| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! 13:04 - Apr 17 with 25371 views | Stewards_Enquiry |
Why do the tabloids and radio stations keep saying Ipswich got what they deserved for getting rid of over achiever MM ?
Do they not look at the Stats ? last 21 Games in charge hailed 15 points, yes we were safe but that and his gesture at Norwich away to our Fans should have seen him sacked there and then !
Nobody is happy with relegation and none (well not many) saw it coming ! It has, we move on, the club is bigger than any manager!
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| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 14:06 - Apr 17 with 4795 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 13:31 - Apr 17 by No9 |
The 'horror show' as you put it has been around for some time & I am realistc rather than obsessed.
I was able to see the decline in on field performances & can't understand why you could not. 2016 /17 showed things were not good. Last season things looken ominous.
I can;t see how any FB manager that can't do much better than average circa 1.5 point a game can be considered to be a good FB manager.
Relegation has been on the cards since 2015
We obviously have differnt standards |
Yes, moving up the league table last year and finishing in the top half definitely looked ominous |  |
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| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 14:07 - Apr 17 with 4793 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 13:07 - Apr 17 by footers |
Starting another MM thread may lead to more people speaking about MM.
Just FYI. |
Who? Malcom McClaren? |  |
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| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 14:20 - Apr 17 with 4768 views | BlueBadger |
| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 13:20 - Apr 17 by No9 |
You were OK with crap football & a point a game?
I was aware MM wasn't very ambitious but thought Town supporters were? |
It's better than crap football and less than a point a game. |  |
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| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 14:28 - Apr 17 with 4758 views | Ryorry |
| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 14:06 - Apr 17 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Yes, moving up the league table last year and finishing in the top half definitely looked ominous |
I don't see the point in continuing to argue about it tbh. People are obviously different and it's therefore natural that they want different things out of the leisure activities they spend money on.
The two main camps who disagree on this (and have done for months, if not years) are clearly never going to agree, so best save the time on that & put it into supporting the Town & our current manager as they are now & in future. Our last 2 managers are just history. |  |
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| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 14:50 - Apr 17 with 4735 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 14:28 - Apr 17 by Ryorry |
I don't see the point in continuing to argue about it tbh. People are obviously different and it's therefore natural that they want different things out of the leisure activities they spend money on.
The two main camps who disagree on this (and have done for months, if not years) are clearly never going to agree, so best save the time on that & put it into supporting the Town & our current manager as they are now & in future. Our last 2 managers are just history. |
Completely agree different people want different things and there were of course plenty of valid reasons to want a change of manager - things had gone stale under Mick and it was worth the gamble IMO
That doesn’t mean I won’t point out where people are completely making things up of course - such as the notion that we were on our way to relegation under Mick anyway, which some posters still seem insistent on pushing | |
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| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 15:50 - Apr 17 with 4704 views | BlueBadger |
| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 13:24 - Apr 17 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Agreed.
I've also noticed the media saying the Ipswich fans seem to think promotion from League 1 will be easy...
...thats the stick they will use to beat us with next season. Even though most people arent of that opinion. Yes, most fans think we will be more competitive, but most dont think we are a dead cert for promotion. |
In all fairness, if they've been reading here, then they might come to that conclusion... | |
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| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 16:24 - Apr 17 with 4675 views | Wonky |
People are reflecting now we're down so MM will come into it, expect it to die away properly now. |  | | |
| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 16:26 - Apr 17 with 4671 views | No9 |
| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 14:28 - Apr 17 by Ryorry |
I don't see the point in continuing to argue about it tbh. People are obviously different and it's therefore natural that they want different things out of the leisure activities they spend money on.
The two main camps who disagree on this (and have done for months, if not years) are clearly never going to agree, so best save the time on that & put it into supporting the Town & our current manager as they are now & in future. Our last 2 managers are just history. |
We should not try to hide the fact that Town haven't had a decent manager for a very long while.
There is no point in making out things were good when they weren't.
