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Seemed a reasonable statement the 1st time this evening but by the time the 4th or 5th person queued up to use her name to try and force their way it made me feel very uneasy. I now see that her husband has said that he doesn't agree with using her name in that way.
The bigger problem, regardless of your view on that, was Boris Johnson comprehensively demonstrating that he would have no problem whatsoever with somebody else suffering the same awful fate as poor Jo Cox. Lots of people finding themselves on a very nasty side of history at the moment and it's not going to be forgotten.
The Jo Cox remarks on 22:51 - Sep 25 by Kievthegreat
I assume you include Boris in this? He took her name in vain as well.
He didn't just take her name in vain. He took a dump on it.
Pronouns: He/Him/His.
"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country."
As Brenda Cox said, both leavers and remainers need to moderate their language but Boris Johnson is Prime Minister, and whether people like it or not he’s the leader of our country. His words carry more authority and will be reported more. He needs to be extra careful with his words. But as the Zaghari-Ratcliffe incident had previously shown he is completely careless and wreckless with his words. He’s a loose cannon and should be nowhere near number 10.
The point, which you choose to ignore for cheap internet kicks, is that an MP was murdered only three years ago. The causes of that murder have been downplayed because it has been uncomfortable for too many politicians and much of the media to face up to their culpability in extreme use of language.
For Johnson to basically say that he didn't give a sh1t is deplorable. He's not the only politician who needs to moderate his language but he is the Prime Minister (for the next few weeks at least).
The point, which you choose to ignore for cheap internet kicks, is that an MP was murdered only three years ago. The causes of that murder have been downplayed because it has been uncomfortable for too many politicians and much of the media to face up to their culpability in extreme use of language.
For Johnson to basically say that he didn't give a sh1t is deplorable. He's not the only politician who needs to moderate his language but he is the Prime Minister (for the next few weeks at least).
Anyone claiming they can’t see a difference between Labour MP’s asking the PM to stop whipping up hatred and division, and the same PM saying ‘the best way to honour Jo Cox is to deliver Brexit’ is either an idiot or so brainwashed to be beyond reason anyway.
The point, which you choose to ignore for cheap internet kicks, is that an MP was murdered only three years ago. The causes of that murder have been downplayed because it has been uncomfortable for too many politicians and much of the media to face up to their culpability in extreme use of language.
For Johnson to basically say that he didn't give a sh1t is deplorable. He's not the only politician who needs to moderate his language but he is the Prime Minister (for the next few weeks at least).
For cheap internet kicks? Her husband made the comment. I felt uneasy but didn't raise it for discussion at the time because I knew some on here get very angry and shouty if you dare to question something like this. I assumed once her husband had pointed out he didn't feel comfortable that others would be able to see that stance. Clearly not though.
The cheap internet kicks that I can see here is your response.
Anyone claiming they can’t see a difference between Labour MP’s asking the PM to stop whipping up hatred and division, and the same PM saying ‘the best way to honour Jo Cox is to deliver Brexit’ is either an idiot or so brainwashed to be beyond reason anyway.
I don't see how you could have been watching.
As i clearly said the 1st comment was reasonable and maybe the 2nd but by the 4th or 5th it became uneasy viewing. It had clearly become a deliberate tactic to force him to do something by using the name of Jo Cox. Not really sure how anyone can defend that.
For the record I don't support Boris and won't be voting for him but it seems some on here have lost all clarity and wemt let him became part of a discussion unless they can call him a disgrace and ignore everything else. Yes he is a disgrace but there is a wider point here.
As i clearly said the 1st comment was reasonable and maybe the 2nd but by the 4th or 5th it became uneasy viewing. It had clearly become a deliberate tactic to force him to do something by using the name of Jo Cox. Not really sure how anyone can defend that.
For the record I don't support Boris and won't be voting for him but it seems some on here have lost all clarity and wemt let him became part of a discussion unless they can call him a disgrace and ignore everything else. Yes he is a disgrace but there is a wider point here.
Pretty sure Brendan Cox is talking about the way Boris used Jo’s name, not those imploring him to moderate his language, which is the exact point Brendan is endorsing (although he, quite rightly, says that applies to both sides).
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The Jo Cox remarks on 07:47 - Sep 26 with 3268 views
Anyone claiming they can’t see a difference between Labour MP’s asking the PM to stop whipping up hatred and division, and the same PM saying ‘the best way to honour Jo Cox is to deliver Brexit’ is either an idiot or so brainwashed to be beyond reason anyway.
