| Evans mentioning Huddersfield as an example 14:07 - Apr 25 with 3830 views | TractorJack |
So Huddersfield managed to get promoted without parachute payments or big investment.
He also mentions Millwall being in the play-offs, which is already out of date after Derby won last night. As well as Preston and Brentford, so 3 teams which realistically aren't going to get promoted this season.
Can anyone think of other examples like Huddersfield over the last 5/6 years?
Not knocking the principles of the plan but the chances of it achieving promotion seem so slim. |  | | |  |
| Evans mentioning Huddersfield as an example on 14:09 - Apr 25 with 3798 views | Kieran_Knows |
Maybe he was talking more of the set up they had in place there .... Foreign manager working with a 'DoF/Football Operations' above him. |  |
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| Evans mentioning Huddersfield as an example on 14:09 - Apr 25 with 3795 views | Herbivore |
Burnley the first time they went up under Dyche? That's about it though. We do at least have a top class academy in our favour. [Post edited 25 Apr 2018 14:10]
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| Evans mentioning Huddersfield as an example on 14:10 - Apr 25 with 3778 views | benno1uk |
Blackpool can't have had much money when they got promoted. |  | | |
| Evans mentioning Huddersfield as an example on 14:10 - Apr 25 with 3775 views | Bluefish |
A new example like Millwall comes out every season, there is always 1 side that has a great at the play offs without a big budget. It was us a few years ago but i can't think of any that consistently challenge without a big budget. Huddersfield were lucky that they went up or they would have probably struggled again after. |  |
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| Evans mentioning Huddersfield as an example on 14:20 - Apr 25 with 3705 views | itfcjoe |
| Evans mentioning Huddersfield as an example on 14:10 - Apr 25 by Bluefish |
A new example like Millwall comes out every season, there is always 1 side that has a great at the play offs without a big budget. It was us a few years ago but i can't think of any that consistently challenge without a big budget. Huddersfield were lucky that they went up or they would have probably struggled again after. |
Us and Brentford are the 2 that have consistently been there or thereabouts for a few seasons - but have achieved it in very different approaches |  |
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| Evans mentioning Huddersfield as an example on 14:25 - Apr 25 with 3655 views | Bluefish |
| Evans mentioning Huddersfield as an example on 14:20 - Apr 25 by itfcjoe |
Us and Brentford are the 2 that have consistently been there or thereabouts for a few seasons - but have achieved it in very different approaches |
But neither have managed to push 2015 as you have expected. This league is very very tough, without a big budget you need things to fall into place. We've had some shocking injuries in key areas at bad times. Weve also seen a terrible net loss in refereeing decisions. Derby get penalties every week. We just have them against us | |
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| Evans mentioning Huddersfield as an example on 14:25 - Apr 25 with 3655 views | TractorJack |
| Evans mentioning Huddersfield as an example on 14:20 - Apr 25 by itfcjoe |
Us and Brentford are the 2 that have consistently been there or thereabouts for a few seasons - but have achieved it in very different approaches |
I'd be happy enough challenging for the play-offs whilst bringing through kids and playing decent football it's just that Evans' end goal is promotion and I'm surprised he thinks it's feasible with so few examples. | | | |
| Evans mentioning Huddersfield as an example on 14:26 - Apr 25 with 3657 views | footers |
One of MM's best qualities as a manager was being both tight-lipped and tight-fisted. Our perception as a 'poor' club gives us much better leverage in the market than announcing a war-chest. Now, I'm not saying we're big spenders, although we spend a fair whack on wages, but this perception and approach could be very shrewd.
Or maybe I'm just talking b0llocks.
Either way, the biggest proportional investment has usually been in the manager. If we can pay someone decent dosh to make a purse out of a sow's ear, that's where our focus should be. [Post edited 25 Apr 2018 14:26]
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| Evans mentioning Huddersfield as an example on 23:31 - Apr 25 with 3358 views | BrightonEye |
Neither of the 2nd and 3rd placed teams last season had parachute payments. |  | | |
| Evans mentioning Huddersfield as an example on 23:51 - Apr 25 with 3325 views | TheBlueBarca |
| Evans mentioning Huddersfield as an example on 14:20 - Apr 25 by itfcjoe |
Us and Brentford are the 2 that have consistently been there or thereabouts for a few seasons - but have achieved it in very different approaches |
There or thereabouts? We were 4 points off drop last season and could finish even lower this season! |  |
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| Evans mentioning Huddersfield as an example on 07:08 - Apr 26 with 3185 views | christiand |
The fact is, everyone finds at least 'one' example to justify their argument for all topics of discussion, same on here most days. Thought ME came across well, but as he said the Championship has changed a lot since he first took over 10 years ago, but his investment remains pretty static. Not sure how that is going to reap the benefits of promotion even with him royally supporting his 5 point plan? | |
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| Evans mentioning Huddersfield as an example on 07:19 - Apr 26 with 3147 views | Radlett_blue |
| Evans mentioning Huddersfield as an example on 14:25 - Apr 25 by TractorJack |
I'd be happy enough challenging for the play-offs whilst bringing through kids and playing decent football it's just that Evans' end goal is promotion and I'm surprised he thinks it's feasible with so few examples. |
"Evans's end goal is promotion"?
