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We wouldn't be in this mess if... 15:17 - Jan 6 with 7188 viewsjaseitfc

George Burley never left in 2002
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We wouldn't be in this mess if... on 15:19 - Jan 6 with 4060 viewsMach_foreignBlue

Joe Royle had to sort out the mess left by Burley.
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We wouldn't be in this mess if... on 15:20 - Jan 6 with 4055 viewsjaseitfc

We wouldn't be in this mess if... on 15:19 - Jan 6 by Mach_foreignBlue

Joe Royle had to sort out the mess left by Burley.


Bet we wouldn't be bottom today if we stuck with Burley...

I hope your pleased now
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We wouldn't be in this mess if... on 15:22 - Jan 6 with 4046 viewsMach_foreignBlue

We wouldn't be in this mess if... on 15:20 - Jan 6 by jaseitfc

Bet we wouldn't be bottom today if we stuck with Burley...

I hope your pleased now


How do you do know we wouldn't be bottom?
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We wouldn't be in this mess if... on 15:23 - Jan 6 with 4035 viewsMalcolmBlue

We wouldn't be in this mess if... on 15:19 - Jan 6 by Mach_foreignBlue

Joe Royle had to sort out the mess left by Burley.


We were a consistent playoff contender with Burley's "mess"

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We wouldn't be in this mess if... on 15:24 - Jan 6 with 4032 viewspositivity

We wouldn't be in this mess if... on 15:20 - Jan 6 by jaseitfc

Bet we wouldn't be bottom today if we stuck with Burley...

I hope your pleased now


i don't think we'd be bottom.
probably mid-table in league one or worse

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We wouldn't be in this mess if... on 15:31 - Jan 6 with 4005 viewsgainsboroughblue

We wouldn't be in this mess if... on 15:20 - Jan 6 by jaseitfc

Bet we wouldn't be bottom today if we stuck with Burley...

I hope your pleased now


Did Mach sack him?

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We wouldn't be in this mess if... on 15:19 - Jan 6 by Mach_foreignBlue

Joe Royle had to sort out the mess left by Burley.


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We wouldn't be in this mess if... on 15:42 - Jan 6 with 3968 viewsBloomBlue

Burley relegated us if we had sacked him a year earlier we would still be in the prem
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We wouldn't be in this mess if... on 15:44 - Jan 6 with 3967 viewsIllinoisblue

I blame Thomas Cobbold. If he hadn't formed the club in 1878 we wouldn't be in this mess now.

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We wouldn't be in this mess if... on 15:49 - Jan 6 with 3942 viewspositivity

We wouldn't be in this mess if... on 15:23 - Jan 6 by MalcolmBlue

We were a consistent playoff contender with Burley's "mess"


we were...

until burley went mad , bought a load of non-suitable players, relegated us, left us on the edge of the championship relegation zone (remember grimsby?) and ready to go into administration.

bfj saved us from his relegation to league 1, but administration led directly to evans, keane, jewell, mick, hurst and our current mess

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We wouldn't be in this mess if... on 15:49 - Jan 6 by positivity

we were...

until burley went mad , bought a load of non-suitable players, relegated us, left us on the edge of the championship relegation zone (remember grimsby?) and ready to go into administration.

bfj saved us from his relegation to league 1, but administration led directly to evans, keane, jewell, mick, hurst and our current mess


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We wouldn't be in this mess if... on 16:29 - Jan 6 with 3854 viewspositivity

on 16:19 - Jan 6 by _



my recollection is scowie went because of burley not picking him? i agree wright's loss was a big one, but he had plenty of time and money to replace him better (and cheaper) than marshall plus sereni

finidi while talented was a poor signing for us at that time, if we think jackson is a poor buy, le pen was absolutely atrocious! marcus bent was an overpriced panic buy, though he got a few goals

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We wouldn't be in this mess if... on 16:34 - Jan 6 with 3835 viewsTrequartista

We wouldn't be in this mess if... on 15:49 - Jan 6 by positivity

we were...

until burley went mad , bought a load of non-suitable players, relegated us, left us on the edge of the championship relegation zone (remember grimsby?) and ready to go into administration.

bfj saved us from his relegation to league 1, but administration led directly to evans, keane, jewell, mick, hurst and our current mess


championship relegation zone is unfair, we had games in hand because of european games. we actually had P10 W3 D3 L4, a record we'd kill for nowadays.