We have to hope ME has learned ( a vVERY expensive lesson ) & will now try to stabilise ITFC to build a better future.
The memories of a decade of bad football will not fade immediately.
Last Saturday the 2nd half raised made us remember what excitement is |  | | |
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| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 16:46 - Apr 17 with 4657 views | PJH |
| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 16:26 - Apr 17 by No9 |
We should not try to hide the fact that Town haven't had a decent manager for a very long while.
There is no point in making out things were good when they weren't.
We have to hope ME has learned ( a vVERY expensive lesson ) & will now try to stabilise ITFC to build a better future.
The memories of a decade of bad football will not fade immediately.
Last Saturday the 2nd half raised made us remember what excitement is |
Is that a fact?
Looks a bit like an opinion to me. |  | | |
| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 17:36 - Apr 17 with 4627 views | No9 |
| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 16:46 - Apr 17 by PJH |
Is that a fact?
Looks a bit like an opinion to me. |
Yes my opinion is that, I hope ME has learned somethign from his expensive mistakes | | | |
| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 17:42 - Apr 17 with 4617 views | PJH |
| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 17:36 - Apr 17 by No9 |
Yes my opinion is that, I hope ME has learned somethign from his expensive mistakes |
and your opinion is that Town have not had a decent manager for a very long while. | | | |
| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 18:12 - Apr 17 with 4601 views | peterleeblue |
To be fair his time up was up after the Lincoln cup match. |  | | |
| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 18:29 - Apr 17 with 4594 views | longtimefan |
| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 18:12 - Apr 17 by peterleeblue |
To be fair his time up was up after the Lincoln cup match. |
You had better go and tell Sean Dyche that his time at Burnley is up as well then, seeing as they lost to Lincoln in the next round and what with them being a Premier League team  | | | |
| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 19:55 - Apr 17 with 4556 views | m14_blue |
| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 15:50 - Apr 17 by BlueBadger |
In all fairness, if they've been reading here, then they might come to that conclusion... |
I don’t think that’s true in the least. You seem to be seeing what you expect to see rather than what people have actually said.
If anything, I would imagine they would be surprised by the negativity and realism on here. I’m not sure I’ve seen anyone seriously suggesting it’ll be easy next year.
I suspect we’ll be among the bookies favourites but our fans are being (rightly) cautious from what I’ve seen. | | | |
| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 21:01 - Apr 17 with 4532 views | Binner |
OP says "Nobody is happy with relegation and none (well not many) saw it coming!"
As I remember it we were favourites for relegation. |  |
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| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 07:37 - Apr 18 with 4469 views | Hoppersblue10 |
| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 13:23 - Apr 17 by BlueBadger |
For the sake of comparison, Lambert has 14 from his last 21. |
Yes I would say we have done much better, if you compare the strikers available to both MM & PL then clearly PL has done a better job with what he has to work with ðŸ‘🻠|  |
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| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 07:46 - Apr 18 with 4449 views | Herbivore |
| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 07:37 - Apr 18 by Hoppersblue10 |
Yes I would say we have done much better, if you compare the strikers available to both MM & PL then clearly PL has done a better job with what he has to work with ðŸ‘🻠|
Lolz. |  |
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| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 07:47 - Apr 18 with 4449 views | christiand |
| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 13:28 - Apr 17 by Herbivore |
He won his last game so not sure where that particular run of form is from. Not sure anyone thinks it was rosy in any case, just not sure why people need to lie about and distort the past to make themselves feel better about the present if they do genuinely believe we're on the verge of a golden era. |
The last 21 games of MM's reign(from Wolves away) we amassed a total of 21 points. P21 W5 D6 L10. | |
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| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 07:49 - Apr 18 with 4443 views | Herbivore |
| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 07:47 - Apr 18 by christiand |
The last 21 games of MM's reign(from Wolves away) we amassed a total of 21 points. P21 W5 D6 L10. |
24 points. The last 21 games start with Reading at home and end with Barnsley at home. Unless you're including the FA Cup game, which can't really be included in a run of games where your focus is on points accrued. [Post edited 18 Apr 2019 8:06]
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| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 07:51 - Apr 18 with 4442 views | Mullet |
| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 07:37 - Apr 18 by Hoppersblue10 |
Yes I would say we have done much better, if you compare the strikers available to both MM & PL then clearly PL has done a better job with what he has to work with ðŸ‘🻠|
That's not really true is it?
