What on earth is PJ thinking about? Edwards is certainally no defender who keeps getting caught out of position far to often.Also can't make out why the electronic board used by the fourth official has no number 6 or 9 on it. How on earth Leadboots and Jet managed to stay on the pitch for 90 plus minutes only he will know. Can't get my head around the idea of subbing Martin and Murphy who I thought were 2 of our better players today.

Surely the time is up PJ!

lincolnshireblue - you are obviously one of the 'all too nice' Ipswich fans - ever thought that with too many thinking like you, it becomes the 'cozy club' it is - players needn't perform, success is not necessary, no expectations etc; Thus the 'powers that be' can laugh all the way to the bank without undue concern.

Because (in your own words) you, and like minded people will always be there, and always cough up. Others you must appreciate - have more ambition and expect more.

With regard to the Manager, Who would you have and be sensible about it. There is no one of quality out there who we could either afford or who would want to come here to do the job .
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Anyone from league 1 doing well would be a massive improvement.

lincolnshireblue - maybe you're not so nice after reading your description of 'depressed' - not necessary that.

I have been travelling over from Ireland since 1968 to watch Town, by beloved Town and never in my life have I seen such a woeful Ipswich Town side as I did today. I have suffered a lot of abuse from my friends in Ireland as many of them support Mun Utd, Liverpool, Celtic etc, but Ipswich are my team and always will be. I am making an appeal tp the manager to do the decent thing and walk away tomorrow. I find it difficult to understand why he brought in so many ``has beens'' and indeed ``never has beens''. He has brought our once proud club to its knees. Paul Jewell was out of the game for to long when he was appointed manager. He is living in the past. Hopefully he will do the right thing and walk tomorrow, because if not we are heading to Division One.

Leadboots back, our captain and leader and 2 defeats! Had he played against barnsley and Derby I think we would have lost those.

So, forest do the double over us scoring 6 goals and we have also lost to doncaster and milwall who are below us.

Next up, Birmingham away, blackpool home, Leeds away and west ham home. That is a worry.

Given the decisions made by Evans in sacking magilton, bringing in keane then jewell, if jewell goes i am worried who we he will bring in.

Last time would have gone for Chris hughton, this time would go for curbs and Holland.

Ps, who amongst all those coaches is a defensive coach? God knows what they do in training.

lincolnshire... i applaud your true support, some people seem to think you only support a winning team,,, they are the followers who live to moan... where would a team be without its true supporters...coyb

Evans. Show yourself. Start showing some leadership now. Dispense with the services of Jewell, Hutchings, McCarthy & Clegg NOW. If not, will the last person to leave please turn out the lights.

Another point is that ticket prices are beginning to get well out of hand!!!
We are not going to be able to attract new fans if football like that is going to be served up and they are having to pay £36 per ticket - I wouldn't want to pay that much to watch half of the Premier League's teams let alone a struggling team in the Championship which never plays well at home!!!

Dissboyitfc & lincolnshireblue - get a Hotel room! :)

I'm not a season ticket holder, live to far away but even if I didn't I wouldn't get a season ticket, in these financial times to watch such inept football (saw the games against Hull, Doncaster and Derby) is saddening and I can't afford to throw £400 odd quid away and be depressed by it ( I can do that by watching Eastenders for free), I've supported the Town since 1975 and John Duncan's era pales into insignificance compared to this team and football and the clubs in the bigger leagues and their expectations have changed dramatically even since the late 80's. Not everybody can be winners but unfortunately we're not even mediocre nowdays with all the money put into the squad. New Year let's ring in the changes!

TimmyH.. why the dig?,, i agree with you i cant always afford to go, these are tough financial times for most of us, i was merely applauding the guys undying support, the same way i applaud those who watch everygame home and away .. true supporters....coyb

i recall some users calling this disaster early doors, if only muppet clowno jewell listened ... pmason .... nosamp etc ...

