | SitfcB |
| Even Bristol City fans are questioning their Ashton position.. on 09:09 - Dec 11 by Herbivore |
Where has anyone compared any of our players to Alex Scott? They're a weird bunch. |
That comment was triggered by this thread but don’t think anyone was comparing anyone…
Bristol City sell Scott for £25m by ElderGrizzly 10 Aug 2023 14:00Is that Ashton’s fault/credit too? :)
Fees for average players are still bonkers then I see. Must make our owners sit up and take notice too if these are selling values for players in the Championship
https://twitter.com/fabrizioromano/status/1689609162215301120?s=46&t=RAAaMM68Y6HTizJH6iTUVg
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| Even Bristol City fans are questioning their Ashton position.. on 09:51 - Dec 11 with 4194 views | Ftnfwest |
| Even Bristol City fans are questioning their Ashton position.. on 09:16 - Dec 11 by JackSted |
Wow, they really loathe us don't they? |
Was just thinking that when reading some of the comments. Keener for Leeds and Southampton to go up which is pretty sobering.. |  | | |
| Even Bristol City fans are questioning their Ashton position.. on 10:27 - Dec 11 with 4019 views | nodge_blue |
They are actually very complimentary on KMc. Still think they miss the point that we are running to FFP rules. Albeit that might mean we would hit a season where we mustn't make a loss? But I think that would be balanced by a Davis type sale anyway.
They praise out position and run which is far play to them now. The points total now is ridiculous. We seem to have to do this the hard ay though. Like last year. It's going to be 90 plus points for automatics.
We all keep thinking there will be a drop off, don't we. Maybe we can do this though. Leeds and Leicester x2 games pretty crucial. Minimum of 4 points needed out of 9? Im optimistic that there will be one significant signing in the next window. Someone to give us that bit of an extra lift. |  |
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| Even Bristol City fans are questioning their Ashton position.. on 10:55 - Dec 11 with 3844 views | ElephantintheRoom |
Slightly unfair. Lansdown wasn’t prepared to fund the theory any longer so Ashton took the franchise elsewhere - O’Leary having identified that chancers using US pension money would have three years to make a killing
Bristol City have remained sustainable under Lansdown - while the carpetbaggers are burning through money at 100% more than income at Town. Having gone up a year behind schedule they are now eyeing the mirage of Prem money a year ahead of schedule.
Is it sustainable? Clearly not. Are supporters happy clearly yes - who cares if it is no longer anything much to do with Ipswich.
The problems will surface if the money tap is cut off when things go slightly (or very) pear-shaped. At least Bristol City have a chairman from Bristol who is interested in the club and Bristol and is probably funding the club with money saved by living in Guernsey. A hobby project.
What do Town have - a cabal of chancers financed by a pension fund that is seeking a financial return above market rate. Not many clubs in the Prem make any money - so the losses must surely be being funded to add value and find someone or some people who haven’t noticed that small clubs bs in the Prem quickly lose a big fortune. | |
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| Even Bristol City fans are questioning their Ashton position.. on 10:56 - Dec 11 with 3831 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Even Bristol City fans are questioning their Ashton position.. on 10:55 - Dec 11 by ElephantintheRoom |
Slightly unfair. Lansdown wasn’t prepared to fund the theory any longer so Ashton took the franchise elsewhere - O’Leary having identified that chancers using US pension money would have three years to make a killing
Bristol City have remained sustainable under Lansdown - while the carpetbaggers are burning through money at 100% more than income at Town. Having gone up a year behind schedule they are now eyeing the mirage of Prem money a year ahead of schedule.
Is it sustainable? Clearly not. Are supporters happy clearly yes - who cares if it is no longer anything much to do with Ipswich.
The problems will surface if the money tap is cut off when things go slightly (or very) pear-shaped. At least Bristol City have a chairman from Bristol who is interested in the club and Bristol and is probably funding the club with money saved by living in Guernsey. A hobby project.
