| HWFG - Moore 09:01 - Feb 1 with 3765 views | SitfcB |
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| HWFG - Moore on 09:18 - Feb 1 with 2941 views | WeirdFishes |
I’m not excited / happy as others at the prospect of signing Moore but beggars can’t be choosers at this time. |  |
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| HWFG - Moore on 09:20 - Feb 1 with 2878 views | ITFCBlues |
| HWFG - Moore on 09:18 - Feb 1 by WeirdFishes |
I’m not excited / happy as others at the prospect of signing Moore but beggars can’t be choosers at this time. |
Who were you expecting? |  |
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| HWFG - Moore on 09:25 - Feb 1 with 2768 views | smithy69 |
| HWFG - Moore on 09:18 - Feb 1 by WeirdFishes |
I’m not excited / happy as others at the prospect of signing Moore but beggars can’t be choosers at this time. |
Imagine not being excited about a premier league striker who has scored 9 in 38 appearances for
His country and over a 100 goals at club level
The mind boggles |  | | |
| HWFG - Moore on 09:31 - Feb 1 with 2596 views | Kieran_Knows |
| HWFG - Moore on 09:25 - Feb 1 by smithy69 |
Imagine not being excited about a premier league striker who has scored 9 in 38 appearances for
His country and over a 100 goals at club level
The mind boggles |
Why can't people feel a little underwhelmed, just because of those stats?
The fact of the matter is, he will not give us what Hirst does in terms of his pressing from the front or running the channels. I don't for one minute think he is some sort of slouch, but all the times I've watched him over the past 5/6 years whether it be Bournemouth, Cardiff, Wales and whoever before them, that has never been his game.
Of course, he has all the other attributes that Hirst does, if not better - holding the ball up, bringing others in to play, hopefully getting on the end of crosses and the like in the box, but if you don't realise by now what our centre forward gives us in this system, you never will.
As others have said, it's probably needs must at this stage, and I will be really intrigued as to what KM does with him, as I can't see him changing him overnight in to this all pressing striker that we so desperately require for the system we play.
I'm happy with him, and hopefully he will have the same impact, if not better than Hirst and lets see where we are in 4 months time. [Post edited 1 Feb 9:31]
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| HWFG - Moore on 09:34 - Feb 1 with 2486 views | pointofblue |
Breaking on Sky - loan deal agreed with Getafe for Unal. | |
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| HWFG - Moore on 09:35 - Feb 1 with 2468 views | DanTheMan |
| HWFG - Moore on 09:31 - Feb 1 by Kieran_Knows |
Why can't people feel a little underwhelmed, just because of those stats?
The fact of the matter is, he will not give us what Hirst does in terms of his pressing from the front or running the channels. I don't for one minute think he is some sort of slouch, but all the times I've watched him over the past 5/6 years whether it be Bournemouth, Cardiff, Wales and whoever before them, that has never been his game.
Of course, he has all the other attributes that Hirst does, if not better - holding the ball up, bringing others in to play, hopefully getting on the end of crosses and the like in the box, but if you don't realise by now what our centre forward gives us in this system, you never will.
As others have said, it's probably needs must at this stage, and I will be really intrigued as to what KM does with him, as I can't see him changing him overnight in to this all pressing striker that we so desperately require for the system we play.
I'm happy with him, and hopefully he will have the same impact, if not better than Hirst and lets see where we are in 4 months time. [Post edited 1 Feb 9:31]
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He's an upgrade on Jackson (as much as I like him) and definitely an upgrade on Broadhead who couldn't lead the line against semi-professionals.
I do agree though on the pressing. Maybe McKenna can quickly coach him into doing that sort of thing but seems doubtful. |  |
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| HWFG - Moore on 09:39 - Feb 1 with 2318 views | smithy69 |
| HWFG - Moore on 09:35 - Feb 1 by DanTheMan |
He's an upgrade on Jackson (as much as I like him) and definitely an upgrade on Broadhead who couldn't lead the line against semi-professionals.
