| I think we're forgetting slightly how much individual errors have costs us 13:13 - Sep 13 with 1905 views | Parmigiano |
First things first: the Bolton game was an abomination. The second half capitulation in particular was a disgrace.
But in the matches before that, we've dropped 8 points due to individual errors, not from absolutely woeful team performances:
Morecambe - Woolfenden howler (2 points dropped)
Burton - Fraser misses a penalty and then we give away a late penalty (3 points dropped)
Cheltenham - Bonne misses from 1 inch out to go 2-0 up (1 point dropped)
MK Dons - Evans howler (2 points dropped)
I would even argue in the Bolton game that, if KVY doesn't make a ridiculous challenge for their penalty and Bonne doesn't miss the target when unmarked from 10 yards out just before half-time, we go in 3-1 up rather than 2-3 down.
Of course we haven't gelled as quickly as we all hoped, and the midfield pair in particular need to learn their roles fast. But individual errors like the ones I've mentioned have nothing to do with a new team not gelling. Without these individual errors, we'd be on 11 points and just outside the play-off spots. |  | | |  |
| If my Auntie had balls.... on 13:18 - Sep 13 with 1862 views | Bloots |
....she'd be my uncle. |  |
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| If my Auntie had balls.... on 13:19 - Sep 13 with 1849 views | hype313 |
| If my Auntie had balls.... on 13:18 - Sep 13 by Bloots |
....she'd be my uncle. |
Don't tell me you're from Norfolk too. |  |
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| I think we're forgetting slightly how much individual errors have costs us on 13:22 - Sep 13 with 1822 views | SWGF |
How about the individual errors from our opposition that allowed us to score our goals? Can you take those into account and redo the league? |  |
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| I think we're forgetting slightly how much individual errors have costs us on 13:27 - Sep 13 with 1797 views | Dubtractor |
| I think we're forgetting slightly how much individual errors have costs us on 13:22 - Sep 13 by SWGF |
How about the individual errors from our opposition that allowed us to score our goals? Can you take those into account and redo the league? |
Take away the oggy, and their player falling over trying to challenge burns, and we score nil on Saturday.
Of course there have been errors, it's division 3 ffs.
The way we are setting the team up at the moment has massive issues, regardless of errors. |  |
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| I think we're forgetting slightly how much individual errors have costs us on 13:29 - Sep 13 with 1777 views | saffers12 |
would you accept as many mistakes from other paid professionals eg plumbers, joiners, doctors etc? |  | | |
| I think we're forgetting slightly how much individual errors have costs us on 13:41 - Sep 13 with 1739 views | textbackup |
but on Saturday is was a collective shtshow, errors all over, players like chaplin never really seeming to have/understand his role in the team. really really poor |  |
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| I think we're forgetting slightly how much individual errors have costs us on 14:14 - Sep 13 with 1637 views | Illinoisblue |
Wait, Is this supposed to make us feel better? |  |
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| Downvoted by "The Realist"..... on 14:16 - Sep 13 with 1627 views | Bloots |
| If my Auntie had balls.... on 13:18 - Sep 13 by Bloots |
....she'd be my uncle. |
....oh the irony. | |
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| Errors like appointing Hurst, appointing Lambert... on 14:23 - Sep 13 with 1594 views | BlueBadger |
...appointing a kitman instead of a coach..... |  |
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| Downvoted by "The Realist"..... on 14:24 - Sep 13 with 1594 views | BlueBadger |
| Downvoted by "The Realist"..... on 14:16 - Sep 13 by Bloots |
....oh the irony. |
He used to do a lot of that when people were pointing out that Lambert was crap, but people ignored it because he did good pressers and once bought them a warm, not-very-fizzy lager.
And beyond. when even Dollers had worked out that Lambert was crap. [Post edited 13 Sep 2021 14:28]
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| I think we're forgetting slightly how much individual errors have costs us on 14:25 - Sep 13 with 1587 views | jayessess |
You could tell a similar story about most football matches.
I think it's fair to say that prior to Saturday we could feel a little hard done by in terms of results. We'd had (marginally) more of the play and more of the chances in all 5 games we'd played and been punished heavily for every mistake with some unusually efficient opposition finishing. Being able to marginally outplay bottom half teams isn't anywhere near the standard we'll need to reach eventually, but yeah we probably merited more points.
Saturday was a team unravelling. |  |
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| I think we're forgetting slightly how much individual errors have costs us on 14:25 - Sep 13 with 1585 views | Swansea_Blue |
| I think we're forgetting slightly how much individual errors have costs us on 13:29 - Sep 13 by saffers12 |
would you accept as many mistakes from other paid professionals eg plumbers, joiners, doctors etc? |
Probably more. It must be even harder to track your winger when you've got a bag of spanners slung over your shoulder. |  |
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| I think we're forgetting slightly how much individual errors have costs us on 14:37 - Sep 13 with 1539 views | BlueBadger |
| I think we're forgetting slightly how much individual errors have costs us on 13:27 - Sep 13 by Dubtractor |
Take away the oggy, and their player falling over trying to challenge burns, and we score nil on Saturday.
