| Ashton/New stand 07:19 - May 3 with 11189 views | EssexBloo |
I might be reading too much into it but does anyone else find it strange that MA mentions this in every single interview now, unprompted last night as well. Is he trying to put pressure on owners to make that investment or pressure on council to allow it perhaps? |  | | |  |
| Ashton/New stand on 07:26 - May 3 with 6795 views | SenatorBlue |
I doubt owners; council more likely.
Use of land and as has been said in other threads and by Ashton greater value from joint ventures eg hotel, aqua complex. For this sort of stuff councils are typically not the fastest decision makers in history, and on a 2—3 year timeline (likely), that needs to be in place imminently. |  | | |
| Ashton/New stand on 07:32 - May 3 with 6722 views | EssexBloo |
| Ashton/New stand on 07:26 - May 3 by SenatorBlue |
I doubt owners; council more likely.
Use of land and as has been said in other threads and by Ashton greater value from joint ventures eg hotel, aqua complex. For this sort of stuff councils are typically not the fastest decision makers in history, and on a 2—3 year timeline (likely), that needs to be in place imminently. |
Yes that sounds likely. Hopefully he can speed up negotiations then as I think we would all like to see plans agreed sooner rather than later. | | | |
| Ashton/New stand on 07:37 - May 3 with 6670 views | RegencyBlue |
| Ashton/New stand on 07:32 - May 3 by EssexBloo |
Yes that sounds likely. Hopefully he can speed up negotiations then as I think we would all like to see plans agreed sooner rather than later. |
IBC would do well to grasp this potential opportunity with both hands.
People not exactly queuing up to invest in Ipswich! |  | | |
| Ashton/New stand on 07:52 - May 3 with 6556 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Ashton/New stand on 07:37 - May 3 by RegencyBlue |
IBC would do well to grasp this potential opportunity with both hands.
People not exactly queuing up to invest in Ipswich! |
Indeed, more people on matchdays can only be good for the town.
Appreciate things can change quickly in football and there could be a scenario where construction isn’t needed due to crowds tailing off, but as others say Council planning decisions take a long time. | | | |
| Ashton/New stand on 07:52 - May 3 with 6558 views | Deano69 |
| Ashton/New stand on 07:37 - May 3 by RegencyBlue |
IBC would do well to grasp this potential opportunity with both hands.
People not exactly queuing up to invest in Ipswich! |
Regrettably, foresight and building something useful and with longevity isn’t the way local government works around here. |  |
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| Ashton/New stand on 07:58 - May 3 with 6513 views | nrb1985 |
The owners will just want planning permission granted asap. I doubt they'll actually act on it for a long time/if at all but the planning permission being in place adds to the club's value in any potential sale.
Abramovich going through the various approvals etc for the new stamford bridge added considerable value to the club - I'm fairly convinced he never actually had any intention of building that new stadium though.
I'd wager that if we are established in the PL within the next 3-4 years that GC will likely sell up having realised around 5-10x on their investment, without the need or hassle to build a new stand. | | | |
| Ashton/New stand on 08:01 - May 3 with 6481 views | Metal_Hacker |
For the most I think it's MA bigging up the club when times are good and massaging everyne's egos right now and keep morale where it should be . Any potential purchases hearing these words will sit up and listen I'm sure
Can't say I fault him but I think the new stand would be a while away - council approval and stability in the Champ for me would be the ultimate - before going up to the Prem of course |  |
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| Ashton/New stand on 08:15 - May 3 with 6373 views | lurcher |
We should see plans for a new stand and the surrounding areas over the summer. He keeps mentioning it for the fans benefit, he is socialising the idea. There is going to be some upheaval. Fans in the Cobbold now may miss some games and fans in the lower Sir Alf will have to accept they will be moved into the new Cobbold to relocate the away fans. |  | | |
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| Ashton/New stand on 08:43 - May 3 with 6189 views | CityBlue |
The council wanted to utilise the Cattle Market for a new swimming/gym comlex but did not secure the funding required. Maybe a partnership with the club will see this become a reality? quid pro quo - new stand, reduced rates, new aqua gym faciilty |  |
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| Ashton/New stand on 09:02 - May 3 with 6048 views | HighgateBlue |
| Ashton/New stand on 07:58 - May 3 by nrb1985 |
The owners will just want planning permission granted asap. I doubt they'll actually act on it for a long time/if at all but the planning permission being in place adds to the club's value in any potential sale.
Abramovich going through the various approvals etc for the new stamford bridge added considerable value to the club - I'm fairly convinced he never actually had any intention of building that new stadium though.