I do agree though on the pressing. Maybe McKenna can quickly coach him into doing that sort of thing but seems doubtful. |
I love Hirst - but I don’t think it’s unfair to say that Moore is an upgrade on Hirst
Different players with different attributes but I’ve seen so many negative things around Moore. I just don’t get it | | | |
| HWFG - Moore on 09:41 - Feb 1 with 2277 views | Kieran_Knows |
| HWFG - Moore on 09:39 - Feb 1 by smithy69 |
I love Hirst - but I don’t think it’s unfair to say that Moore is an upgrade on Hirst
Different players with different attributes but I’ve seen so many negative things around Moore. I just don’t get it |
'Different players with different attributes but I’ve seen so many negative things around Moore. I just don’t get it'
That's exactly it, isn't it? At what point have we shown a variation to our play in terms of how we press from the front? Christ, McKenna had preferred Jackson to Ladapo the past 4 months because of what Jackson gives us in terms of pressing from the front. So why all of a sudden do we think we're going to change the system to suit Moore? | |
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| HWFG - Moore on 09:42 - Feb 1 with 2243 views | pointofblue |
| HWFG - Moore on 09:41 - Feb 1 by Kieran_Knows |
'Different players with different attributes but I’ve seen so many negative things around Moore. I just don’t get it'
That's exactly it, isn't it? At what point have we shown a variation to our play in terms of how we press from the front? Christ, McKenna had preferred Jackson to Ladapo the past 4 months because of what Jackson gives us in terms of pressing from the front. So why all of a sudden do we think we're going to change the system to suit Moore? |
Out of interest, who would have preferred us to bring in over Moore? | |
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| HWFG - Moore on 09:44 - Feb 1 with 2164 views | Kieran_Knows |
| HWFG - Moore on 09:42 - Feb 1 by pointofblue |
Out of interest, who would have preferred us to bring in over Moore? |
Gallagher & Hardie are 2 that spring to mind that I would imagine would be within budget (although like with Gallagher, other factors come in to play).
But then I'm not part of the recruitment team, so what do I know? | |
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| HWFG - Moore on 09:47 - Feb 1 with 2065 views | NthQldITFC |
| HWFG - Moore on 09:31 - Feb 1 by Kieran_Knows |
Why can't people feel a little underwhelmed, just because of those stats?
The fact of the matter is, he will not give us what Hirst does in terms of his pressing from the front or running the channels. I don't for one minute think he is some sort of slouch, but all the times I've watched him over the past 5/6 years whether it be Bournemouth, Cardiff, Wales and whoever before them, that has never been his game.
Of course, he has all the other attributes that Hirst does, if not better - holding the ball up, bringing others in to play, hopefully getting on the end of crosses and the like in the box, but if you don't realise by now what our centre forward gives us in this system, you never will.
As others have said, it's probably needs must at this stage, and I will be really intrigued as to what KM does with him, as I can't see him changing him overnight in to this all pressing striker that we so desperately require for the system we play.
I'm happy with him, and hopefully he will have the same impact, if not better than Hirst and lets see where we are in 4 months time. [Post edited 1 Feb 9:31]
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I suggest we look at Moore as a (big) upgrade on Ladapo, and Al Hamadi as something of a Hirst replacement with some big unknowns (pros and cons) in his game. Al Hamadi looks like he can do the pressing (as can Jackson of course), probably not Hirst's hold up play, but potentially a bit more of a direct threat than Hirst/Jackson.
The crucial thing is that in the three of them (two of whom will almost certainly be heavily used in most games) we still have a blend of attributes, albeit slightly rebalanced from what we're used to. But I see Moore as a Ladapo replacement/upgrade more than anything, and I see KMc using his new quiver to perfection. |  |
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| HWFG - Moore on 09:48 - Feb 1 with 2042 views | pointofblue |
| HWFG - Moore on 09:44 - Feb 1 by Kieran_Knows |
Gallagher & Hardie are 2 that spring to mind that I would imagine would be within budget (although like with Gallagher, other factors come in to play).
But then I'm not part of the recruitment team, so what do I know? |
Hardie is an interesting one. Not sure if we were ever interested or if Plymouth made clear he wasn't for sale from the off.
Obviously we wanted Gallagher but Blackburn changed their mind on whether to sell. | |
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| HWFG - Moore on 09:49 - Feb 1 with 2025 views | smithy69 |
| HWFG - Moore on 09:44 - Feb 1 by Kieran_Knows |
Gallagher & Hardie are 2 that spring to mind that I would imagine would be within budget (although like with Gallagher, other factors come in to play).
