| VAR question 17:15 - Feb 2 with 2715 views | Pinewoodblue |
Watching Spurs v Man City. Ref doesn’t give a penalty but VAR taking a look at it. Full two minutes before ball goes out of play and Penalty awarded. Does that two minutes get added on.
If you’re not watching Loris saved the penalty, but second VAR review for a possible second penalty for foul by lLoris, not awarded but 2 yellows for the scrummage that’s followed. |  |
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| VAR question on 17:38 - Feb 2 with 2648 views | SitfcB |
No, because the ball was in play.
Plus it never went out, Mike Dean blew up when the City keeper got it. May as well have just blown up when it happened for VAR to check. |  |
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| VAR question on 18:34 - Feb 2 with 2586 views | StochesStotasBlewe |
| VAR question on 17:38 - Feb 2 by SitfcB |
No, because the ball was in play.
Plus it never went out, Mike Dean blew up when the City keeper got it. May as well have just blown up when it happened for VAR to check. |
So if Spurs had scored in that 2 minutes and 8 seconds, the "goal" would be retrospectively dissalowed then? |  |
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| VAR question on 18:36 - Feb 2 with 2581 views | Swansea_Blue |
Any chance they can take a look at Ruud van Nistlerooy’s dive?
VAR is getting silly - think they need to pause and have a proper review of how it’s working (or not). |  |
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| VAR question on 19:37 - Feb 2 with 2529 views | bahri |
| VAR question on 18:34 - Feb 2 by StochesStotasBlewe |
So if Spurs had scored in that 2 minutes and 8 seconds, the "goal" would be retrospectively dissalowed then? |
Yes.
Utter madness |  |
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| VAR question on 19:43 - Feb 2 with 2522 views | StochesStotasBlewe |
| VAR question on 19:37 - Feb 2 by bahri |
Yes.
Utter madness |
Thanks. Had a feeling that would be the outcome.
As you rightly point out, utter madness. | |
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| VAR question on 19:48 - Feb 2 with 2518 views | Radlett_blue |
| VAR question on 17:38 - Feb 2 by SitfcB |
No, because the ball was in play.
Plus it never went out, Mike Dean blew up when the City keeper got it. May as well have just blown up when it happened for VAR to check. |
Stopping the game for 2 minutes when the ball is in play so that the TV ref can decide if there was a "clear & obvious error" would make a bad situation worse. |  |
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| VAR question on 21:33 - Feb 2 with 2433 views | SenatorBlue |
What would happen if say Man C had scored a goal in those 2 mins. Would VAR still happen, and award them a Penalty to potentially go two up? |  | | |
| VAR question on 21:55 - Feb 2 with 2400 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| VAR question on 18:36 - Feb 2 by Swansea_Blue |
Any chance they can take a look at Ruud van Nistlerooy’s dive?
VAR is getting silly - think they need to pause and have a proper review of how it’s working (or not). |
That's a great shout. Every club should be able to get the worst half a dozen injustices in history looked at and put right. Then the points should all be readjusted and clubs reinstated in leagues or promoted or not as a result.
Actually, second thoughts the idea our current team might end up playing in the Premier League or the Championship, perhaps we are better off taking the hit! |  |
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| VAR question on 22:02 - Feb 2 with 2394 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| VAR question on 17:38 - Feb 2 by SitfcB |
No, because the ball was in play.
Plus it never went out, Mike Dean blew up when the City keeper got it. May as well have just blown up when it happened for VAR to check. |
Of course that time should be added on. It did not count as actual play as the play was pulled back to the previous incident.
If a booking had occurred it would still have counted but nothing else would have done. No set piece, no goal, etc. This is the difference with advantage being played. If something had happened it would have counted and advantage is only played briefly until it is lost or the team failed to take advantage of it.
If the point of time allowed is to ensure fans see 90 minutes then I could see the argument that you don't get the time but if it is about ensuring the teams get the full 90 minutes to compete then it has to be added on along with the time it takes to make the VAR call. | |
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| VAR question on 22:05 - Feb 2 with 2388 views | BlueStreak |
| VAR question on 21:33 - Feb 2 by SenatorBlue |
What would happen if say Man C had scored a goal in those 2 mins. Would VAR still happen, and award them a Penalty to potentially go two up? |
Obviously not. The goal is given and no need for a VAR review. Been speaking with Joe about this tonight and they had to play on until the ball was basically 'dead'. VAR worked perfectly in this situation as avoided the howler. It took two minutes, so what? Would rather have that and get the obvious decision correct. |  | | |
| VAR question on 22:08 - Feb 2 with 2382 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| VAR question on 22:05 - Feb 2 by BlueStreak |
Obviously not. The goal is given and no need for a VAR review. Been speaking with Joe about this tonight and they had to play on until the ball was basically 'dead'. VAR worked perfectly in this situation as avoided the howler. It took two minutes, so what? Would rather have that and get the obvious decision correct. |
Yes, and had Tottenham scored their goal would not have stood. | |
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| VAR question on 22:23 - Feb 2 with 2368 views | StochesStotasBlewe |
| VAR question on 21:55 - Feb 2 by Nthsuffolkblue |
That's a great shout. Every club should be able to get the worst half a dozen injustices in history looked at and put right. Then the points should all be readjusted and clubs reinstated in leagues or promoted or not as a result.