What do Town have - a cabal of chancers financed by a pension fund that is seeking a financial return above market rate. Not many clubs in the Prem make any money - so the losses must surely be being funded to add value and find someone or some people who haven’t noticed that small clubs bs in the Prem quickly lose a big fortune. |
I have no idea how you haven't been banned yet. | | | |
| Even Bristol City fans are questioning their Ashton position.. on 10:58 - Dec 11 with 3815 views | TractorCam |
| Even Bristol City fans are questioning their Ashton position.. on 10:55 - Dec 11 by ElephantintheRoom |
Slightly unfair. Lansdown wasn’t prepared to fund the theory any longer so Ashton took the franchise elsewhere - O’Leary having identified that chancers using US pension money would have three years to make a killing
Bristol City have remained sustainable under Lansdown - while the carpetbaggers are burning through money at 100% more than income at Town. Having gone up a year behind schedule they are now eyeing the mirage of Prem money a year ahead of schedule.
Is it sustainable? Clearly not. Are supporters happy clearly yes - who cares if it is no longer anything much to do with Ipswich.
The problems will surface if the money tap is cut off when things go slightly (or very) pear-shaped. At least Bristol City have a chairman from Bristol who is interested in the club and Bristol and is probably funding the club with money saved by living in Guernsey. A hobby project.
What do Town have - a cabal of chancers financed by a pension fund that is seeking a financial return above market rate. Not many clubs in the Prem make any money - so the losses must surely be being funded to add value and find someone or some people who haven’t noticed that small clubs bs in the Prem quickly lose a big fortune. |
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| Even Bristol City fans are questioning their Ashton position.. on 11:00 - Dec 11 with 3800 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
Not exactly a knowledgeable bunch are they |  |
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| Even Bristol City fans are questioning their Ashton position.. on 11:00 - Dec 11 with 3796 views | BlueBadger |
| Even Bristol City fans are questioning their Ashton position.. on 10:55 - Dec 11 by ElephantintheRoom |
Slightly unfair. Lansdown wasn’t prepared to fund the theory any longer so Ashton took the franchise elsewhere - O’Leary having identified that chancers using US pension money would have three years to make a killing
Bristol City have remained sustainable under Lansdown - while the carpetbaggers are burning through money at 100% more than income at Town. Having gone up a year behind schedule they are now eyeing the mirage of Prem money a year ahead of schedule.
Is it sustainable? Clearly not. Are supporters happy clearly yes - who cares if it is no longer anything much to do with Ipswich.
The problems will surface if the money tap is cut off when things go slightly (or very) pear-shaped. At least Bristol City have a chairman from Bristol who is interested in the club and Bristol and is probably funding the club with money saved by living in Guernsey. A hobby project.
What do Town have - a cabal of chancers financed by a pension fund that is seeking a financial return above market rate. Not many clubs in the Prem make any money - so the losses must surely be being funded to add value and find someone or some people who haven’t noticed that small clubs bs in the Prem quickly lose a big fortune. |
Amazed that you've chosen to surface this week. I'd have thought you'd be more worried about us turning you lot over at Carrow Road this weekend, tbh. |  |
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| Even Bristol City fans are questioning their Ashton position.. on 11:07 - Dec 11 with 3748 views | farkenhell |
| Even Bristol City fans are questioning their Ashton position.. on 10:55 - Dec 11 by ElephantintheRoom |
Slightly unfair. Lansdown wasn’t prepared to fund the theory any longer so Ashton took the franchise elsewhere - O’Leary having identified that chancers using US pension money would have three years to make a killing
Bristol City have remained sustainable under Lansdown - while the carpetbaggers are burning through money at 100% more than income at Town. Having gone up a year behind schedule they are now eyeing the mirage of Prem money a year ahead of schedule.
Is it sustainable? Clearly not. Are supporters happy clearly yes - who cares if it is no longer anything much to do with Ipswich.
The problems will surface if the money tap is cut off when things go slightly (or very) pear-shaped. At least Bristol City have a chairman from Bristol who is interested in the club and Bristol and is probably funding the club with money saved by living in Guernsey. A hobby project.
What do Town have - a cabal of chancers financed by a pension fund that is seeking a financial return above market rate. Not many clubs in the Prem make any money - so the losses must surely be being funded to add value and find someone or some people who haven’t noticed that small clubs bs in the Prem quickly lose a big fortune. |
I haven't been able to work out whether or not you are a thinly-disguised budgie. Until now.
