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Everton fan who used toddler as billy club jailed 14:32 - Jun 1 with 6072 viewsSpruceMoose

Shocking behaviour.

At least he's banned from football for 6 years and Everton games for life. Mind you the way Everton have been playing that might be more of a blessing than a curse.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jun/01/everton-fan-jailed-for-attackin
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Everton fan who used toddler as billy club jailed on 15:01 - Jun 1 with 4493 viewsDarth_Koont

I'm not sure what they've got to base the sentence on but that sounds about right.

That was one of the more saddening things to see in 2017 — even though there were a lot of other things more serious and fatal clearly.

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Everton fan who used toddler as billy club jailed on 15:07 - Jun 1 with 4474 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Everton fan who used toddler as billy club jailed on 15:01 - Jun 1 by Darth_Koont

I'm not sure what they've got to base the sentence on but that sounds about right.

That was one of the more saddening things to see in 2017 — even though there were a lot of other things more serious and fatal clearly.


Assault according to the article. Seems reasonable.

The article does not mention the consequences in terms of his parenthood aside from his fear it would lead to him no longer having access to any of his children. I suspect his fears are well-founded.

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Everton fan who used toddler as billy club jailed on 16:05 - Jun 1 with 4358 viewsLord_Lucan

Everton fan who used toddler as billy club jailed on 15:01 - Jun 1 by Darth_Koont

I'm not sure what they've got to base the sentence on but that sounds about right.

That was one of the more saddening things to see in 2017 — even though there were a lot of other things more serious and fatal clearly.


I think two months is quite lenient for that.

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Everton fan who used toddler as billy club jailed on 16:11 - Jun 1 with 4339 viewsDarth_Koont

Everton fan who used toddler as billy club jailed on 16:05 - Jun 1 by Lord_Lucan

I think two months is quite lenient for that.


Yeah, I think I'd have thrown the book at him a lot harder, and at his head.

I'm guessing there's not much precedent to go from. And the sentence at least sends out the right message.

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Everton fan who used toddler as billy club jailed on 16:12 - Jun 1 with 4332 viewsSpruceMoose

Everton fan who used toddler as billy club jailed on 16:05 - Jun 1 by Lord_Lucan

I think two months is quite lenient for that.


Indeed. He got lucky with the incident. If he'd have dropped that kid on his head and caused him some damage...

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Everton fan who used toddler as billy club jailed on 16:19 - Jun 1 with 4319 viewstcblue

Am I the only one who found it a bit funny?

NB: things can be funny and shocking and appalling all at the same time
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Everton fan who used toddler as billy club jailed on 16:30 - Jun 1 with 4289 viewsSpruceMoose

Everton fan who used toddler as billy club jailed on 16:19 - Jun 1 by tcblue

Am I the only one who found it a bit funny?

NB: things can be funny and shocking and appalling all at the same time


What did you find funny about it?

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Everton fan who used toddler as billy club jailed on 17:10 - Jun 1 with 4216 viewstextbackup

jesus christ, he didn't hit the player did he, he pushed him. seriously OTT

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Everton fan who used toddler as billy club jailed on 17:21 - Jun 1 with 4191 viewsSpruceMoose

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jesus christ, he didn't hit the player did he, he pushed him. seriously OTT


Yeah a man should be free to assault someone doing their job, in a public place of his choosing, while holding his scared toddler.

Some people see the world through seriously weird eyes.

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Everton fan who used toddler as billy club jailed on 17:27 - Jun 1 with 4174 viewstcblue

Everton fan who used toddler as billy club jailed on 16:30 - Jun 1 by SpruceMoose

What did you find funny about it?


The ridiculousness, for want of better way to describe it. Just how over-the-top and cartoonish it was.

Like when I heard my mother drop the C bomb for the first and only time, shock and disproportionate actions can be quite funny.

Whilst at the same time, being appalled at it, and to an extent myself for laughing.
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Everton fan who used toddler as billy club jailed on 17:30 - Jun 1 with 4164 viewsSpruceMoose

Everton fan who used toddler as billy club jailed on 17:27 - Jun 1 by tcblue

The ridiculousness, for want of better way to describe it. Just how over-the-top and cartoonish it was.