JEWELL OUT JEWELL OUT JEWELL OUT JEWELL OUT JEWELL OUT JEWELL OUT JEWELL OUT JEWELL OUT JEWELL OUT JEWELL OUT JEWELL OUT JEWELL OUT

Unless something is done and done soon, we could, quite realistically next season, be playing the likes of Crawley, Cheltenham and Southend should they go up and we continue to sink towards oblivion.

If the thought of that is not sobering enough I don't know what else could be. Please
ME, it's time to remove Jewell and get Clegg to focus on the Olympics. Before it's too late would be good too please

I like the guy but i just feel its time for Paul Jewell to leave, its a good time to get a fresh face in with fresh new young players...the whole club needs a bit of a re-vamp

This time last year, when Roy Keane was sacked, we were 19th with a goal difference of -6 and 28 points. Tonight we're 19th with a goal difference of -13 and 27 points. Tomorrow, after Bristol City have played Millwall, we have to drop to 20th, whatever the score in that game. Where is the improvement over the last 12 months? What has the change of management achieved?

Our club is performing poorly, it's very sad. However, my thoughts are with Gary Ablett's family for his untimely death. He spent a bit of time at our club, maybe we should think of things that are more important in life. RIP Gary.

has he walked yet ??????

I'm really beginning to believe we will get relegated this season, can't believe I'm saying it...then see we've been linked with signing Alan Smith from Newcastle OMG, what the hell is going on??
If we are going down, lets do it with a team full of players that care, maybe youngsters. I know we have signed many players but look at Charlton, 21 players in and going very well under a good young manager who cares with a passion about the club...there's a clue there somewhere Messrs Evans and Clegg
FFS Sort it out b4 it's too late!!!!

This probably is the worst side we've had since the end of the Robson golden era. Although the Forster (not actually his fault, injuries/age) - Parkin frontline comes to mind. We've even played really well at times (West Ham away, Brighton at home). But we've also been so poor, so often. I no longer believe Jewell or his staff have any impact over whether we're good, bad or indifferent. If you were starting from scratch which of our players would you pick even for a decent championship side - let alone dreaming of the premiership? Barely any of them! It's time to do what we should have done in the first place find a young ambitious passing manager and build a team.

What a con trick Roy Keane, and now Paul Jewell have pulled on Clegg and Evans. In three catastrophic years ITFC has been been turned into a gravy train for joy riding wannabe managers, chancers who think there is no self-damage in splashing someone else's cash and gambling on high salary, veteran players for a chance at big time glory. Utterly short-sighted and self-serving. Our owners have to face it now, they have been led up the garden path twice. Another sequel to this sorry saga could be devastating. We must target young managers with genuine passion and drive to succeed for those around them, not only themselves, who DESERVE to be and belong in the Premier League, in the mould of Paul Lambert (who Clegg stunningly failed to recruit, despite him being under his nose), Brendan Rogers or Roberto Martinez. Dare I say it, but with Clegg at the helm, we are going to end up with Neil Warnock next. Lee Clark has the geordie connection the club has thrived on in the past, Gus Poyet would be a fantastic character in the Premier League, or how about Nigel Clough? Someone to represent ITFC and its meaning to so many people. I'm sick of this current situation, and seeing it go on is nauseating.

Just looked back on that 2007/2008 season when we had the best home record in the league. Where did all that go...

Having read all this I first want to talk about today's game. I don't often get to see the team because of university, but I'm there as often as I'm home and go to away matches when I can and today, compared to the last forest game, I felt fairly entertained. Our problems came from a few too many terrible individual errors from only a handful of players.

There is no escaping that our centre backs were awful. If I had defended like Delaney for the second goal for my team I would have been pulled straight off by my coach, for that alone he deserves to never play for the club again, unfortunately he plays far to often and costs us far too much. Had Sonko been available, I'm not sure we'd have conceded any of those three goals. Murphy and Chopra were also a complete waste of space. Neither looked like they'd have scored had we played on until friday. It's been a while since I've seen so many chances ruined. Murphy's two far post attempts, JET's free header from 6 yards, no one on the end of countless crosses and a few good chances for chopra to latch onto something if he'd just tried a bit harder (such as Martin's scuffed shot).

