May on 5 Live 10:44 - Jul 13 with 16778 views | BelvedereBrunswick |
Even in this, her most humane interview for months, it still doesn't resonate with me. Who were you crying for? Yourself or the millions destined for worse living conditions? I thought she won the election? | | | | |
May on 5 Live on 10:49 - Jul 13 with 7076 views | StokieBlue | I think even we can agree on this one. She's totally rubbish and no good for the country. Doesn't mean I want and agree with JC but May shouldn't be leading the country either. Unfortunately there seems to be a lack of real challengers to her position (and if she was replaced I think there should be another election anyway). SB | |
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May on 5 Live on 10:57 - Jul 13 with 7053 views | BelvedereBrunswick |
May on 5 Live on 10:49 - Jul 13 by StokieBlue | I think even we can agree on this one. She's totally rubbish and no good for the country. Doesn't mean I want and agree with JC but May shouldn't be leading the country either. Unfortunately there seems to be a lack of real challengers to her position (and if she was replaced I think there should be another election anyway). SB |
Yes - although I think Davis, Gove, Hammond and Johnson's leadership campaigns are already underway. Luckily for all of us, none of them stand a chance. Right now Leadsome, Rudd or a complete backbench coup seems more realistic. Whoever it is of course will be become the leader of the opposition pretty sharpish once JC wins the general election at the end of the year. | | | |
May on 5 Live on 10:59 - Jul 13 with 7036 views | hype313 |
May on 5 Live on 10:57 - Jul 13 by BelvedereBrunswick | Yes - although I think Davis, Gove, Hammond and Johnson's leadership campaigns are already underway. Luckily for all of us, none of them stand a chance. Right now Leadsome, Rudd or a complete backbench coup seems more realistic. Whoever it is of course will be become the leader of the opposition pretty sharpish once JC wins the general election at the end of the year. |
Which is why I can't see a leadership challenge from anyone in the Tory party anytime soon. | |
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May on 5 Live on 11:01 - Jul 13 with 7028 views | Swansea_Blue |
May on 5 Live on 10:49 - Jul 13 by StokieBlue | I think even we can agree on this one. She's totally rubbish and no good for the country. Doesn't mean I want and agree with JC but May shouldn't be leading the country either. Unfortunately there seems to be a lack of real challengers to her position (and if she was replaced I think there should be another election anyway). SB |
Arise Sir Nigel... | |
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May on 5 Live on 11:02 - Jul 13 with 7022 views | BelvedereBrunswick |
May on 5 Live on 10:59 - Jul 13 by hype313 | Which is why I can't see a leadership challenge from anyone in the Tory party anytime soon. |
Not an official one. Just lots of underhand long-game personal agenda campaigns already underway. | | | |
May on 5 Live on 11:03 - Jul 13 with 7019 views | hype313 |
May on 5 Live on 11:02 - Jul 13 by BelvedereBrunswick | Not an official one. Just lots of underhand long-game personal agenda campaigns already underway. |
That's standard for any party at any time though, I'm sure there are people jostling for Corbyn's gig and making moves. | |
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May on 5 Live on 11:07 - Jul 13 with 7000 views | BOjK |
May on 5 Live on 11:03 - Jul 13 by hype313 | That's standard for any party at any time though, I'm sure there are people jostling for Corbyn's gig and making moves. |
Not at the moment. | |
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May on 5 Live on 11:08 - Jul 13 with 6996 views | BelvedereBrunswick |
May on 5 Live on 11:03 - Jul 13 by hype313 | That's standard for any party at any time though, I'm sure there are people jostling for Corbyn's gig and making moves. |
Haha yeah good one. | | | |
May on 5 Live on 11:08 - Jul 13 with 6998 views | BOjK | She also apparently denied considering resigning. Which must be a flat-out lie. She doesn't help herself sometimes. | |
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May on 5 Live on 11:09 - Jul 13 with 6992 views | hype313 |
Ok then. | |
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May on 5 Live on 11:19 - Jul 13 with 6956 views | Guthrum |
May on 5 Live on 10:49 - Jul 13 by StokieBlue | I think even we can agree on this one. She's totally rubbish and no good for the country. Doesn't mean I want and agree with JC but May shouldn't be leading the country either. Unfortunately there seems to be a lack of real challengers to her position (and if she was replaced I think there should be another election anyway). SB |
I'm pretty sure that the next leaders of both the largest parties will come from outside the current list of suggested front runners. The likes of Gove, Johnson, Abbott, McDonnell, Watson et al are all are tarnished by perceived lack of competence, back-stabbing, performance on Brexit, being too loyal to current/previous leaders (or too disloyal), etc. Think we're going to see more out-of-the-blue/left-field candidates being successful (e.g. Cameron, Corbyn). | |
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May on 5 Live on 11:21 - Jul 13 with 6943 views | xrayspecs |
May on 5 Live on 11:19 - Jul 13 by Guthrum | I'm pretty sure that the next leaders of both the largest parties will come from outside the current list of suggested front runners. The likes of Gove, Johnson, Abbott, McDonnell, Watson et al are all are tarnished by perceived lack of competence, back-stabbing, performance on Brexit, being too loyal to current/previous leaders (or too disloyal), etc. Think we're going to see more out-of-the-blue/left-field candidates being successful (e.g. Cameron, Corbyn). |