It was when he bought the club, but now that the sums required to produce a realistic chance of promotion are so large, it isn't a realistic goal. I don't blame him for not saying that in public as he would be pilloried. Most football fans are by nature optimists. |  |
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| Evans mentioning Huddersfield as an example on 07:22 - Apr 26 with 3135 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Evans mentioning Huddersfield as an example on 23:31 - Apr 25 by BrightonEye |
Neither of the 2nd and 3rd placed teams last season had parachute payments. |
“Or big investment”
Lovely stadium btw |  |
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| Evans mentioning Huddersfield as an example on 07:23 - Apr 26 with 3128 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Evans mentioning Huddersfield as an example on 14:26 - Apr 25 by footers |
One of MM's best qualities as a manager was being both tight-lipped and tight-fisted. Our perception as a 'poor' club gives us much better leverage in the market than announcing a war-chest. Now, I'm not saying we're big spenders, although we spend a fair whack on wages, but this perception and approach could be very shrewd.
Or maybe I'm just talking b0llocks.
Either way, the biggest proportional investment has usually been in the manager. If we can pay someone decent dosh to make a purse out of a sow's ear, that's where our focus should be. [Post edited 25 Apr 2018 14:26]
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We don’t spend a fair whack on wages though, relatively speaking
The fact people seem to have swallowed that hook line and sinker is hilarious, when one look at our accounts compared to other teams in the league reveals the opposite | |
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| Evans mentioning Huddersfield as an example on 08:48 - Apr 26 with 3031 views | GeoffSentence |
| Evans mentioning Huddersfield as an example on 14:25 - Apr 25 by Bluefish |
But neither have managed to push 2015 as you have expected. This league is very very tough, without a big budget you need things to fall into place. We've had some shocking injuries in key areas at bad times. Weve also seen a terrible net loss in refereeing decisions. Derby get penalties every week. We just have them against us |
The net loss in refereeing decisions is a consequence of our style of play. To have a penalty awarded to you, you need to be in the opposition penalty area, something that we don't often do during the course of a match.
Hopefully that will change now though, if we get a positive thinking manager we may get some of those decisions go our way. |  |
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| Evans mentioning Huddersfield as an example on 09:57 - Apr 26 with 2939 views | Herbivore |
| Evans mentioning Huddersfield as an example on 08:48 - Apr 26 by GeoffSentence |
The net loss in refereeing decisions is a consequence of our style of play. To have a penalty awarded to you, you need to be in the opposition penalty area, something that we don't often do during the course of a match.
Hopefully that will change now though, if we get a positive thinking manager we may get some of those decisions go our way. |
That theory doesn't explain the handball we weren't given against QPR or Waghorn being clipped from behind against Millwall. Those are just two that spring to mind that were far better penalty shouts than the ones given against us at Brentford and Birmingham. Then you have Loovens somehow staying on the pitch after a horror challenge on Didz that sidelined him for a month. We've not had the rub of the green with decisions at all this season. | |
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| Evans mentioning Huddersfield as an example on 10:55 - Apr 26 with 2874 views | itfcjoe |
| Evans mentioning Huddersfield as an example on 09:57 - Apr 26 by Herbivore |
That theory doesn't explain the handball we weren't given against QPR or Waghorn being clipped from behind against Millwall. Those are just two that spring to mind that were far better penalty shouts than the ones given against us at Brentford and Birmingham. Then you have Loovens somehow staying on the pitch after a horror challenge on Didz that sidelined him for a month. We've not had the rub of the green with decisions at all this season. |
But we are probably the team that touches the ball least frequently in the opposition area so whilst we've not had rub of green if you aren't buying tickets you won't win the lottery | |
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