Otherwise they barely threatened. They had the first half of the first half, the first 10 of the second with all of those corners and what was effectively a counter attack against the run of play for the third goal. Otherwise most the game was played in their half. I expected Leadbitter to be poor, but he was surprisingly solid. He's not captain material, but he starts a lot of moves, had a couple of shots and scored his penalty, lucky or not. Drury looked decent, Martin and Edwards were causing lots of problems down the right (until Martin switched over and caused all the problems on the left) and JET also looked decent. His shot against the bar, causing a good save from range, two or three dangerous crosses, I think he looked lively. His touch wasn't always there and his style of play is peculair, but he looked dangerous and their inability to deal with him was highlighted by him winning the penalty out of nothing. Had we scored our chances and had Sonko at the back but put in the same performance, we'd have all said they played well. The team were let down by individuals today. I guess there question is when are our defenders going to stop costing us goals and when will the likes of Chopra decide to get interested again. I don't know, but Jewell needs to be seriously worried, and judging by his interview, I think he is.

Also, let's talk about age. ALB - played well, young for a keeper. Edwards, older than 30 but I think had a solid game, perhaps a better winger but I think we could do a lot worse. Ingy - poor and old, but definitely intended as cover. Delaney - poor, poor, poor but in his prime. Cresswell, average, but young and learning. Murphy, poor imo but in his prime. Bowyer, old, fine. Leadbitter, did well for me, in his prime. Drury, did well, mid 20s. JET, did well, especially considering he is young, inexperianced and rarely in the team, cut the guy some slack! Chopra, in his prime, was poor. Carson, okay, young. Martin, good, in his prime. Ellington, old, but looked fairly sharp. We didn't really play a bunch of old has beens today, and we still lost. SO let's not pretend age is the issue here...

In summary, it was a poor result but not an awful game. Had we scored first I think we'd have won. Had we had Sonko we'd have probably won. Had JET's shot gone in we may have picked up. It's fine margins, we've just seen too many of these games where we should have had a result. We need to see results, I know that, I just think we're closer than we think to them.

Let's give Jewell January, there's all this talk about what he needs to do. But by the time we sack him and find a manager (and there is no guarentee a) of getting someone like curbs or b) that the replacement will be any better, we thought it couldn't get worse than Jim, or Keane, and it did) we won't have a January to buy anyone anymore! We need to sign andrews, his goals and general play is always missed when he isn't in the side. We need him whatever the cost and make him captain, please! If there really is a chance for sharp then go for it! We need a striker who is going to score us some goals, none of them look capable! Otherwise, we need two centre halves, far more than a new right back. Don't care who they are, Jewell enquired over players such as Ibanez, Ferdinand, Woodgate and Upson and he needs to do the same, unless we get a top quality centre back, not just someone who's alright, remotely proven, or up and coming, we won't progress. We need someone who's going to take this team by the scruff of the neck and even if it is an old 'has-been'.

Marcus Evans, in other words, needs to get his wallet out. We were promised the wickham money would go on the squad. And it has to. I know it's not as black and white as this. But the board since Evans arrived have appointed managers who aren't up to the task and their money has been completely wasted. It's time to see it put to good use or, to my mind, I'd rather see them all walk and start completely again from the top down. A simple sacking and replacing of a manager will not simply solve all our problems. Jewell has to take the blame, but I still think he can turn this, with a bit of luck, confidence, and three or four new signings.

Did not go to the game; a matter of distance being 12 hour by flight and all that. So I could not say based on the game itself but purely from the perspective of results.

This being a results game (yes, one can have so many misses, hits on bar/uprights/woodward, MoM performance by the opponents' GK etc but that would not count as to who gets promoted or relegated), and based on the results for the first half of the season, PJ would do real well, and honourably at that, by gracefully leaving the club.

At the very least, he would be remembered as one who is not afraid to let go a job he knows he had failed to do it up to the high standards he purported to have set himself...

Jewell out