| The EFL's refrees get 15% of big decisions wrong 14:08 - Dec 20 with 1122 views | TresBonne |
https://www.efl.com/news/2023/december/19/key-match-incidents-panel-reveals-corr
I am baffled that they have posted this like its a good thing. So 15% of 'key decisions' defined in the article as:
Penalties (awarded/not awarded)
Sending Off (issued/not issued)
Denial of goal scoring opportunity (issued/not issued)
Second Caution/Dismissal (issued/not issued)
Goal (awarded/not awarded)
Offside Judgement leading to Goal (awarded/not awarded)
Major Application of Law
Technical Area Removal (issued/not issued)
Go wrong?! Surely that's a huge chunk of them considering those could have a huge impact on a game. More than 1 in 10 games are directly affected by incorrect refereeing. |  | | |  |
| The EFL's refrees get 15% of big decisions wrong on 14:12 - Dec 20 with 1097 views | tractorboy1978 |
I'm not convinced it's any better with VAR. |  | | |
| The EFL's refrees get 15% of big decisions wrong on 14:15 - Dec 20 with 1087 views | TresBonne |
| The EFL's refrees get 15% of big decisions wrong on 14:12 - Dec 20 by tractorboy1978 |
I'm not convinced it's any better with VAR. |
Exactly, I'd be interested to see the state of the VAR statistics for PL/Champions League. So many things still going wrong | | | |
| The EFL's refrees get 15% of big decisions wrong on 14:33 - Dec 20 with 1031 views | Keno |
or put another way they get 85% right |  |
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| The EFL's refrees get 15% of big decisions wrong on 15:25 - Dec 20 with 964 views | SaleAway |
The most interesting thing that is missing from that table in the article about decisions, is the difficulty level. They mention in the article that they give the decisions a rating from 1-5 of difficulty.... some of the decisions that are " wrong" could be a split decision on a really hard subjective decision.... football has always been about interpretation of the laws, so throwing a committee at it doesn't necessarily make the decisions bad. You can bet that the committee gets a lot more angles and a lot more time to make a decision than the ref gets.
Ask yourself how many misplaced passes/ bad decisions/ missed opportunities your team has during a game, and then decide whether its the refs fault for not picking up a featherlight contact in a crowded box, with 3 people in the way, that they lost.
Refs have an incredibly hard job, there are obviously processes and coaching to help them improve, but constant critiscism from the sidelines doesn't really help anyone. Accept that they will get things wrong, as everyone does, and concentrate on the good things in the game. | |
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| The EFL's refrees get 15% of big decisions wrong on 15:36 - Dec 20 with 934 views | Ryorry |
Only 15%?? 🤔 |  |
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| The EFL's refrees get 15% of big decisions wrong on 16:07 - Dec 20 with 883 views | MattinLondon |
Anyone would think that they are human and consequently interpret each scenario differently.
Refs aren’t there to get every decision correctly but to officiate the match in an impartial way. |  | | |
| The EFL's refrees get 15% of big decisions wrong on 16:21 - Dec 20 with 856 views | solemio |
| The EFL's refrees get 15% of big decisions wrong on 15:36 - Dec 20 by Ryorry |
Only 15%?? 🤔 |
Naughty! | | | |
| The EFL's refrees get 15% of big decisions wrong on 16:58 - Dec 20 with 813 views | Plums |
| The EFL's refrees get 15% of big decisions wrong on 15:25 - Dec 20 by SaleAway |
The most interesting thing that is missing from that table in the article about decisions, is the difficulty level. They mention in the article that they give the decisions a rating from 1-5 of difficulty.... some of the decisions that are " wrong" could be a split decision on a really hard subjective decision.... football has always been about interpretation of the laws, so throwing a committee at it doesn't necessarily make the decisions bad. You can bet that the committee gets a lot more angles and a lot more time to make a decision than the ref gets.
Ask yourself how many misplaced passes/ bad decisions/ missed opportunities your team has during a game, and then decide whether its the refs fault for not picking up a featherlight contact in a crowded box, with 3 people in the way, that they lost.
Refs have an incredibly hard job, there are obviously processes and coaching to help them improve, but constant critiscism from the sidelines doesn't really help anyone. Accept that they will get things wrong, as everyone does, and concentrate on the good things in the game. |
Let's not forget that a significant number of the players are also actively trying to deceive the officials - that makes the job incredibly difficult.
Not only are they trying to make the correct decision, they're not 100% certain that what they think they're seeing is reality. |  |
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| The EFL's refrees get 15% of big decisions wrong on 17:37 - Dec 20 with 762 views | GeoffSentence |
| The EFL's refrees get 15% of big decisions wrong on 14:33 - Dec 20 by Keno |
or put another way they get 85% right |
That is how the EFL put it in their article. The OP is pointing out that means they get 15% wrong.
Which is a lot. |  |
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| The EFL's refrees get 15% of big decisions wrong on 17:55 - Dec 20 with 727 views | MattinLondon |
| The EFL's refrees get 15% of big decisions wrong on 17:37 - Dec 20 by GeoffSentence |
That is how the EFL put it in their article. The OP is pointing out that means they get 15% wrong.
Which is a lot. |
Is it though? In most matches you have players that actively make it much harder for them to officiate. Feigning injury, diving, over exaggerating contact etc. | | | |
| The EFL's refrees get 15% of big decisions wrong on 20:17 - Dec 20 with 675 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| The EFL's refrees get 15% of big decisions wrong on 15:25 - Dec 20 by SaleAway |
The most interesting thing that is missing from that table in the article about decisions, is the difficulty level. They mention in the article that they give the decisions a rating from 1-5 of difficulty.... some of the decisions that are " wrong" could be a split decision on a really hard subjective decision.... football has always been about interpretation of the laws, so throwing a committee at it doesn't necessarily make the decisions bad. You can bet that the committee gets a lot more angles and a lot more time to make a decision than the ref gets.
Ask yourself how many misplaced passes/ bad decisions/ missed opportunities your team has during a game, and then decide whether its the refs fault for not picking up a featherlight contact in a crowded box, with 3 people in the way, that they lost.
Refs have an incredibly hard job, there are obviously processes and coaching to help them improve, but constant critiscism from the sidelines doesn't really help anyone. Accept that they will get things wrong, as everyone does, and concentrate on the good things in the game. |
Indeed. I wonder how many players score 85% of their shots, or complete 85% of their passes or save 85% of the shots against them.
Of course, we remember the 15% that go against us. |  |
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| The EFL's refrees get 15% of big decisions wrong on 05:48 - Dec 21 with 552 views | NeedhamChris |
| The EFL's refrees get 15% of big decisions wrong on 20:17 - Dec 20 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Indeed. I wonder how many players score 85% of their shots, or complete 85% of their passes or save 85% of the shots against them.
Of course, we remember the 15% that go against us. |
When it comes to Wes Burns, I'm not sure 85% would be good enough. | |
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