Actually, second thoughts the idea our current team might end up playing in the Premier League or the Championship, perhaps we are better off taking the hit! |
Helmut Schon is contacting the VAR referees from the other side as we speak. | |
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| VAR question on 22:24 - Feb 2 with 2362 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| VAR question on 22:23 - Feb 2 by StochesStotasBlewe |
Helmut Schon is contacting the VAR referees from the other side as we speak. |
Isn't Dermot Gallagher the ultimate authority on it all now? | |
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| VAR question on 22:26 - Feb 2 with 2358 views | linhdi |
| VAR question on 21:55 - Feb 2 by Nthsuffolkblue |
That's a great shout. Every club should be able to get the worst half a dozen injustices in history looked at and put right. Then the points should all be readjusted and clubs reinstated in leagues or promoted or not as a result.
Actually, second thoughts the idea our current team might end up playing in the Premier League or the Championship, perhaps we are better off taking the hit! |
I would love to have our Play-Off SF v Bolton subjected to VAR retrospectively. They'd have been a man down even earlier, every other yellow / red would be confirmed and we'd be able to take the p1ss once again!!! | | | |
| VAR question on 22:26 - Feb 2 with 2356 views | StochesStotasBlewe |
| VAR question on 22:24 - Feb 2 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Isn't Dermot Gallagher the ultimate authority on it all now? |
Look up Helmut Schon dear chap  | |
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| VAR question on 22:35 - Feb 2 with 2343 views | jaykay |
| VAR question on 18:34 - Feb 2 by StochesStotasBlewe |
So if Spurs had scored in that 2 minutes and 8 seconds, the "goal" would be retrospectively dissalowed then? |
a bit like liverpool v southamton yesterday. southamton had a penalty appeal and liverpool broke and scored while this was going on |  |
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| VAR question on 22:41 - Feb 2 with 2336 views | footers |
Next year there'll be all kinds of scientists with Bunsen burners and trundle wheels on the touchlines in support of this VAR.
When will the madness end? Presumably robot refs who look like Henry hoovers, dispensing yellow and red cards from the nozzle.
Insanity. |  |
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| VAR question on 22:50 - Feb 2 with 2317 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Oh, got you. Sorry! I actually thought he was some clairvoyant or something! [Post edited 2 Feb 2020 22:50]
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| VAR question on 08:38 - Feb 3 with 2191 views | Radlett_blue |
| VAR question on 22:02 - Feb 2 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Of course that time should be added on. It did not count as actual play as the play was pulled back to the previous incident.
If a booking had occurred it would still have counted but nothing else would have done. No set piece, no goal, etc. This is the difference with advantage being played. If something had happened it would have counted and advantage is only played briefly until it is lost or the team failed to take advantage of it.
If the point of time allowed is to ensure fans see 90 minutes then I could see the argument that you don't get the time but if it is about ensuring the teams get the full 90 minutes to compete then it has to be added on along with the time it takes to make the VAR call. |
Fans don;'t get to see 90 minutes because time is only added on for abnormal stoppages - goals, injuries & substitutions. Time is not added on for when a team takes a minute over a free kick, for example. | |
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| VAR question on 09:03 - Feb 3 with 2157 views | Garv |
VAR is total crap, let’s have it right.
All stems from soft fouls and penalties being given, which is the fault of the referees for falling for it. If they took a firm stance and gave fewer fouls for meaningless 50/50s where there’s little or no chance of a goal anyway, I.e the attacker has not really lost out, we wouldn’t need all this. Football has basically eaten itself. |  |
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| VAR question on 09:51 - Feb 3 with 2139 views | Mercian |
| VAR question on 21:55 - Feb 2 by Nthsuffolkblue |
That's a great shout. Every club should be able to get the worst half a dozen injustices in history looked at and put right. Then the points should all be readjusted and clubs reinstated in leagues or promoted or not as a result.
Actually, second thoughts the idea our current team might end up playing in the Premier League or the Championship, perhaps we are better off taking the hit! |
I like the idea. Those two goals on the last day of the 81 season away at Boro need a very good look at. Not for internationals though, that would be a stupid idea. | | | |
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