I'd wager that if we are established in the PL within the next 3-4 years that GC will likely sell up having realised around 5-10x on their investment, without the need or hassle to build a new stand. |
Chelsea's transition following their mega sale does not fill me with hope for our post-Gamechanger days. Anyone with the biggest cheque book could get hold of the club. Don't wanna be Chelsea, don't wanna be Newcastle either.
I'll choose not to think of it, and just enjoy the ride for the time being! |  | | |
| Ashton/New stand on 09:07 - May 3 with 5970 views | dirtyboy |
| Ashton/New stand on 08:01 - May 3 by Metal_Hacker |
For the most I think it's MA bigging up the club when times are good and massaging everyne's egos right now and keep morale where it should be . Any potential purchases hearing these words will sit up and listen I'm sure
Can't say I fault him but I think the new stand would be a while away - council approval and stability in the Champ for me would be the ultimate - before going up to the Prem of course |
I broadly agree with this.
He's a good salesman and the 'project' is hugely exciting. Mentioning so many things gets people excited and when people are excited they want to be part of it. Investors, sponsors, they all want to jump on for a ride (rightly so).
You'd imagine next season, with TV money adding to the pot, our commercial income will be driven up substantially by being well run and momentum with us.
The hardest thing for GC and Ashton will be keeping it all together. |  | | |
| Ashton/New stand on 09:10 - May 3 with 5944 views | textbackup |
As mentioned on here previously, I think it’s a lot closer to happening than some think |  |
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| Ashton/New stand on 09:11 - May 3 with 5936 views | trncbluearmy |
| Ashton/New stand on 09:02 - May 3 by HighgateBlue |
Chelsea's transition following their mega sale does not fill me with hope for our post-Gamechanger days. Anyone with the biggest cheque book could get hold of the club. Don't wanna be Chelsea, don't wanna be Newcastle either.
I'll choose not to think of it, and just enjoy the ride for the time being! |
No need to worry
Pension funds need cash via dividends to pay out income without disturbing the underlying assets
When ITFC are in the prem. a healthy dividend will be paid to the pension fund, as will cash generated by infrastructure around the ground go the same way.
This is a long term investment,not subject to the whims of individuals. |  | | |
| Ashton/New stand on 09:21 - May 3 with 5794 views | nrb1985 |
| Ashton/New stand on 09:02 - May 3 by HighgateBlue |
Chelsea's transition following their mega sale does not fill me with hope for our post-Gamechanger days. Anyone with the biggest cheque book could get hold of the club. Don't wanna be Chelsea, don't wanna be Newcastle either.
I'll choose not to think of it, and just enjoy the ride for the time being! |
Well quite!
My point was simply that having that planning permission already in place added a lot of value to the club when he sold it. It was one of the big selling points in the prospectus they sent to potential suitors. As was the super league…so I doubt we’ve heard the last of that either. | | | |
| Ashton/New stand on 09:48 - May 3 with 5615 views | le2blue |
| Ashton/New stand on 09:10 - May 3 by textbackup |
As mentioned on here previously, I think it’s a lot closer to happening than some think |
Correct. |  | | |
| Ashton/New stand on 09:49 - May 3 with 5602 views | portmanking |
| Ashton/New stand on 09:48 - May 3 by le2blue |
Correct. |
Oooooh - how so? Planning permission underway? | | | |
| Ashton/New stand on 09:53 - May 3 with 5591 views | Guthrum |
| Ashton/New stand on 08:43 - May 3 by CityBlue |
The council wanted to utilise the Cattle Market for a new swimming/gym comlex but did not secure the funding required. Maybe a partnership with the club will see this become a reality? quid pro quo - new stand, reduced rates, new aqua gym faciilty |
That would fit with the Gamechanger concept of creating a leisure/shopping/entertainment hub to complement the football ground and increase returns (as per plans for Pawtucket FC). |  |
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| Ashton/New stand on 09:53 - May 3 with 5587 views | Bobbychase |
| Ashton/New stand on 07:37 - May 3 by RegencyBlue |
IBC would do well to grasp this potential opportunity with both hands.
People not exactly queuing up to invest in Ipswich! |
I was thinking that on Good Friday and also before and after the Exeter game, the town feels so different when the team is doing well. Pubs in particular must have been very happy with matchday receipts on Saturday.
Hopefully the negotiations with the council which are happening in the background go well, the town desperately needs an injection of money and new life. |  |
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| Ashton/New stand on 10:16 - May 3 with 5418 views | Guthrum |
| Ashton/New stand on 07:37 - May 3 by RegencyBlue |
IBC would do well to grasp this potential opportunity with both hands.