The best way to honour the poor woman would be for ALL the political parties to stop bringing up her name simply for political gain. I'm sure the family do not want to turn the tv or radio on this morning and hear all this.
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The Jo Cox remarks on 07:57 - Sep 26 with 3225 views
The Jo Cox remarks on 07:47 - Sep 26 by crunchie1978
The best way to honour the poor woman would be for ALL the political parties to stop bringing up her name simply for political gain. I'm sure the family do not want to turn the tv or radio on this morning and hear all this.
Yeah, let's pretend an MP wasn't murdered and ignore what lead to that in the first place.
Any other crimes you would like us to just ignore because they're politically inconvenient?
The Jo Cox remarks on 07:47 - Sep 26 by crunchie1978
The best way to honour the poor woman would be for ALL the political parties to stop bringing up her name simply for political gain. I'm sure the family do not want to turn the tv or radio on this morning and hear all this.
This was a debate specifically about the language used in the commons, surely you can see how that’s relevant?
It’s not like they were saying ‘we should remain because of Jo Cox’ (although Boris did pretty much that)
The Government is deliberately pitting the parliament against the people, it’s only right they should think about the consequences of such an approach, beyond just trying to win an election.
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The Jo Cox remarks on 08:00 - Sep 26 with 3213 views
Yeah, let's pretend an MP wasn't murdered and ignore what lead to that in the first place.
Any other crimes you would like us to just ignore because they're politically inconvenient?
I don't agree with Crunchie at all here, she must be remembered but I don't want to see her turn into a throw away comment but her name being repeated ince per minute to try and force a view. Not sure why you don't agree with that and felt the need for you original reply
The Jo Cox remarks on 08:20 - Sep 26 by SomethingBlue
Decided Boris Johnson is the better side to take? Might end up being difficult to live with. Have a serious think.
Just to clarify are you saying that if you criticise the opposite benches or Boris detractors at any point then it means you now side with Boris? These are strange times and odd politics
This was a debate specifically about the language used in the commons, surely you can see how that’s relevant?
It’s not like they were saying ‘we should remain because of Jo Cox’ (although Boris did pretty much that)
The Government is deliberately pitting the parliament against the people, it’s only right they should think about the consequences of such an approach, beyond just trying to win an election.
Absolutely spot on. Johnson is deliberately and repeatedly using words like "surrender bill" to rabble rouse and play to certain (unfortunately all too prevalent) views. The strategy has got Cummings written all over it.
I recently watched the following video, in which Cummings goes into some detail about the use of modern polling and data analysis techniques to influence key demographics via social media during the referendum campaign:
He explains how he inserted the word "back" into the now infamous "take back control" slogan in order to deliberately invoke anger in people. It's basically manipulation on a grand scale.
And that's sadly almost certainly what's happening now. He'll be telling Johnson to use the words "surrender bill" at every available opportunity to appeal to the Dunkirk-spirit-we-won-the-war-this-great-country-has--done-it-before-it-can-do-it-again mentality. All part of the master general election plan, and many people will be lapping it up.
What a bloody sad time we're living in.
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The Jo Cox remarks on 08:41 - Sep 26 with 3064 views
The Jo Cox remarks on 08:41 - Sep 26 by Radlett_blue
Anyone invoking Jo Cox's name and her brutal murder in order to make a political point is behaving inappropriately.
The female Labour MPs who mentioned her weren't making a political point. They were making a point about their own safety and death threats they have received which ape the aggressive and divisive language used by Johnson. They were asking him to moderate his language. Jo Cox was a relevant example to use in that context, especially by MPs who knew her and who work I similar constituencies and who are facing similar threats.
Using her to make a political point would be doing something like saying the best way to honour her memory is to deliver Brexit. That's what the PM did. See the difference there?
This was a debate specifically about the language used in the commons, surely you can see how that’s relevant?
It’s not like they were saying ‘we should remain because of Jo Cox’ (although Boris did pretty much that)
The Government is deliberately pitting the parliament against the people, it’s only right they should think about the consequences of such an approach, beyond just trying to win an election.
No because I dont see the words surrender or traitor as being inflammatory. Other people do and are using jo coxs name to further gain political advantage.
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