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Can we just keep all the Corbyn stuff in one thread please? 14:02 - Aug 1 with 795 viewsSpruceMoose

Oh Jeremy..... by Steve_M 23 Mar 2018 19:39
It's been known about for a while, this chap even wrote a pertinent blog about it:

https://medium.com/@twlldun/the-socialism-of-fools-cb3426fc10bf

At the very best Corbyn is blind to anti-Semitism, that's not an ideal position for a prospective Prime Minister, but he is quite prepared to indulge it in people he thinks are on the 'right side'.


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Can we just keep all the Corbyn stuff in one thread please? on 14:06 - Aug 1 with 785 viewsSteve_M

Fecking hell, 17 months ago that and the Labour Party is still unable to deal with antisemitism. That timeframe alone should disqualify Corbyn from leadership of a major political party. It's quite obvious why this has dragged on so long though: the leadership don't care about it.

And however many times people perform verbal contortions to pretend otherwise is denying the victims of racism a voice in a way they would with no other racism.
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Can we just keep all the Corbyn stuff in one thread please? on 14:09 - Aug 1 with 774 viewsSpruceMoose

Can we just keep all the Corbyn stuff in one thread please? on 14:06 - Aug 1 by Steve_M

Fecking hell, 17 months ago that and the Labour Party is still unable to deal with antisemitism. That timeframe alone should disqualify Corbyn from leadership of a major political party. It's quite obvious why this has dragged on so long though: the leadership don't care about it.

And however many times people perform verbal contortions to pretend otherwise is denying the victims of racism a voice in a way they would with no other racism.
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It shocked me just how old that thread was too.

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Can we just keep all the Corbyn stuff in one thread please? on 14:22 - Aug 1 with 736 viewsDarth_Koont

Can we just keep all the Corbyn stuff in one thread please? on 14:06 - Aug 1 by Steve_M

Fecking hell, 17 months ago that and the Labour Party is still unable to deal with antisemitism. That timeframe alone should disqualify Corbyn from leadership of a major political party. It's quite obvious why this has dragged on so long though: the leadership don't care about it.

And however many times people perform verbal contortions to pretend otherwise is denying the victims of racism a voice in a way they would with no other racism.
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It keeps going because Corbyn is still leader. It keeps going because political opponents and pro-Israel fundamentalists want to keep making specious accusations stick. And it keeps going because people perhaps aren't being honest about their own motivations and certainly not being honest about the actual evidence.

We have a democracy in crisis. And this is every bit a part of it as lying politicians, voter manipulation through social media, foreign interference, unaccounted lobbying and a media that's not fit for purpose and can't be trusted. In fact, all of that is visible even here.

But of course to understand that would require people looking at all the evidence, Steve. And that won't give you what you want.

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Can we just keep all the Corbyn stuff in one thread please? on 14:24 - Aug 1 with 735 viewsfooters

Can we just keep all the Corbyn stuff in one thread please? on 14:06 - Aug 1 by Steve_M

Fecking hell, 17 months ago that and the Labour Party is still unable to deal with antisemitism. That timeframe alone should disqualify Corbyn from leadership of a major political party. It's quite obvious why this has dragged on so long though: the leadership don't care about it.

And however many times people perform verbal contortions to pretend otherwise is denying the victims of racism a voice in a way they would with no other racism.
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Yeah, I suppose all the investigations and suspensions smack of a failure to recognise the problem...

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Can we just keep all the Corbyn stuff in one thread please? on 14:30 - Aug 1 with 718 viewsBlueBadger

Can we just keep all the Corbyn stuff in one thread please? on 14:24 - Aug 1 by footers

Yeah, I suppose all the investigations and suspensions smack of a failure to recognise the problem...


Compare and contrast the speed involved in dealing with someone accused of anti-semitism compared to the fair more heinous crime of disagreeing with and/or criticising the Dear Leader..

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Can we just keep all the Corbyn stuff in one thread please? on 14:32 - Aug 1 with 710 viewsfooters

Can we just keep all the Corbyn stuff in one thread please? on 14:30 - Aug 1 by BlueBadger

Compare and contrast the speed involved in dealing with someone accused of anti-semitism compared to the fair more heinous crime of disagreeing with and/or criticising the Dear Leader..


