| A second referendum is looking more likely by the day 16:10 - Dec 11 with 8075 views | GeoffSentence |
Since parliament can't sort this out for themselves.
But what will be on the ballot paper?
My bet is that it would be May's deal vs No Deal.
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| A second referendum is looking more likely by the day on 20:42 - Dec 11 with 1337 views | SpruceMoose |
| A second referendum is looking more likely by the day on 20:40 - Dec 11 by wkj |
That weren't plastic mate |
I refused to consider any other possibility than it being plastic. Any other possibilities are too traumatising. |  |
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| A second referendum is looking more likely by the day on 21:22 - Dec 11 with 1308 views | XYZ |
| A second referendum is looking more likely by the day on 20:25 - Dec 11 by SpruceMoose |
You're as much a leaver as Ulla is a Budgie. You realise you blundered. |
he's in rehabrexit? |  | | |
| A second referendum is looking more likely by the day on 21:32 - Dec 11 with 1294 views | Oxford_Blue |
Your post doesn’t explain why a second referendum is more likely.
How would this happen? | | | |
| A second referendum is looking more likely by the day on 21:35 - Dec 11 with 1289 views | wkj |
| A second referendum is looking more likely by the day on 21:32 - Dec 11 by Oxford_Blue |
Your post doesn’t explain why a second referendum is more likely.
How would this happen? |
At the time this was posted, some of the news agencies covering the emergency meeting in commons were making mention of how a second voted was looking more possible now than previously. Hope this helps. [Post edited 11 Dec 2018 21:35]
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| A second referendum is looking more likely by the day on 21:39 - Dec 11 with 1279 views | Oxford_Blue |
| A second referendum is looking more likely by the day on 21:35 - Dec 11 by wkj |
At the time this was posted, some of the news agencies covering the emergency meeting in commons were making mention of how a second voted was looking more possible now than previously. Hope this helps. [Post edited 11 Dec 2018 21:35]
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Not really as I’m interested in the detail.
Who would propose this legislation?
Why would it be passed? The stated and repeated policy of the government and opposition is not to have a second referendum. | | | |
| A second referendum is looking more likely by the day on 21:40 - Dec 11 with 1279 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
A second referendum is looking more likely.
Only Conservative members will get a vote and the ballot paper will have 2 options out of Rees-Mogg (or no deal), Gove (or May's deal) and someone unheard of (second referendum or remain). |  |
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| A second referendum is looking more likely by the day on 21:41 - Dec 11 with 1273 views | wkj |
| A second referendum is looking more likely by the day on 21:39 - Dec 11 by Oxford_Blue |
Not really as I’m interested in the detail.
Who would propose this legislation?
Why would it be passed? The stated and repeated policy of the government and opposition is not to have a second referendum. |
Oh, well, i'm sure the story is still online somewhere should you want to find out the details relating to the post at the time it was made. | |
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| A second referendum is looking more likely by the day on 21:46 - Dec 11 with 1258 views | Oxford_Blue |
| A second referendum is looking more likely by the day on 21:40 - Dec 11 by Nthsuffolkblue |
A second referendum is looking more likely.
Only Conservative members will get a vote and the ballot paper will have 2 options out of Rees-Mogg (or no deal), Gove (or May's deal) and someone unheard of (second referendum or remain). |
So you’re saying there will be a Tory leadership contest and the winner will put forward a second referendum bill?
Where’s the evidence for this?
Please don’t say “the internet” | | | |
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| A second referendum is looking more likely by the day on 21:56 - Dec 11 with 1246 views | wkj |
| A second referendum is looking more likely by the day on 21:46 - Dec 11 by Oxford_Blue |
So you’re saying there will be a Tory leadership contest and the winner will put forward a second referendum bill?
Where’s the evidence for this?
Please don’t say “the internet” |
With respect, what are acceptable avenues of evidence?
I mean, the internet has its problems with false reporting, as does mainstream media propped up by political bias. It simply isn't viable to reject entire sources of investigation like that. | |
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| A second referendum is looking more likely by the day on 22:03 - Dec 11 with 1237 views | Oxford_Blue |
| A second referendum is looking more likely by the day on 21:56 - Dec 11 by wkj |
With respect, what are acceptable avenues of evidence?
I mean, the internet has its problems with false reporting, as does mainstream media propped up by political bias. It simply isn't viable to reject entire sources of investigation like that. |
Right, so where is your credible evidence then?
If a politician is reported as making a statement on the BBC then I think it’s more reliable than lazy hearsay.
I don’t get why a new Tory leader who opposed May for her weak line on Brexit and failure to deliver the first referendum would want a second vote. I’m just asking where the evidence is for this. | | | |
| A second referendum is looking more likely by the day on 22:09 - Dec 11 with 1228 views | wkj |
| A second referendum is looking more likely by the day on 22:03 - Dec 11 by Oxford_Blue |
Right, so where is your credible evidence then?
If a politician is reported as making a statement on the BBC then I think it’s more reliable than lazy hearsay.
I don’t get why a new Tory leader who opposed May for her weak line on Brexit and failure to deliver the first referendum would want a second vote. I’m just asking where the evidence is for this. |
This was never an opinion based thread, this was a post made at the time different theories and possibilities were being commented on at the time the commons debate was going on - such is the reason I sign posted you to that.