But then I'm not part of the recruitment team, so what do I know? |
Gallagher is on 25k a week, has made 7 appearances and scored 1 goal this season I believe. He played well in the week - against a league 2 team
Moore over him all day long | | | |
| HWFG - Moore on 09:50 - Feb 1 with 1996 views | unbelievablue |
Moore Moore Moore, how do you like him, why don't you like him? |  |
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| HWFG - Moore on 09:50 - Feb 1 with 1980 views | Kieran_Knows |
| HWFG - Moore on 09:49 - Feb 1 by smithy69 |
Gallagher is on 25k a week, has made 7 appearances and scored 1 goal this season I believe. He played well in the week - against a league 2 team
Moore over him all day long |
Again, that's not the issue, is it? Gallagher is a more experienced version of Hirst who would suit the system better.
If you haven't realised that in 2 years, you never will. | |
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| HWFG - Moore on 09:53 - Feb 1 with 1836 views | WeirdFishes |
| HWFG - Moore on 09:25 - Feb 1 by smithy69 |
Imagine not being excited about a premier league striker who has scored 9 in 38 appearances for
His country and over a 100 goals at club level
The mind boggles |
It’s nothing to do with goal scoring record, I don’t see him as being able to do what Hirst does in terms of pressing etc.
Sorry for expressing an opinion. | |
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| HWFG - Moore on 09:53 - Feb 1 with 1811 views | smithy69 |
| HWFG - Moore on 09:50 - Feb 1 by Kieran_Knows |
Again, that's not the issue, is it? Gallagher is a more experienced version of Hirst who would suit the system better.
If you haven't realised that in 2 years, you never will. |
But he hasn’t been playing. That’s my point | | | |
| HWFG - Moore on 09:54 - Feb 1 with 1722 views | Jon_456 |
| HWFG - Moore on 09:41 - Feb 1 by Kieran_Knows |
'Different players with different attributes but I’ve seen so many negative things around Moore. I just don’t get it'
That's exactly it, isn't it? At what point have we shown a variation to our play in terms of how we press from the front? Christ, McKenna had preferred Jackson to Ladapo the past 4 months because of what Jackson gives us in terms of pressing from the front. So why all of a sudden do we think we're going to change the system to suit Moore? |
While all that is true, we’re going to be facing a few cr*p teams at home over the next few weeks which will probably require less pressing and more of a Moore style player for the 10s to play off and to also get on the end of crosses.
Certainly no Hirst replacement but still a very good option to have at this level. | | | |
| HWFG - Moore on 09:54 - Feb 1 with 1721 views | IPSWICHFANITFC |
| HWFG - Moore on 09:44 - Feb 1 by Kieran_Knows |
Gallagher & Hardie are 2 that spring to mind that I would imagine would be within budget (although like with Gallagher, other factors come in to play).
But then I'm not part of the recruitment team, so what do I know? |
I'm honestly so surprised we never took a deeper interest in Ryan Hardie. Maybe we did and it didn't materialise in the media, but he would've been someone I'd have thought a deal could've happened if we went in. |  |
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| HWFG - Moore on 09:55 - Feb 1 with 1662 views | pointofblue |
| HWFG - Moore on 09:50 - Feb 1 by Kieran_Knows |
Again, that's not the issue, is it? Gallagher is a more experienced version of Hirst who would suit the system better.
If you haven't realised that in 2 years, you never will. |
Fair enough. But how do you get a club to sell who doesn't want to sell? Would you prefer us to go ridiculous on Gallagher - say ÂŁ5m upwards to push Blackburn into a corner - or bring in Moore on loan? | |
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| HWFG - Moore on 09:59 - Feb 1 with 1483 views | Linners |
I often look at whether I'd be happy if Norwich brought that player in, and I'd rather they'd got Gallagher than Moore... |  | | |
| HWFG - Moore on 10:00 - Feb 1 with 1465 views | homer_123 |
| HWFG - Moore on 09:53 - Feb 1 by smithy69 |
But he hasn’t been playing. That’s my point |
Without looking - actually playing time might not be vastly different between the two.
Of the two, Gallagher is a far better fit to our system. Can Moore do a job - yes. |  |
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| HWFG - Moore on 10:01 - Feb 1 with 1404 views | smithy69 |
| HWFG - Moore on 10:00 - Feb 1 by homer_123 |
Without looking - actually playing time might not be vastly different between the two.
Of the two, Gallagher is a far better fit to our system. Can Moore do a job - yes. |
Personally I think teams have started to figure out our system - and with some scrappier teams coming up - I can see Moore being more Influential against those
Only an opinion though | | | |
| HWFG - Moore on 10:05 - Feb 1 with 1320 views | SamWhiteUK |
Kieffer Moore came up in my trending list and all the first few tweets were about him maybe coming here |  | | |
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