| In Brexit heartland, an Essex count 22:02 - May 26 with 4406 views | bluelagos |
Brexit party took about 50% of the vote (mate at the count)...
Make of that what you will. [Post edited 26 May 2019 22:03]
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| In Brexit heartland, an Essex count on 08:40 - May 27 with 676 views | bluelagos |
| In Brexit heartland, an Essex count on 08:31 - May 27 by GlasgowBlue |
The point of politics is not to figure out what’s popular and make it your policy.
And how does Labour solve this problem?
There are no good outcomes for either th Tories or Labour with regards to Brexit. Their voters are as split as the country.
I doubt we’ll see either of the two main parties win a majority in the next ten years. |
They cant solve it can they! Their fence sitting was rejected by many voters last night, but we all know general elections are different due to fptp.
Fiik how it plays out. A brexit deal, I think the tories walk an election. No brexit deal, every chance for Labour. | |
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| In Brexit heartland, an Essex count on 08:49 - May 27 with 657 views | tractordownsouth |
| In Brexit heartland, an Essex count on 00:21 - May 27 by Lord_Lucan |
You are also assuming that all the Lib Dem and Green vote are remainers.
It's likely that all the extra support they have received are remainers and it is probable that the majority of their existing vote are but not all of them.
The more I am watching this I wonder why I have bothered, I don't think you can take anything from tonight, except that nothing has changed. Well that's not strictly true I suppose, it is clear (as Glasgow alluded to earlier) that the two main parties have been hammered by people who are disgusted with their actions and performance since the referendum. |
Lib Dem voters are obviously all remainers |  |
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| In Brexit heartland, an Essex count on 08:50 - May 27 with 655 views | GlasgowBlue |
| In Brexit heartland, an Essex count on 08:40 - May 27 by bluelagos |
They cant solve it can they! Their fence sitting was rejected by many voters last night, but we all know general elections are different due to fptp.
Fiik how it plays out. A brexit deal, I think the tories walk an election. No brexit deal, every chance for Labour. |
If they come out for remain then they lose Wales, Large parts of the Midlands and the North East. If they were more honest about their current position (leave with a deal) then they lose London and large parts of the south. If they attempt to ride two horses again then the lose all of the above. |  |
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| In Brexit heartland, an Essex count on 09:15 - May 27 with 626 views | Lord_Lucan |
| In Brexit heartland, an Essex count on 08:49 - May 27 by tractordownsouth |
Lib Dem voters are obviously all remainers |
The new Lib Dem vote obviously were, as was the new Green vote - but the traditional Lib Dem and Green vote would not have been 100% remain as they would have included traditional tunnel vision party voters who always vote for them no matter what.
You can assume that the vast majority of Lib Dems and Greens are remainers and you can rightfully assume what every UKIP, Brexit and Change UK voter wants to do but to say that you know what every voter wants is ignorant.
I can't see how this Euro vote clarifies anything, we are still in the same cr4ppy situation as we were yesterday and the groovy gangs on here will all continue to spout the same bias crappy posts as yesterday.
Brexiters will continue to astound with their lack of thought, atrocious spelling and grammar. Remainers will continue to google soundbites and gang up on anyone who doesn't agree with them. No one will be prepared to even consider that there are positives and negatives from both leave and remain and we will continue to witness the same old runaround between the same old posters.
Both sides will claim a victory that isn't there and the SpruceMoose show and pals will make the board unreadable as per every other fecking day.
Tedious is hardly the word, it's a cringe fest.
You're welcome to it. [Post edited 27 May 2019 9:19]
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| In Brexit heartland, an Essex count on 09:20 - May 27 with 610 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| In Brexit heartland, an Essex count on 08:50 - May 27 by GlasgowBlue |
If they come out for remain then they lose Wales, Large parts of the Midlands and the North East. If they were more honest about their current position (leave with a deal) then they lose London and large parts of the south. If they attempt to ride two horses again then the lose all of the above. |
Only if you believe the EU would determine people's general election votes....it wouldn't! |  |
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| In Brexit heartland, an Essex count on 09:21 - May 27 with 604 views | StokieBlue |
| In Brexit heartland, an Essex count on 08:31 - May 27 by GlasgowBlue |
The point of politics is not to figure out what’s popular and make it your policy.
And how does Labour solve this problem?
There are no good outcomes for either th Tories or Labour with regards to Brexit. Their voters are as split as the country.
I doubt we’ll see either of the two main parties win a majority in the next ten years. |
Given the huge move to the Lib Dems it shows voters do forgive parties.
Given that, Labour would be best to assist the Tories in getting brexit done before the next election and then campaign on other stuff and essentially ignore it as it's done. They could then try and say they were getting it done for the good of the country.
There doesn't seem to be an easy way for them to win both the seats you highlighted at the moment.
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| In Brexit heartland, an Essex count on 09:24 - May 27 with 593 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| In Brexit heartland, an Essex count on 09:15 - May 27 by Lord_Lucan |
The new Lib Dem vote obviously were, as was the new Green vote - but the traditional Lib Dem and Green vote would not have been 100% remain as they would have included traditional tunnel vision party voters who always vote for them no matter what.
You can assume that the vast majority of Lib Dems and Greens are remainers and you can rightfully assume what every UKIP, Brexit and Change UK voter wants to do but to say that you know what every voter wants is ignorant.
I can't see how this Euro vote clarifies anything, we are still in the same cr4ppy situation as we were yesterday and the groovy gangs on here will all continue to spout the same bias crappy posts as yesterday.
Brexiters will continue to astound with their lack of thought, atrocious spelling and grammar. Remainers will continue to google soundbites and gang up on anyone who doesn't agree with them. No one will be prepared to even consider that there are positives and negatives from both leave and remain and we will continue to witness the same old runaround between the same old posters.
Both sides will claim a victory that isn't there and the SpruceMoose show and pals will make the board unreadable as per every other fecking day.
Tedious is hardly the word, it's a cringe fest.
You're welcome to it. [Post edited 27 May 2019 9:19]
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I’d up this 1 million times if I could |  |
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| In Brexit heartland, an Essex count on 09:28 - May 27 with 578 views | bournemouthblue |
| In Brexit heartland, an Essex count on 22:55 - May 26 by StokieBlue |
The results for the East of England are interesting.
Labour 5th behind the Tories. Brexit = (Labour + Tories) * 2 and also more than Lib Dems + Green + Change.
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The East is very Conservative, I'm surprised the Brexit Party aren't higher |  |
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| In Brexit heartland, an Essex count on 09:30 - May 27 with 571 views | GlasgowBlue |
| In Brexit heartland, an Essex count on 09:20 - May 27 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Only if you believe the EU would determine people's general election votes....it wouldn't! |
The last election wasn’t Bout zbrexit. The next one will be.
It’s also arrogant if the two main parties to think people will switch back from LibDems/Green to Labour and Brexit Party to Tory*
*obviously some Labour voted BP and some Tories voted LD/G | |
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| In Brexit heartland, an Essex count on 09:41 - May 27 with 553 views | Pinewoodblue |
| In Brexit heartland, an Essex count on 09:30 - May 27 by GlasgowBlue |
The last election wasn’t Bout zbrexit. The next one will be.
It’s also arrogant if the two main parties to think people will switch back from LibDems/Green to Labour and Brexit Party to Tory*
*obviously some Labour voted BP and some Tories voted LD/G |
If you are right and the next election is all about Brexit the number of Siting MPs deselected is going to be in three figures. If you live in Ipswich and were pro-Brexit would you vote Labour? |  |
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