| Stoke 20:58 - Sep 27 with 1566 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Only seen a little of it but a defensive style from what I have seen, struggling in the league and a goalkeeper dropping a clanger.
Looks rather familiar to me. At this early stage they look in trouble. |  |
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| Stoke on 21:01 - Sep 27 with 1552 views | bournemouthblue |
How have Stoke fallen apart so quickly? They some how managed to become a solid and established Premiership club, did they both with any background infrastructure
Do they have a youth setup to speak of? |  |
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| Stoke on 21:08 - Sep 27 with 1534 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Stoke on 21:01 - Sep 27 by bournemouthblue |
How have Stoke fallen apart so quickly? They some how managed to become a solid and established Premiership club, did they both with any background infrastructure
Do they have a youth setup to speak of? |
I don't think they have nor did they rely on one when they were established. I think there was some kind of sea change that led to lots of players coming in around the time Walters became surplus to requirements. That appears to have been the beginning of the end for them. Whether that was because they got the wrong players in or whether the change in direction was the wrong change or simply implemented too quickly I am not sure. | |
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| Stoke on 21:08 - Sep 27 with 1541 views | SitfcB |
| Stoke on 21:01 - Sep 27 by bournemouthblue |
How have Stoke fallen apart so quickly? They some how managed to become a solid and established Premiership club, did they both with any background infrastructure
Do they have a youth setup to speak of? |
They sacked their long serving manager after a few fans got annoyed with him, and his style. Gone well for them hasn’t it...
Hmmmmmmmmmmm... |  |
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| Stoke on 21:13 - Sep 27 with 1509 views | Fixed_It |
| Stoke on 21:08 - Sep 27 by SitfcB |
They sacked their long serving manager after a few fans got annoyed with him, and his style. Gone well for them hasn’t it...
Hmmmmmmmmmmm... |
Maybe things had got a bit stale with their long-standing manager, but the players he left behind were too entrenched in the pragmatic, cautious approach to adapt successfully to a new style? |  |
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| Stoke on 21:18 - Sep 27 with 1490 views | Ftnfwest |
| Stoke on 21:08 - Sep 27 by SitfcB |
They sacked their long serving manager after a few fans got annoyed with him, and his style. Gone well for them hasn’t it...
Hmmmmmmmmmmm... |
Yeah, still at least we’ve never sacked a long term manager. Not after all those glory years.. |  | | |
| Stoke on 21:23 - Sep 27 with 1475 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Stoke on 21:13 - Sep 27 by Fixed_It |
Maybe things had got a bit stale with their long-standing manager, but the players he left behind were too entrenched in the pragmatic, cautious approach to adapt successfully to a new style? |
Indeed. Pulis would have ended up going sooner or later.
I think it was more to do with what they did to change things. Not necessarily the wrong thing to do but obviously not implemented in a successful way.
Can we think of any teams that have become established playing one sort of style to then change their style without going backwards? | |
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| Stoke on 21:24 - Sep 27 with 1464 views | BloomBlue |
| Stoke on 21:08 - Sep 27 by SitfcB |
They sacked their long serving manager after a few fans got annoyed with him, and his style. Gone well for them hasn’t it...
Hmmmmmmmmmmm... |
And signed a rubbish manager as replacement |  | | |
| Stoke on 21:29 - Sep 27 with 1447 views | EastTownBlue |
| Stoke on 21:08 - Sep 27 by SitfcB |
They sacked their long serving manager after a few fans got annoyed with him, and his style. Gone well for them hasn’t it...
Hmmmmmmmmmmm... |
Initially it worked out very well as Stoke had three consecutive seasons of finishing in 9th place, which was better than the long serving manager had achieved. |  | | |
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| Stoke on 21:36 - Sep 27 with 1434 views | Dubtractor |
| Stoke on 21:08 - Sep 27 by SitfcB |
They sacked their long serving manager after a few fans got annoyed with him, and his style. Gone well for them hasn’t it...
Hmmmmmmmmmmm... |
Tenuous at best. Mark Hughes was there 5 seasons before they got relegated, |  |
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| Stoke on 21:42 - Sep 27 with 1410 views | BlueyandCrazy |
| Stoke on 21:36 - Sep 27 by Dubtractor |
Tenuous at best. Mark Hughes was there 5 seasons before they got relegated, |
It was well past the Pulis era when the decline set in. Hughes was successful initially in evolving the style and the squad, then became stale and didn’t know how to evolve it further, got rid of the wrong players e.g. Walters | |
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| Stoke on 22:04 - Sep 27 with 1368 views | strikalite |
Dunno but everything goes for you when you're at the top and totally against you when you're battling away at the bottom, that Forest third killed Stoke off, but damn lucky the way it just fell for LG six yards out that's for sure.. |  | | |
| Stoke on 22:06 - Sep 27 with 1365 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Stoke on 22:04 - Sep 27 by strikalite |
Dunno but everything goes for you when you're at the top and totally against you when you're battling away at the bottom, that Forest third killed Stoke off, but damn lucky the way it just fell for LG six yards out that's for sure.. |
I thought Stoke showed some fight at the end.
I don't recall us doing that much at all last season.
I suspect Nathan Jones will be gone tonight and there must be something for the new manager to work with. | |
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| Stoke on 22:08 - Sep 27 with 1357 views | strikalite |
| Stoke on 22:06 - Sep 27 by Nthsuffolkblue |
I thought Stoke showed some fight at the end.
I don't recall us doing that much at all last season.
I suspect Nathan Jones will be gone tonight and there must be something for the new manager to work with. |
Honestly thought he'd be gone after the Crawley game, but yeah 4 wins in 34 games or something like that is a sacking stat.. | | | |
| Stoke on 07:00 - Sep 28 with 1090 views | Johnny_Boy |
| Stoke on 21:36 - Sep 27 by Dubtractor |
Tenuous at best. Mark Hughes was there 5 seasons before they got relegated, |
Sitters pines for the days of an empty stadium, dire attritional football & a chippy miserable manager. |  | | |
| Huddersfield on 07:47 - Sep 28 with 1012 views | keighleyblue |
Also in the 'scheiss'. No wins, 1 draw, 7 defeats. We will be passing them on the way up |  | | |
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