Like when I heard my mother drop the C bomb for the first and only time, shock and disproportionate actions can be quite funny.

Whilst at the same time, being appalled at it, and to an extent myself for laughing.


I guess I get what you mean. I suppose the pathetic spectacle of a grown man unable to control his feelings over a football match is funny in a dark, point and laugh sort of way.

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Everton fan who used toddler as billy club jailed on 17:34 - Jun 1 with 4148 viewsLord_Lucan

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jesus christ, he didn't hit the player did he, he pushed him. seriously OTT


You can’t do that with a kid in your hand, even I wouldn’t do that.

Didn’t help that he was on the tele. He’ll be out in a month, he should be thankful I reckon.

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Everton fan who used toddler as billy club jailed on 17:21 - Jun 1 by SpruceMoose

Yeah a man should be free to assault someone doing their job, in a public place of his choosing, while holding his scared toddler.

Some people see the world through seriously weird eyes.


push = assault these days? crikey

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Everton fan who used toddler as billy club jailed on 17:43 - Jun 1 with 4115 viewsSpruceMoose

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push = assault these days? crikey


How is it not assault in this context? Even if you're being charitable and ignoring the fact that the punches he swung didn't seem to hit much it's still assault.
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Everton fan who used toddler as billy club jailed on 17:46 - Jun 1 with 4106 viewsLord_Lucan

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push = assault these days? crikey


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Everton fan who used toddler as billy club jailed on 17:43 - Jun 1 by SpruceMoose

How is it not assault in this context? Even if you're being charitable and ignoring the fact that the punches he swung didn't seem to hit much it's still assault.
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don't cry Spruce, I just don't think a push is assault, I mean there was a load of pushing going on there on the pitch.
if everyone went to prison for a push the place would be overflowing

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Everton fan who used toddler as billy club jailed on 17:48 - Jun 1 with 4083 viewsSpruceMoose

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don't cry Spruce, I just don't think a push is assault, I mean there was a load of pushing going on there on the pitch.
if everyone went to prison for a push the place would be overflowing


Righto. Should have known reasonable discussion was beyond you.

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don't cry Spruce, I just don't think a push is assault, I mean there was a load of pushing going on there on the pitch.
if everyone went to prison for a push the place would be overflowing


It's common assault and can carry a prison sentence of up to six months.

Stop pushing people texty.
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Everton fan who used toddler as billy club jailed on 17:52 - Jun 1 with 4073 viewsSpruceMoose

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It's common assault and can carry a prison sentence of up to six months.

Stop pushing people texty.


Might be best off for society if he carries on and hits the books in that prison library for a month or two

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It's common assault and can carry a prison sentence of up to six months.

Stop pushing people texty.


i'm talking more bouncers push people out of pubs all the time, police push fans, stewards push fans....

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Everton fan who used toddler as billy club jailed on 18:04 - Jun 1 with 4035 viewsSpruceMoose

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i'm talking more bouncers push people out of pubs all the time, police push fans, stewards push fans....


If you watch the clip you can see why the examples you've given are vastly different.

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jesus christ, he didn't hit the player did he, he pushed him. seriously OTT


8 weeks for pushing someone.
13months for Facebook live stream.
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Everton fan who used toddler as billy club jailed on 18:06 - Jun 1 with 4028 viewsSpruceMoose

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8 weeks for pushing someone.
13months for Facebook live stream.
Better not drop any litter or I'm looking at life!


We should be so lucky!

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If you watch the clip you can see why the examples you've given are vastly different.


ive seen it.

the players have a push about, up again advertising boards, fans are in close proximity, fan pushes an opposition player.

he's only been set down because people like you get massively offended by everything

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Everton fan who used toddler as billy club jailed on 18:11 - Jun 1 with 4022 viewsSpruceMoose

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ive seen it.

the players have a push about, up again advertising boards, fans are in close proximity, fan pushes an opposition player.

he's only been set down because people like you get massively offended by everything


The bloke runs along the front of the stand to actively insert himself into the ruck where players are pushing one another, at an event he has paid to watch not participate in, taking a couple of cowardly cheapshots, all the while holding a kid. That's what happened.

And who's offended? You're making yourself look thick coming out with stuff like that.
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