The OP words the post quite accurately as something looking more likely than before, rather than something that is about to happen, so attempting to hold the OP to task here is not really relevant. [Post edited 11 Dec 2018 22:10]
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| A second referendum is looking more likely by the day on 22:16 - Dec 11 with 1212 views | Oxford_Blue |
| A second referendum is looking more likely by the day on 22:09 - Dec 11 by wkj |
This was never an opinion based thread, this was a post made at the time different theories and possibilities were being commented on at the time the commons debate was going on - such is the reason I sign posted you to that.
The OP words the post quite accurately as something looking more likely than before, rather than something that is about to happen, so attempting to hold the OP to task here is not really relevant. [Post edited 11 Dec 2018 22:10]
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So the OP just repeats things they don’t know are true or not?
Great. | | | |
| A second referendum is looking more likely by the day on 22:19 - Dec 11 with 1209 views | wkj |
| A second referendum is looking more likely by the day on 22:16 - Dec 11 by Oxford_Blue |
So the OP just repeats things they don’t know are true or not?
Great. |
Great indeed, opening a discussion on it to investigate other people's thoughts on it rather than taking it to heart, much more productive than trying to browbeat and condescend others, especially when the context of the OP was obvious at the time of posting. [Post edited 11 Dec 2018 22:20]
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| A second referendum is looking more likely by the day on 22:22 - Dec 11 with 1200 views | Oxford_Blue |
| A second referendum is looking more likely by the day on 22:19 - Dec 11 by wkj |
Great indeed, opening a discussion on it to investigate other people's thoughts on it rather than taking it to heart, much more productive than trying to browbeat and condescend others, especially when the context of the OP was obvious at the time of posting. [Post edited 11 Dec 2018 22:20]
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You’re taking it to heart, clearly.
I’m just trying to apply some rigour. | | | |
| A second referendum is looking more likely by the day on 22:24 - Dec 11 with 1199 views | wkj |
| A second referendum is looking more likely by the day on 22:22 - Dec 11 by Oxford_Blue |
You’re taking it to heart, clearly.
I’m just trying to apply some rigour. |
Can you provide evidence that I am taking it to heart, rather than help provide context for the basis of the OP? | |
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| A second referendum is looking more likely by the day on 22:31 - Dec 11 with 1188 views | Oxford_Blue |
| A second referendum is looking more likely by the day on 22:24 - Dec 11 by wkj |
Can you provide evidence that I am taking it to heart, rather than help provide context for the basis of the OP? |
Yes. Your post uses emotional language.
...”much more productive than trying to browbeat and condescend others”
You feel that you’re being talked down to and patronised. That’s an emotional reaction and evidence of taking it to heart.
You weren’t being talked down to by the way! | | | |
| A second referendum is looking more likely by the day on 22:33 - Dec 11 with 1185 views | wkj |
| A second referendum is looking more likely by the day on 22:31 - Dec 11 by Oxford_Blue |
Yes. Your post uses emotional language.
...”much more productive than trying to browbeat and condescend others”
You feel that you’re being talked down to and patronised. That’s an emotional reaction and evidence of taking it to heart.
You weren’t being talked down to by the way! |
Ahhhh I see- sorry about that, unfortunately you are mistaken, as I took nothing to heart.
Apologies if it seemed that way,. | |
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| A second referendum is looking more likely by the day on 22:36 - Dec 11 with 1178 views | SpruceMoose |
| A second referendum is looking more likely by the day on 22:22 - Dec 11 by Oxford_Blue |
You’re taking it to heart, clearly.
I’m just trying to apply some rigour. |
Seeing as this forum isn't considered any kind of scholarly source, you're probably on the wrong forum bub | |
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| A second referendum is looking more likely by the day on 23:32 - Dec 11 with 1151 views | Herbivore |
| A second referendum is looking more likely by the day on 22:36 - Dec 11 by SpruceMoose |
Seeing as this forum isn't considered any kind of scholarly source, you're probably on the wrong forum bub |
His application of rigour is also, at best, very patchy. For starters he expects rigour of others whilst displaying little himself. |  |
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| A second referendum is looking more likely by the day on 23:32 - Dec 11 with 1151 views | m14_blue |
| A second referendum is looking more likely by the day on 22:03 - Dec 11 by Oxford_Blue |
Right, so where is your credible evidence then?
If a politician is reported as making a statement on the BBC then I think it’s more reliable than lazy hearsay.
I don’t get why a new Tory leader who opposed May for her weak line on Brexit and failure to deliver the first referendum would want a second vote. I’m just asking where the evidence is for this. |
I guess it’s because we are running out of alternatives.
There isn’t a majority for any of the options in parliament, least of all no deal. The only hope for the Brexit supporting MP’s was to compromise and settle on a deal which meets most, but not all, of their criteria but also avoids alienating the majority of MP’s. However, they are too stubborn/stupid to realise this and, by chasing the impossible, they have jeopardised any Brexit at all.
How else other than a referendum or election can you see the deadlock be broken? | | | |
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