People not exactly queuing up to invest in Ipswich! |
Portman Road has the massive advantage that it is't on a trading estate on the outskirts, it's very close to the centre. So development there and in the surrounding area does not risk sucking all the life/shops out of the town itself.
While still being surrounded by quite a lot of under-utilised land. Not just the Cattle Market, but also the bit down by the river, towards the station.
In reality, it could be these factors which attracted Gamechanger as much as the situation of the football club itself. | |
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| Ashton/New stand on 10:22 - May 3 with 5366 views | SamWhiteUK |
When building a new stand to increase capacity, surely you're without some/all of that stand for a long time, massively reducing capacity? never seen it done, admittedly, so I might be wrong, but how do you time it correctly? |  | | |
| Ashton/New stand on 10:25 - May 3 with 5321 views | OldFart71 |
| Ashton/New stand on 07:58 - May 3 by nrb1985 |
The owners will just want planning permission granted asap. I doubt they'll actually act on it for a long time/if at all but the planning permission being in place adds to the club's value in any potential sale.
Abramovich going through the various approvals etc for the new stamford bridge added considerable value to the club - I'm fairly convinced he never actually had any intention of building that new stadium though.
I'd wager that if we are established in the PL within the next 3-4 years that GC will likely sell up having realised around 5-10x on their investment, without the need or hassle to build a new stand. |
It will take many millions to get the squad up to one that can sustain a place in the Prem. Added to that in order to achieve extra income it will be important that the club has a capacity of between 35-40,000. I know some will refer back to the Burley/Sheepshank days and say " Look what happened then" but cercumstances are totally different now. Parchute payments are there, MvKenna and co are unlikely to buy a Matteo Sereni or Finidi George and also whilst the developement of the Cobbold Stand would cost considerably more than the North and Churchmans did they will only be building one and not two new stands. Players will be sourced, brought on and if a replacement can be found and selling is worthwhile then that will happen. I think the Gamechanger boys will be here nearer to ten years than five although who knows. If the transition from Division One to Prem is quick and a couple of seasons of sustaining a place in that League then things could happen faster ? | | | |
| Ashton/New stand on 10:30 - May 3 with 5236 views | PhilTWTD |
| Ashton/New stand on 09:49 - May 3 by portmanking |
Oooooh - how so? Planning permission underway? |
If planning permission were under way then there would be a public record, as per the work on the West Stand. |  | | |
| Ashton/New stand on 10:44 - May 3 with 5086 views | Churchman |
| Ashton/New stand on 10:22 - May 3 by SamWhiteUK |
When building a new stand to increase capacity, surely you're without some/all of that stand for a long time, massively reducing capacity? never seen it done, admittedly, so I might be wrong, but how do you time it correctly? |
The West stand that replaced the Chicken Run was put up in a summer and ready in time for the new season. However the ends to the stand were added 74/75, but didn’t affect the capacity at the time.
I doubt it’s possible in the 21st century. Both the North Stands and Churchmans took about a season |  | | |
| Ashton/New stand on 10:47 - May 3 with 5038 views | portmanking |
| Ashton/New stand on 10:30 - May 3 by PhilTWTD |
If planning permission were under way then there would be a public record, as per the work on the West Stand. |
Sorry, I didn't necessarily mean formally submitted, more regarding works towards an application. | | | |
| Ashton/New stand on 10:48 - May 3 with 5022 views | nrb1985 |
| Ashton/New stand on 10:25 - May 3 by OldFart71 |
It will take many millions to get the squad up to one that can sustain a place in the Prem. Added to that in order to achieve extra income it will be important that the club has a capacity of between 35-40,000. I know some will refer back to the Burley/Sheepshank days and say " Look what happened then" but cercumstances are totally different now. Parchute payments are there, MvKenna and co are unlikely to buy a Matteo Sereni or Finidi George and also whilst the developement of the Cobbold Stand would cost considerably more than the North and Churchmans did they will only be building one and not two new stands. Players will be sourced, brought on and if a replacement can be found and selling is worthwhile then that will happen. I think the Gamechanger boys will be here nearer to ten years than five although who knows. If the transition from Division One to Prem is quick and a couple of seasons of sustaining a place in that League then things could happen faster ? |
7-10 years is the usual amount of time to you'd look to make a return in private equity/pension capital.
We could be up and an established PL team within that time frame if everything goes well - i.e. this time next year we're celebrating another promotion.
My point is simply, in the above scenario you could make a very healthy profit within 7 years and therefore why mess around building a new stand. | | | |
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