| Health communism 17:31 - Nov 16 with 6540 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
"If I was proposing the creation of the NHS today the Conservatives would call it health communism" Corbyn. |  |
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| Health communism on 22:27 - Nov 18 with 450 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Health communism on 22:20 - Nov 18 by BloomBlue |
But you missed the point public companies only have unfair advantages if taxes are used to subsidise them. If you started a company today you would have to borrow money from the bank, employ people and compete. If public is going to be so much cheaper because it doesnt have shareholders then start a public company in the same way. Go and borrow money from the Bank, start with one or two people starting it from scratch. If it's going to be so much better then it will prove public is better instead of pinching a company. |
You miss the point because you are coming from an entirely free market capitalist perspective.
If the idea is can the Government run a more effective private company in competition and use the profits to reduce taxation your argument holds. However, the argument is more about running a public company with public money provides far better value for the vast majority of the population. Of course, your argument that without competition, would it be run effectively and efficiently is a fair question to ask. There are plenty of examples where they have been. Many of the public companies of Britain in the 70s are examples of ones that were not. | |
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| Health communism on 22:37 - Nov 18 with 443 views | Clapham_Junction |
| Health communism on 22:20 - Nov 18 by BloomBlue |
But you missed the point public companies only have unfair advantages if taxes are used to subsidise them. If you started a company today you would have to borrow money from the bank, employ people and compete. If public is going to be so much cheaper because it doesnt have shareholders then start a public company in the same way. Go and borrow money from the Bank, start with one or two people starting it from scratch. If it's going to be so much better then it will prove public is better instead of pinching a company. |
I think you've also missed the point somewhat, as many of the things that are suggested for nationalisation are existing monopolies in terms of physical infrastructure and so the companies that own them have to be taken over or have their assets bought. |  | | |
| Health communism on 11:12 - Nov 19 with 386 views | ElephantintheRoom |
No - if you take a look at the political spiel of 1945 when Labour had a radical manifesto that didnt just include the NHS but also a welfare state, you will see that the media and deranged out of touch Tory leader (Churchill) ranted about Gestapo on the streets of Britain IF you voted Labour..
Labour won - and as yet the creation of the NHS and a benefits system designed to help people put out of work by a war we actually started by declaring wart on Germany has not led to many job opportunities in the gestapo. |  |
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| Health communism on 11:17 - Nov 19 with 381 views | StokieBlue |
| Health communism on 11:12 - Nov 19 by ElephantintheRoom |
No - if you take a look at the political spiel of 1945 when Labour had a radical manifesto that didnt just include the NHS but also a welfare state, you will see that the media and deranged out of touch Tory leader (Churchill) ranted about Gestapo on the streets of Britain IF you voted Labour..
Labour won - and as yet the creation of the NHS and a benefits system designed to help people put out of work by a war we actually started by declaring wart on Germany has not led to many job opportunities in the gestapo. |
All good until the last line of the last paragraph.
Are you seriously suggesting that the UK started WW2 in anything above semantics? Are you advocating appeasement?
You've totally eliminated context from your statement.
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