Oh OK then. So it's not about a lack of action but the speed with which due process takes place. Fair enough. Should probably bounce 'em in a kangaroo court.

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Can we just keep all the Corbyn stuff in one thread please? on 14:55 - Aug 1 with 674 viewsDarth_Koont

Can we just keep all the Corbyn stuff in one thread please? on 14:30 - Aug 1 by BlueBadger

Compare and contrast the speed involved in dealing with someone accused of anti-semitism compared to the fair more heinous crime of disagreeing with and/or criticising the Dear Leader..


Is this the Alastair Campbell nonsense? He admitted breaking party rules while accusations of misconduct need actual investigation.

You're so skewed over this stuff you're being utterly illogical.

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Can we just keep all the Corbyn stuff in one thread please? on 20:22 - Aug 1 with 600 viewsOldsmoker

Can we just keep all the Corbyn stuff in one thread please? on 14:32 - Aug 1 by footers

Oh OK then. So it's not about a lack of action but the speed with which due process takes place. Fair enough. Should probably bounce 'em in a kangaroo court.


If you need an example of "speed of process" then Chilcott and the Iraq Inquiry spring to mind. That was about something that had finished and took ages whilst Labour and antisemitism seems to be a moving target.
Those who have been offended by this antisemitism are never going to stop. They will continue to be offended forever and nothing will assuage them.
Lucky that the Tories have got Brexit as a distraction and have dropped that Islamaphobia probe of their own.

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Can we just keep all the Corbyn stuff in one thread please? on 21:11 - Aug 1 with 566 viewsbournemouthblue

Racism in any form is terrible and should be driven out, it would be interesting to compare how other organisations deal with it, what their processes are and how long they take for some perspective

It always seems to come from Twitter

We constantly seem to hear how the left has a problem here yet Newspapers like the Mail can print bile continuously which certainly contributes to the spread of hate with seemingly no repercussions at all

We have had a politician murdered and several terror plots foiled which are coming from the far right, why aren't we getting the same media on this?

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Can we just keep all the Corbyn stuff in one thread please? on 22:01 - Aug 1 with 531 viewsFootballpete

Can we just keep all the Corbyn stuff in one thread please? on 14:06 - Aug 1 by Steve_M

Fecking hell, 17 months ago that and the Labour Party is still unable to deal with antisemitism. That timeframe alone should disqualify Corbyn from leadership of a major political party. It's quite obvious why this has dragged on so long though: the leadership don't care about it.

And however many times people perform verbal contortions to pretend otherwise is denying the victims of racism a voice in a way they would with no other racism.
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Steve you’re a well reasoned person as far as I can tell, what action do you think the Labour Party should have taken to better deal with the issue?

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Can we just keep all the Corbyn stuff in one thread please? on 22:09 - Aug 1 with 521 viewsFootballpete

Can we just keep all the Corbyn stuff in one thread please? on 14:30 - Aug 1 by BlueBadger

Compare and contrast the speed involved in dealing with someone accused of anti-semitism compared to the fair more heinous crime of disagreeing with and/or criticising the Dear Leader..


I must have missed the mass expulsions of those who backed Owen Smith. Or the expulsion of the countless prominent party members who openly undermine the leadership at every opportunity in the press. It appears when it comes to labour we now live in opposite land.

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Can we just keep all the Corbyn stuff in one thread please? on 13:41 - Aug 2 with 410 viewsDarth_Koont

Can we just keep all the Corbyn stuff in one thread please? on 22:01 - Aug 1 by Footballpete

Steve you’re a well reasoned person as far as I can tell, what action do you think the Labour Party should have taken to better deal with the issue?


Good question. I'd like to hear the answer to this too.

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Can we just keep all the Corbyn stuff in one thread please? on 16:52 - Aug 2 with 377 viewsNaylorsboots

Its stuff like this that will keep Boris in power. They need to take a grip. I dont think Corbyn is the man for it.
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Can we just keep all the Corbyn stuff in one thread please? on 17:18 - Aug 2 with 359 viewsDarth_Koont

Can we just keep all the Corbyn stuff in one thread please? on 16:52 - Aug 2 by Naylorsboots

Its stuff like this that will keep Boris in power. They need to take a grip. I dont think Corbyn is the man for it.


No. Centrists doing the right's bidding will keep Boris in power.

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