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How do we judge a footballing career? 08:43 - Dec 11 with 537 viewsRobTheMonk

After a recent thread about Kelvin Phillips, it got me thinking about footballing careers.

In a lot of job sectors, many people want to progress from a financial standpoint. A quick google suggests that Phillips is currently on 150k per week. However, from a footballing standpoint, you could suggest that his career has massively stalled at Man City (which sounds crazy considering they've been the best team in world football). He's in essence, a very expensive substitute that doesn't really get used much. Whereas when he was at Leeds, he was a crucial cog in the way they played.

But from a financial standpoint, he's got the best contract he's ever going to get bar some ridiculous Middle East offer. So he's done very, very well.

It depends on how you look at things. I think the majority of fans will look at it from a footballing acclaim side as people remember the good players rather than the good contracts (although there have been some right crazy ones!).

And that's not even taking into account individual performances, International games, community projects etc.

It comes around again to Jordan Henderson's Saudi move. Financially, the contract is ridiculous and set for life and then some. But now his reputation has been tarnished by the hypocrisy. Reuben Neves at least mentioned that the money was excellent (as well as the usual soundbite about it being a project).
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How do we judge a footballing career? on 09:05 - Dec 11 with 462 viewsunstableblue

You could turn this lens to Ipswich

Has Dom Ball and Edmundson had a good career at Ipswich?

I’d say they are essential squad members who probably huge value in training and in their limited appearances this season have done a good job.

They’ll be paid well. But their game time is limited.

As for Philips - for me it’s ridiculous, for a player of his quality to not being starting every other game at the very least, then it’s just not a good period in his career. I get that at City they have 2 even 3 high quality players for each position. Take Grealish, he’s also on the cusp of a poor period in his career despite the trophies. Compare to Spurs where their top 4 or 5 players start every week, same with Villa and Arsenal.

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How do we judge a footballing career? on 09:18 - Dec 11 with 412 viewsbournemouthblue

How do we judge a footballing career? on 09:05 - Dec 11 by unstableblue

You could turn this lens to Ipswich

Has Dom Ball and Edmundson had a good career at Ipswich?

I’d say they are essential squad members who probably huge value in training and in their limited appearances this season have done a good job.

They’ll be paid well. But their game time is limited.

As for Philips - for me it’s ridiculous, for a player of his quality to not being starting every other game at the very least, then it’s just not a good period in his career. I get that at City they have 2 even 3 high quality players for each position. Take Grealish, he’s also on the cusp of a poor period in his career despite the trophies. Compare to Spurs where their top 4 or 5 players start every week, same with Villa and Arsenal.


I wonder if all that rotation does have it's benefits in the long run because city have a habit of finishing like a house on fire, every single season

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