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We wouldn't be in this mess if... on 16:48 - Jan 6 with 3805 viewspositivity

We wouldn't be in this mess if... on 16:34 - Jan 6 by Trequartista

championship relegation zone is unfair, we had games in hand because of european games. we actually had P10 W3 D3 L4, a record we'd kill for nowadays.


we were 19th and unable to get within 2 goals of a v poor grimsby team with a "premiership quality" side!
just like mick, burley had to go for the good of the club. sheepy made a far better choice of replacement than evans though!

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We wouldn't be in this mess if... on 16:29 - Jan 6 by positivity

my recollection is scowie went because of burley not picking him? i agree wright's loss was a big one, but he had plenty of time and money to replace him better (and cheaper) than marshall plus sereni

finidi while talented was a poor signing for us at that time, if we think jackson is a poor buy, le pen was absolutely atrocious! marcus bent was an overpriced panic buy, though he got a few goals


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We wouldn't be in this mess if... on 17:03 - Jan 6 with 3758 viewsbournemouthblue

We wouldn't be in this mess if... on 15:19 - Jan 6 by Mach_foreignBlue

Joe Royle had to sort out the mess left by Burley.


As good a job as Burley did, he had to go much in the same way MM did

Royle like McCarthy would have got us up if he had been given some money

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We wouldn't be in this mess if... on 17:06 - Jan 6 with 3748 viewspositivity

on 16:54 - Jan 6 by _



scowie started 1 of the last 7 games, burley chose to get rid, which was a mistake (similar to hurst's, too much change too soon).
finidi cost a lot, played a few good games, scored one goal after new year, good player, not what we needed at the time
m bent disturbed the armstrong/stewart axis, keeping scowie would have been a damn sight cheaper and less upheaval
le pen, a lightweight french winger with no experience at a big club or league was not what we needed at the time, injury or not! as successful as karic!

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We wouldn't be in this mess if... on 17:08 - Jan 6 with 3744 viewsjaseitfc

We wouldn't be in this mess if... on 15:44 - Jan 6 by Illinoisblue

I blame Thomas Cobbold. If he hadn't formed the club in 1878 we wouldn't be in this mess now.


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We wouldn't be in this mess if... on 17:06 - Jan 6 by positivity

scowie started 1 of the last 7 games, burley chose to get rid, which was a mistake (similar to hurst's, too much change too soon).
finidi cost a lot, played a few good games, scored one goal after new year, good player, not what we needed at the time
m bent disturbed the armstrong/stewart axis, keeping scowie would have been a damn sight cheaper and less upheaval
le pen, a lightweight french winger with no experience at a big club or league was not what we needed at the time, injury or not! as successful as karic!


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We wouldn't be in this mess if... on 17:08 - Jan 6 with 3745 viewsTrequartista

We wouldn't be in this mess if... on 16:48 - Jan 6 by positivity

we were 19th and unable to get within 2 goals of a v poor grimsby team with a "premiership quality" side!
just like mick, burley had to go for the good of the club. sheepy made a far better choice of replacement than evans though!


As i just said, the league position was false due to games in hand, so just repeating we were 19th does not really help your argument. Grimsby was just one game, a lot of the other results were unfortunate, Bradford home and Preston away we created countless chances and should have won both. Sheepshanks had already contacted Royle before Grimsby anyway. It was a mistake in hindsight, we were still under the delusion that we had a divine right to be in the Premiership at the time.

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We wouldn't be in this mess if... on 17:39 - Jan 6 with 3695 viewspositivity

on 17:08 - Jan 6 by _



jonas has his faults, but he was never hooked after 20 minutes!

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We wouldn't be in this mess if... on 17:40 - Jan 6 with 3691 viewsjas0999

I like Joe Royle. Jim didn’t do too bad in comparison to the last few years.
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We wouldn't be in this mess if... on 17:39 - Jan 6 by positivity

jonas has his faults, but he was never hooked after 20 minutes!


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We wouldn't be in this mess if... on 17:41 - Jan 6 with 3688 viewsjas0999

We wouldn't be in this mess if... on 15:23 - Jan 6 by MalcolmBlue

We were a consistent playoff contender with Burley's "mess"


Not after relegation from the PL we weren’t.
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We wouldn't be in this mess if... on 17:50 - Jan 6 with 3656 viewsBlueBadger

I don't think we even would if Evans had held his nerve with Magilton. Great work there, numbskulls.

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