| Ftse down again this morning 08:58 - Dec 6 with 42506 views | bluelagos |
House prices down 5%.
Thanks a fcking lot Brexiteers. |  |
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| Ftse down again this morning on 10:17 - Dec 6 with 2933 views | giant_stow |
| Ftse down again this morning on 10:05 - Dec 6 by J2BLUE |
Bread and circuses. We're currently enjoying the circus before the softest of Brexits or no Brexit. Don't be fooled into thinking there is any chance of a hard Brexit or 'Brexit' as it was called before remain lost the vote. |
Fair dos - hope you're right. |  |
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| Ftse down again this morning on 10:19 - Dec 6 with 2929 views | StokieBlue |
| Ftse down again this morning on 10:08 - Dec 6 by GlasgowBlue |
Withdraw article 50 is a guaranteed way to shore up, and perhaps even increase, a leave vote. |
Maybe but it's the only way to buy the time needed to have the vote.
I'm not looking for a route to undermine either side of the vote or increase either side - just something that's actually possible.
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| Ftse down again this morning on 10:20 - Dec 6 with 2925 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Ftse down again this morning on 10:15 - Dec 6 by giant_stow |
We can probably cancel article 50 if things get sticky. |
I doubt there is a majority in the commons for withdrawing article 50.
But we will soon find out. The DUP have said they will back the government in a confidence motion if May’s deal is voted down. So there is now no prospect of Labour forcing a general election. Labour conference voted that if there isn’t a general election they would support a second refendum so I expect to see Jezza propose this next week. |  |
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| Ftse down again this morning on 10:22 - Dec 6 with 2909 views | J2BLUE |
| Ftse down again this morning on 10:20 - Dec 6 by GlasgowBlue |
I doubt there is a majority in the commons for withdrawing article 50.
But we will soon find out. The DUP have said they will back the government in a confidence motion if May’s deal is voted down. So there is now no prospect of Labour forcing a general election. Labour conference voted that if there isn’t a general election they would support a second refendum so I expect to see Jezza propose this next week. |
Corbyn seems all too keen to sign his own death warrant with this call for a general election. He'd be resigning the day after an election. |  |
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| Ftse down again this morning on 10:26 - Dec 6 with 2893 views | giant_stow |
| Ftse down again this morning on 10:20 - Dec 6 by GlasgowBlue |
I doubt there is a majority in the commons for withdrawing article 50.
But we will soon find out. The DUP have said they will back the government in a confidence motion if May’s deal is voted down. So there is now no prospect of Labour forcing a general election. Labour conference voted that if there isn’t a general election they would support a second refendum so I expect to see Jezza propose this next week. |
That maybe the case now - I'll take your word for it, you been the politico, but that may change if we're a week before the leave date and nothings settled. Hope you're right about a 2nd referendum being more likely than a general election - that's massive priority that needs sorting. | |
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| Ftse down again this morning on 10:36 - Dec 6 with 2869 views | No9 |
| Ftse down again this morning on 10:06 - Dec 6 by StokieBlue |
So wouldn't the solution be:
1) Withdraw article 50.
2) Hold a remain vs no deal referendum.
3) Act on the result whichever way it goes.
That way people can't say they didn't know what they were voting for, there is no uncertainty on the two positions and if we remain it's on the same terms as before this all started. We aren't going to get a "good" deal so might as well stop trying to head down that path.
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It is pretty clear that if Article 50 is with drawn there will be no re-run of this pantomime we have had for 2 years.
It will almost certainly be 'play by the book, leave then negotiate the bits you wish to be involved in once you are out'. |  | | |
| Ftse down again this morning on 10:38 - Dec 6 with 2865 views | Benters2 |
| Ftse down again this morning on 09:21 - Dec 6 by DanTheMan |
Does it not affect people who have recently bought a house? |
Wait,wait I know this one !!!
I can afford drugs,alcohol,tattoos etc but I can’t afford a house !!
Smash the fkn system!!! | | | |
| Ftse down again this morning on 10:40 - Dec 6 with 2847 views | DanTheMan |
| Ftse down again this morning on 10:38 - Dec 6 by Benters2 |
Wait,wait I know this one !!!
I can afford drugs,alcohol,tattoos etc but I can’t afford a house !!
Smash the fkn system!!! |
Yeah mate, all young people are just spending all their money on drugs, that's why they can't afford deposits.
Well done.
Why are you such an arsehole? |  |
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| Ftse down again this morning on 10:41 - Dec 6 with 2839 views | Withnail |
| Ftse down again this morning on 10:38 - Dec 6 by Benters2 |
Wait,wait I know this one !!!
I can afford drugs,alcohol,tattoos etc but I can’t afford a house !!
Smash the fkn system!!! |
But I'm entitled to a house!! It's my hooman right!1! |  | | |
| Ftse down again this morning on 10:42 - Dec 6 with 2835 views | giant_stow |
| Ftse down again this morning on 10:38 - Dec 6 by Benters2 |
Wait,wait I know this one !!!
I can afford drugs,alcohol,tattoos etc but I can’t afford a house !!
Smash the fkn system!!! |
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| Ftse down again this morning on 10:42 - Dec 6 with 2834 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Ftse down again this morning on 10:07 - Dec 6 by footers |
Meh. You voted for Brexit, you tell me. Didn't you anticipate uncertainty, any downturn in the economy? Isn't it all a worthwhile price to pay for leaving the EUSSR?
I'm not a Brexiteer so you'll have to find the answers with the big-brains who were promising us milk and honey. |
Sometimes things need to fall apart before they can get fixed.....the EU hasn't exactly been falling over itself to implement Varoufakis style reforms ! #ch@os.
