The next David Johnson. (i hope)

Len Brennan - I take your point to a degree, but you've named 4 players form the last 20 years. How about other players we've signed or loaned in that time from Championship sides. Gleeson, Paul Green, Chopra, Ellington, Ingarmarson, Hunt, Tabb. I'm sure i or others could go on could go on, we have had plenty! But look at players we have signed from lower leagues. David Johnson, Bart, Cresswell, Walters, Webster, Sears (for a while) Mings, Holland. I agree there have also been a few misses - Paul Taylor, Parkin, Wordsworth.

My feeling is, I would always prefer a lower league player, who is on the up, and has something to prove, but everyone has their own opinion, but players on an upward curve would be my preference. Now lets hope we get Tilt!

@DJ27
You are of course right in what you say, and to be fair it's a very balanced post.
The reason i chose those 4 named players (over the last 20 years!) was in direct response to the other 4 named players of yore chosen to make a different point.
My opinion is that we need both those with something to prove & those who are proven in order to get the balance right.
Totally agree on Tilt.

Thanks Len - I think the excitement of a lower league player for me as to an experienced player is the potential of the player is unknown. We could have the next Vardy or Dele Alli, until they are tested higher up we will never know, so it is always a gamble. And players valued between 500k and £1m appear to be our market moving forward. Some will be a hit and make the Club money and some will fall by the wayside, as it appears Rowe may have. I think we have good Championship experience in the Squad, with Bart, Waggy, Skuse, Sears, Garner, Knudsen, Chambo, Spence, Ward, (Huws and Adeymei when fit.

I suspect Sears and Garner may well be moved on, but who knows. So i think a few up and coming players could make a good mix to an all ready relatively experienced squad.

Happy days! this is a good signing I like the way that we are injecting pace into the squad if we sign Tilt then that gives us much needed pace in central defence now all that we need is someone with pace in the defensive midfield, I'm pleased to see us sign young hungry players and for once beating other clubs to their signatures(makes a change from before when players didn't want to come and play stagnant football and hold their careers back!! hence all the loans who wanted an easy pay day) so we are building a squad that could surprise a few this season after all a squad of players quite a lot of whom learnt their trade in the lower leagues have just finished 4th in the world cup.

Great news. Must address the defence now. Then replace anyone who leaves.

Len I disagree, good players are good players.

What we are signing is young players with potential, proven at lower league and now looking for the step up not 32 yr old that have never made it beyond league 1.

Doed it gaurenfee success, no, does it mean they won't be a success, no.

Some on here seem to suggest that signing a league 1 player means they are not good enough, wrong. They either are or are not. To suggest it is the case is a very glib interpretation.

That's my point. These lads are young or comming into what should be there prime, quick and looking to make a Mark. They are players that each of the club's wanted to keep and players that other Champ clubs also wanted so I'd suggest that in that instance why should we automatically say they are not good enough.

Equally it's not just about the player but the team, as Sir Alex said "I don't always pick the best players but I always pick the best team", only time will tell if the sum of the parts becomes a good team or squad.

Finally we, at present have a core of Chapmionship experience.

Bart
Spence
Knudsons
Chambers
Huwys
Skuse
Ward
Sears
Garner
Waghorn

That's almost an entire team, all have solid Champ experience so it's hardly that we are crying out for it. Yes maybe some of those players will move on but woukd you rather have "trusty" nuisance Garns (Who I like) or "Pact (some might say exciting) Harrison? If the former perhaps Mick should have stayed in charge.

Perhaps i didn't make my point as well as I would have liked the first time. To be clear

Just because a player comes from league 1 or 2 does not mean that they are not good enough for the championship

Adding a few, promising (after all what have Everton shelled out £20 million on Maddison for, promise, potential, little else) from those leagues does not in itself spell disaster (nor promtion or anything else)

Will all our signings work out, no, if most do that will be good.

And whilst perhaps "proven" (unintentionally missed from my prior post) champ players do have more chance of being a success than the type of player described above, I bet those percentages are not as skewed as you think.

Players from all leagues fail for various reasons, plenty of young players from Prem sides have to drop down to L1 or 2, most players work there way up, few start at the top and stay thers so whilst I do take your point I think mine stands and some on here are oversimplifying.

*suggest it is the case that a L1 OR 2 player is the case

Thanks for your condescending response Len, much appreciated.

To clarify, your original post referred to ‘proven Championship quality' and your subsequent response to me referred to an ‘experienced Championship player' and there is a massive difference between the two.

So, to reiterate, we will not be purchasing any ‘proven Championship quality' players anytime soon, regardless of who we sell in the meantime because we simply cannot afford to do so... be that due to the transfer fee required or the wages desired.

Proven Championship quality... Tom Ince... over 200 appearances in the Championship consistently scoring 1 in 3, spread over several years, for multiple clubs. That is a player with proven Championship quality... Initial transfer fee of £10m, rising to £12m, and god knows what his wages are.