Of course there have been errors, it's division 3 ffs.
The way we are setting the team up at the moment has massive issues, regardless of errors. |
This. It's not just 'individual errors' now, it's starting to look like 'inadequate coaching', particularly give that we've just had two weeks to work on ironing out basic, daft errors. | |
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| I think we're forgetting slightly how much individual errors have costs us on 15:05 - Sep 13 with 1441 views | mylittletown |
Bit of a so what?
Without 3 individual defensive errors, Leeds would have drawn 0-0 with Liverpool yesterday.
Joe Royle used to say that every goal ever conceded is down to one or more individual errors.
In cricket, no batsman would ever get out without having made an individual error. In golf, every shot above par is down to individual error etc etc |  | | |
| I think we're forgetting slightly how much individual errors have costs us on 16:20 - Sep 13 with 1352 views | Olly |
Guys, if we'd simply have won all our games 3-0, we'd be top of the league!
Keep the faith, trust the process |  | | |
| I think we're forgetting slightly how much individual errors have costs us on 18:26 - Sep 13 with 1277 views | BlueBadger |
| I think we're forgetting slightly how much individual errors have costs us on 16:20 - Sep 13 by Olly |
Guys, if we'd simply have won all our games 3-0, we'd be top of the league!
Keep the faith, trust the process |
We tried 'keep changing the side and hoping for the best' under Lambert... | |
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| I think we're forgetting slightly how much individual errors have costs us on 09:04 - Sep 14 with 1061 views | Parmigiano |
There's a lot of comparing apples to oranges here.
Of course 90% of goals conceded have a defensive error somewhere.
But I'm talking about the howlers from Woolfenden and Evans (literally directly assisting goals to the opposition) and Bonne missing an open goal from less than a metre out. Those three incidents are very different to poor defensive positioning or a missed header etc... | | | |
| I think we're forgetting slightly how much individual errors have costs us on 09:07 - Sep 14 with 1055 views | BiGDonnie |
| I think we're forgetting slightly how much individual errors have costs us on 15:05 - Sep 13 by mylittletown |
Bit of a so what?
Without 3 individual defensive errors, Leeds would have drawn 0-0 with Liverpool yesterday.
Joe Royle used to say that every goal ever conceded is down to one or more individual errors.
In cricket, no batsman would ever get out without having made an individual error. In golf, every shot above par is down to individual error etc etc |
I think the OP made an individual error posting this! |  |
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| I think we're forgetting slightly how much individual errors have costs us on 09:30 - Sep 14 with 1008 views | Parmigiano |
| I think we're forgetting slightly how much individual errors have costs us on 09:07 - Sep 14 by BiGDonnie |
I think the OP made an individual error posting this! |
My favourite reply so far. The thought had crossed my mind... | | | |
| I think we're forgetting slightly how much individual errors have costs us on 09:35 - Sep 14 with 995 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| I think we're forgetting slightly how much individual errors have costs us on 09:04 - Sep 14 by Parmigiano |
There's a lot of comparing apples to oranges here.
Of course 90% of goals conceded have a defensive error somewhere.
But I'm talking about the howlers from Woolfenden and Evans (literally directly assisting goals to the opposition) and Bonne missing an open goal from less than a metre out. Those three incidents are very different to poor defensive positioning or a missed header etc... |
Maybe if we scored more goals and weren’t conceding 2+ per game, then individual errors wouldn’t be so pivotal… |  |
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| I think we're forgetting slightly how much individual errors have costs us on 09:45 - Sep 14 with 966 views | BiGDonnie |
| I think we're forgetting slightly how much individual errors have costs us on 09:30 - Sep 14 by Parmigiano |
My favourite reply so far. The thought had crossed my mind... |
Haha, it's TWTD the only time you have to worry is if you don't get a smart ar$e response! [Post edited 14 Sep 2021 9:45]
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| I think we're forgetting slightly how much individual errors have costs us on 09:45 - Sep 14 with 966 views | Steve_M |
| I think we're forgetting slightly how much individual errors have costs us on 09:04 - Sep 14 by Parmigiano |
There's a lot of comparing apples to oranges here.
Of course 90% of goals conceded have a defensive error somewhere.
But I'm talking about the howlers from Woolfenden and Evans (literally directly assisting goals to the opposition) and Bonne missing an open goal from less than a metre out. Those three incidents are very different to poor defensive positioning or a missed header etc... |
What about all the structural failings? Five goals conceded from set pieces versus Cheltenham, MK and Wimbledon. Or the defence totally melting away having been caught out (Morecombe, Burton and several times last Saturday).
We're a mess defensively and thinking it's just about individuals is being blindly optimistic. |  |
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