Kier Starmer for Labour Tories is less obvious | | | |
May on 5 Live on 11:22 - Jul 13 with 6942 views | BOjK |
May on 5 Live on 11:19 - Jul 13 by Guthrum | I'm pretty sure that the next leaders of both the largest parties will come from outside the current list of suggested front runners. The likes of Gove, Johnson, Abbott, McDonnell, Watson et al are all are tarnished by perceived lack of competence, back-stabbing, performance on Brexit, being too loyal to current/previous leaders (or too disloyal), etc. Think we're going to see more out-of-the-blue/left-field candidates being successful (e.g. Cameron, Corbyn). |
Nobody is seriously suggesting that Gove, Abbott, McDonnell or Watston are possible successors and Johnson's star is fading fast. If there is a contest soon I imagine that David Davis will takeover for the Tories. | |
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May on 5 Live on 11:22 - Jul 13 with 6940 views | mutters |
May on 5 Live on 10:49 - Jul 13 by StokieBlue | I think even we can agree on this one. She's totally rubbish and no good for the country. Doesn't mean I want and agree with JC but May shouldn't be leading the country either. Unfortunately there seems to be a lack of real challengers to her position (and if she was replaced I think there should be another election anyway). SB |
With you on this one. Its not JC that worries me, more the rest of his gang that i am worried about than him. May needs to go, and she will when the time is right for the Tory party. I'd imagine early next year would be the time for a few reasons. | |
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May on 5 Live on 11:24 - Jul 13 with 6931 views | BelvedereBrunswick |
May on 5 Live on 11:21 - Jul 13 by xrayspecs | Kier Starmer for Labour Tories is less obvious |
I do think he's great. No JC though. | | | |
May on 5 Live on 11:30 - Jul 13 with 6901 views | Guthrum |
May on 5 Live on 11:21 - Jul 13 by xrayspecs | Kier Starmer for Labour Tories is less obvious |
I've also heard Stephen Kinnock's name mentioned. | |
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May on 5 Live on 11:33 - Jul 13 with 6886 views | xrayspecs |
May on 5 Live on 11:21 - Jul 13 by xrayspecs | Kier Starmer for Labour Tories is less obvious |
The problem for Labour is the extreme left have effectively taken over the party, so even if they got rid of Corbyn, I can not see them replacing him with a more mainstream candidate. In an odd way, Corbyn may be their most moderate option. | | | |
May on 5 Live on 11:37 - Jul 13 with 6879 views | Guthrum |
May on 5 Live on 11:22 - Jul 13 by BOjK | Nobody is seriously suggesting that Gove, Abbott, McDonnell or Watston are possible successors and Johnson's star is fading fast. If there is a contest soon I imagine that David Davis will takeover for the Tories. |
Not so sure about Davis. He's tried and failed before, don't get the impression he's very popular in the Party. Also he's 68, getting a little long in the tooth to lead the Conservatives into an election maybe five years hence (or to complete a full term if sooner). | |
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May on 5 Live on 11:37 - Jul 13 with 6878 views | BelvedereBrunswick |
May on 5 Live on 11:33 - Jul 13 by xrayspecs | The problem for Labour is the extreme left have effectively taken over the party, so even if they got rid of Corbyn, I can not see them replacing him with a more mainstream candidate. In an odd way, Corbyn may be their most moderate option. |
I think it's more that it was taken over by closet Tories in the 90s | | | |
May on 5 Live on 11:41 - Jul 13 with 6860 views | GlasgowBlue |
May on 5 Live on 11:07 - Jul 13 by BOjK | Not at the moment. |
Clive Lewis was on manoeuvres before the election and had the support of Owen Jones but that has been put on the back burner. | |
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May on 5 Live on 11:41 - Jul 13 with 6861 views | BOjK |
May on 5 Live on 11:21 - Jul 13 by xrayspecs | Kier Starmer for Labour Tories is less obvious |
Starmer has many strengths. He's obviously hugely intelligent and a massive asset to the Labour party (when they haven't got many). The whispers are that he's not politically smart enough and isn't good enough at putting the Tories under pressure. If you added 20% of George Osborne to him he'd be a very strong candidate. I'm also not convinced he's a good enough communicator. Edit: Finally he's surprisingly short. Which is never a good thing. [Post edited 13 Jul 2017 11:41]
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May on 5 Live on 11:41 - Jul 13 with 6856 views | BlueBadger | Apparently that tear burnt through 2 floors and a local party activist. | |
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May on 5 Live on 11:43 - Jul 13 with 6838 views | BOjK |
May on 5 Live on 11:41 - Jul 13 by GlasgowBlue | Clive Lewis was on manoeuvres before the election and had the support of Owen Jones but that has been put on the back burner. |
Yes. The election has changed everything at the top of the party. And not necessarily for the better. | |
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May on 5 Live on 11:44 - Jul 13 with 6833 views | BOjK |
May on 5 Live on 11:37 - Jul 13 by BelvedereBrunswick | I think it's more that it was taken over by closet Tories in the 90s |
You'll be wrong then. | |
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