You are Davefevs aren't you? | | | |
| Even Bristol City fans are questioning their Ashton position.. on 11:09 - Dec 11 with 3731 views | farkenhell |
| Even Bristol City fans are questioning their Ashton position.. on 09:51 - Dec 11 by Ftnfwest |
Was just thinking that when reading some of the comments. Keener for Leeds and Southampton to go up which is pretty sobering.. |
Tbf, that seems to be just one poster. Cider something or other. Has clearly swallowed too much of the stuff. | | | |
| Even Bristol City fans are questioning their Ashton position.. on 11:19 - Dec 11 with 3667 views | BlueBadger |
| Even Bristol City fans are questioning their Ashton position.. on 09:02 - Dec 11 by SitfcB |
‘Jesus they’re deluded. They’re genuinely comparing George Hirst (24, striker, no goals in 40 at this level before this season), Connor Chaplin (26, average record mainly below this level), Luke Woolfenden (nearly 25, 3 games at this level) and Leif Davis (closest in age and experience, but basically one season in league one at 23) to a 19 year old who is the championship player of the year (Alex Scott)
I’ll have what they’re smoking’
Ho Ho F’king Ho. |
Cider and weed: just say 'no' kids. | |
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| Even Bristol City fans are questioning their Ashton position.. on 11:39 - Dec 11 with 3523 views | SheffordBlue |
| Even Bristol City fans are questioning their Ashton position.. on 09:03 - Dec 11 by ArnoldMoorhen |
Bristol City's arc seems to track the following narrative.
Stephen Lansdown floats Hargreaves Lansdown. Becomes cash rich, but still has most of his value tied up in HL stock.
Owns Bristol City. Brings in players like Webster.
A massive legal suit is launched against Hargreaves Lansdown over alleged misselling.
Lansdown realises that his wealth is under significant threat.
Purse strings are tightened.
Bristol City sell players like Webster.
Bristol City aren't as good anymore.
Not just the goalposts, but the whole pitch was moved from under Ashton. He was brought in for one project, which swiftly became a very different business model. [Post edited 11 Dec 2023 9:11]
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The player trading approach also took a massive hit during Covid. Player values crashed and some clubs financial strategies had to change. Player trading is a realistic strategy that comes with some risks - when those risks emerged Ashton took the flak for it. | |
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| Even Bristol City fans are questioning their Ashton position.. on 11:47 - Dec 11 with 3453 views | OldFart71 |
They really do have some weird views. But then I suppose most fans slag off other teams and maybe it's more wishing than any real sensible opinion on where another team might finish. I remember the comments last season where it was stated that Sheffield Wednesday would finish above us by a certain ex Budgie as he said we weren't strong enough. He got that badly wrong and look where they are now. Not blowing my own trumpet, but I did say we would be the best of those promoted. Still a way to go. As for Ashton I don't know what his agenda was at Bristol. At Town he states McKenna gives him targets for players. Then I presume Gamechanger are asked about how much there is to spend and it goes from there. Ashton has already stated he is well versed on the fair play rules, purchases will be made in January I would imagine based on where we stand in the promotion situation. | | | |
| Even Bristol City fans are questioning their Ashton position.. on 11:49 - Dec 11 with 3436 views | Illinoisblue |
| Even Bristol City fans are questioning their Ashton position.. on 10:55 - Dec 11 by ElephantintheRoom |
Slightly unfair. Lansdown wasn’t prepared to fund the theory any longer so Ashton took the franchise elsewhere - O’Leary having identified that chancers using US pension money would have three years to make a killing
Bristol City have remained sustainable under Lansdown - while the carpetbaggers are burning through money at 100% more than income at Town. Having gone up a year behind schedule they are now eyeing the mirage of Prem money a year ahead of schedule.
Is it sustainable? Clearly not. Are supporters happy clearly yes - who cares if it is no longer anything much to do with Ipswich.
The problems will surface if the money tap is cut off when things go slightly (or very) pear-shaped. At least Bristol City have a chairman from Bristol who is interested in the club and Bristol and is probably funding the club with money saved by living in Guernsey. A hobby project.
What do Town have - a cabal of chancers financed by a pension fund that is seeking a financial return above market rate. Not many clubs in the Prem make any money - so the losses must surely be being funded to add value and find someone or some people who haven’t noticed that small clubs bs in the Prem quickly lose a big fortune. |
Here he is. Edgy the Elephant. |  |
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