Frexit etc not far off now.....at least we will be ahead of the curve! |  |
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| Ftse down again this morning on 10:43 - Dec 6 with 2823 views | StokieBlue |
| Ftse down again this morning on 10:40 - Dec 6 by DanTheMan |
Yeah mate, all young people are just spending all their money on drugs, that's why they can't afford deposits.
Well done.
Why are you such an arsehole? |
He's having a dig at one specific poster.
You are of course entirely right in the general case. It's a huge problem with no obvious solution which doesn't create other problems.
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| Ftse down again this morning on 10:43 - Dec 6 with 2821 views | footers |
| Ftse down again this morning on 10:41 - Dec 6 by Withnail |
But I'm entitled to a house!! It's my hooman right!1! |
Do you always think in spoonfed stereotypes? Stupid question but thought it might be worth an ask. |  |
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| Ftse down again this morning on 10:43 - Dec 6 with 2820 views | Benters2 |
| Ftse down again this morning on 10:40 - Dec 6 by DanTheMan |
Yeah mate, all young people are just spending all their money on drugs, that's why they can't afford deposits.
Well done.
Why are you such an arsehole? |
They could save like I had too.
5 years me and my good lady saved for a deposit.
In that time I stopped drinking didn’t smoke anything or get any tattoos done either. | | | |
| Ftse down again this morning on 10:44 - Dec 6 with 2815 views | DanTheMan |
| Ftse down again this morning on 10:43 - Dec 6 by StokieBlue |
He's having a dig at one specific poster.
You are of course entirely right in the general case. It's a huge problem with no obvious solution which doesn't create other problems.
SB |
I could probably do without being dragged into people's pathetic personal vendettas if that's the case [Post edited 6 Dec 2018 10:44]
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| Ftse down again this morning on 10:45 - Dec 6 with 2812 views | TractorWood |
Brexit is a factor but the principal issue is uncertainty. The markets hate it more than bad news because at least bad news is an opportunity to buy! |  |
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| Ftse down again this morning on 10:45 - Dec 6 with 2811 views | No9 |
| Ftse down again this morning on 10:42 - Dec 6 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Sometimes things need to fall apart before they can get fixed.....the EU hasn't exactly been falling over itself to implement Varoufakis style reforms ! #ch@os.
Frexit etc not far off now.....at least we will be ahead of the curve! |
You may not be so happy if you read the outlines of the trade deal the brexiteers want with the USA
What will you do whan the new deal cancels out any re-payments banks have to make to taxpayers when thy baillout the banks?
Heave you read it ? | | | |
| Ftse down again this morning on 10:45 - Dec 6 with 2808 views | Benters2 |
| Ftse down again this morning on 10:42 - Dec 6 by giant_stow |
Tinker |
Oh and a season ticket 🎫 | | | |
| Ftse down again this morning on 10:46 - Dec 6 with 2805 views | StokieBlue |
| Ftse down again this morning on 10:43 - Dec 6 by footers |
Do you always think in spoonfed stereotypes? Stupid question but thought it might be worth an ask. |
It's not his fault, he's done it so often there is only one pathway through the required neurons.
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| Ftse down again this morning on 10:46 - Dec 6 with 2799 views | footers |
| Ftse down again this morning on 10:43 - Dec 6 by Benters2 |
They could save like I had too.
5 years me and my good lady saved for a deposit.
In that time I stopped drinking didn’t smoke anything or get any tattoos done either. |
What an incredible story of bravery and sacrifice... saving to buy a home in an affordable market with good liquidity. We'll never see the likes of you again, Benters. | |
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| Ftse down again this morning on 10:47 - Dec 6 with 2796 views | Benters2 |
| Ftse down again this morning on 10:41 - Dec 6 by Withnail |
But I'm entitled to a house!! It's my hooman right!1! |
Bloody right innit | | | |
| Ftse down again this morning on 10:47 - Dec 6 with 2796 views | No9 |
The gamblers = Fund Managers et al (including Rees-Mogg & Redwood) are making a fortune out of these fluctuations. | | | |
| Ftse down again this morning on 10:47 - Dec 6 with 2793 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Ftse down again this morning on 10:45 - Dec 6 by No9 |
You may not be so happy if you read the outlines of the trade deal the brexiteers want with the USA
What will you do whan the new deal cancels out any re-payments banks have to make to taxpayers when thy baillout the banks?
Heave you read it ? |
Well vote them out then and/or go a bit French! | |
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| Ftse down again this morning on 10:47 - Dec 6 with 2792 views | DanTheMan |
| Ftse down again this morning on 10:43 - Dec 6 by Benters2 |
They could save like I had too.
5 years me and my good lady saved for a deposit.
In that time I stopped drinking didn’t smoke anything or get any tattoos done either. |
Oh wow, what a great idea! They could just save money! I'm sure they didn't think of that.
Why if they quit drinking for a few months they'd have it. Its not like deposits are usually around 10 grand when you have to pay high rents.
And that's without having to pay for all the other bits and pieces like lawyers.
It's definitely not like just this week there was a study showing that a high number of younger people buying houses have to rely on their parents to help with the deposit.
I know it's hard for you but try actually engaging your brain once In a while. | |
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| Ftse down again this morning on 10:47 - Dec 6 with 2794 views | BloomBlue |
If you looked at the evidence pre the vote you would have seen one of the benefits brexit would bring was affordable housing - a major benefit for the country. Unfortunately remainers are rich and privilege and only interested in the value of their own home. |  | | |
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