Campbell was in non-league 2 years after us and making no more than 7 appearances for a club before retiring.
The difference being that Mick crafted a team out of what he had that played to its strengths and got results. Quaner is a Premier League player, whether he's a good one is debatable, but Lambert has had far more resources to work with however you cut it.
Mick was bringing players Moshni off the bench and shoehorning Wellens in to left wing etc. Just doing down that miracle doesn't serve to save Lambert face, it just highlights how good Mick was for us throughout his time here.
It's uncomfortable truth, but again all I see is his critics bringing him to get themselves angry and embarrassed. Sacking him has cost us our championship status, our best players and millions of quid as well as years of progress potentially.
We can have our club back as much as we want, but that will only last so long if we are midtable and show no signs of promotion next season. |  |
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| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 07:56 - Apr 18 with 4425 views | Mullet |
| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 13:31 - Apr 17 by No9 |
The 'horror show' as you put it has been around for some time & I am realistc rather than obsessed.
I was able to see the decline in on field performances & can't understand why you could not. 2016 /17 showed things were not good. Last season things looken ominous.
I can;t see how any FB manager that can't do much better than average circa 1.5 point a game can be considered to be a good FB manager.
Relegation has been on the cards since 2015
We obviously have differnt standards |
You were proven wrong about this last time you mentioned it, and now you've tried to shift it to a season where we finished 7th and not 6th as some sort of oracle type insight of "declining performances".
Your standards are generally inconsistent though, same as your bizarre views on Skuse and lack of condemnation for Hurst and Lambert. | |
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| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 08:02 - Apr 18 with 4405 views | Hoppersblue10 |
| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 07:51 - Apr 18 by Mullet |
That's not really true is it?
Campbell was in non-league 2 years after us and making no more than 7 appearances for a club before retiring.
The difference being that Mick crafted a team out of what he had that played to its strengths and got results. Quaner is a Premier League player, whether he's a good one is debatable, but Lambert has had far more resources to work with however you cut it.
Mick was bringing players Moshni off the bench and shoehorning Wellens in to left wing etc. Just doing down that miracle doesn't serve to save Lambert face, it just highlights how good Mick was for us throughout his time here.
It's uncomfortable truth, but again all I see is his critics bringing him to get themselves angry and embarrassed. Sacking him has cost us our championship status, our best players and millions of quid as well as years of progress potentially.
We can have our club back as much as we want, but that will only last so long if we are midtable and show no signs of promotion next season. |
You do make me laugh, not been on here for a while, now I remember why. 😂 | |
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| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 08:04 - Apr 18 with 4396 views | footers |
| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 08:02 - Apr 18 by Hoppersblue10 |
You do make me laugh, not been on here for a while, now I remember why. 😂 |
Excellent counter-argument.
I make you right . |  |
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| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 08:05 - Apr 18 with 4385 views | Mullet |
| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 08:02 - Apr 18 by Hoppersblue10 |
You do make me laugh, not been on here for a while, now I remember why. 😂 |
Who were all these strikers we had back then though?
I'm not being funny but if people keep bringing him up and he was that bad surely the facts speak for themselves? | |
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| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 08:09 - Apr 18 with 4368 views | Hoppersblue10 |
| Sick of MM being mentioned last 21 Games 15 points says enough surely ! on 08:04 - Apr 18 by footers |
Excellent counter-argument.
I make you right . |
Not on here for an argument at all.
If anyone really thinks that PL has had “better resources” available to him than MM did last season then I stand corrected ðŸ‘🻠| |
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