| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers 08:23 - Sep 28 with 24119 views | BrixtonBlue |
A genuine mistake I'm sure, but certainly something those spreading rumours of disharmony need to have an answer for.
When Hurst said, “When I say things people can always think, ‘He’s only just saying that’ or whatever, so I prefer it when other people perhaps speak about things like that,” Phil preceded that by saying he was talking about the strength in depth of the squad.
He wasn't. He was talking about the mood in the camp and squad harmony.
This is what was said right before that, by Stuart Watson;
"Dean Gerken has just been in here, joking aside, saying how great the mood is in the camp and he's been here a long time and he's saying, you know, it's up there with the best it's ever been and very bubbly, speaking very genuinely about the music's always on, you know, through the week it's always good..."
This rather flies in the face of what people have been saying about players being upset, Hurst being dictatorial, Doig offering people outside etc.
Could it be one or two rumblings have been exaggerated through Chinese whispers somewhat?
People may well have, "heard stuff from within the club," but even that can be wrong. We've all worked in offices, I'm sure, where rumours have been flying round and they're total bowlocks. Frankly it's irresponsible and damaging to the club to be spreading this stuff. What purpose does it serve (other than people thinking it makes them look good being 'in the know')?
It's interesting that there's been pages and pages about the so-called problems, yet this bit I've posted above I haven't seen mentioned by anyone, not even Phil.
Some of the 'support' for this club I see on here is baffling at times (again, not a dig at Phil who I'm sure made a genuine mistake).
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| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 23:02 - Sep 28 with 2480 views | LankHenners |
| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 22:54 - Sep 28 by BrixtonBlue |
That's Hurst's follow up, talking about what another player said. |
And? You were arguing that 'best we've ever had' wasn't about squad depth and the quote you provided yourself proves you wrong. |  |
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| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 23:02 - Sep 28 with 2476 views | BrixtonBlue |
| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 22:09 - Sep 28 by Bogblue |
Because Hurst immediatly goes on to discuss strength in depth, the convo isn't just one-way.
I meant the *misinterpretation* is very slight, not the situation of squad harmony or disharmony.
Nobody's disputing Gerken's comment that the mood is generally bubbly are they?
What you could have picked up which would have been more worthwhile is the bit about whether the sqad are able to carry the bubbly mood through to match days, because what emerges from that bit of the interview is that atm, it isn't |
Yes Hurst does discuss strength in depth - as ANOTHER thing he's glad others have talked about, not just him.
Have you listened to the bit above where I say his tone changes? It's because he's adding a further point. He's adding squad depth to the squad harmony point.
"Nobody's disputing Gerken's comment that the mood is generally bubbly are they?"
They certainly are! Have you read the rest of the thread? Phil says Hurst is clarifying what Gerken said. He's not, he's adding to it by saying, "not only is the squad mood good but the strength in depth is too... and I'm glad other people are saying both these things because you might not believe it if it was just me saying it." | |
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| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 23:04 - Sep 28 with 2465 views | BrixtonBlue |
| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 22:29 - Sep 28 by Bogblue |
I got "they feel, strength in depth, it's the best squad we've had"
and just before that (26.17) "they think it's the best *squad* that we've had (Hurst's emphasis which again makes his meaning clear).
Perhaps Brixton should get his ears checked! |
But I'm talking about what Gerken said, not what Hurst said in his follow up.
My hearing's fine. I have listed everything everyone said... including the bits you've just quoted. | |
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| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 23:10 - Sep 28 with 2454 views | BrixtonBlue |
| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 23:02 - Sep 28 by LankHenners |
And? You were arguing that 'best we've ever had' wasn't about squad depth and the quote you provided yourself proves you wrong. |
No I wasn't. Are you wilfully misrepresenting what I've said?
GERKEN said: "the best it's ever been" referring to the mood in the camp.
HURST said: "I’ve had a player say to me that they think it’s the best squad that we’ve had" referring to squad depth (and a different player saying that). | |
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| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 23:27 - Sep 28 with 2419 views | LankHenners |
| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 23:10 - Sep 28 by BrixtonBlue |
No I wasn't. Are you wilfully misrepresenting what I've said?
GERKEN said: "the best it's ever been" referring to the mood in the camp.
HURST said: "I’ve had a player say to me that they think it’s the best squad that we’ve had" referring to squad depth (and a different player saying that). |
If I've misrepresented you it's because of your ambiguity as to what your exact gripe is here.
Not to split hairs but, as you pointed out, he said 'up there with the best', and a player's hardly going to come out in front of the camera and say 'it's sh!t, we don't like him' etc.
Phil's reporting was accurate, several other people agree with him and yet once again you believe you must be right. | |
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| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 23:30 - Sep 28 with 2410 views | BrixtonBlue |
| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 23:27 - Sep 28 by LankHenners |
If I've misrepresented you it's because of your ambiguity as to what your exact gripe is here.
Not to split hairs but, as you pointed out, he said 'up there with the best', and a player's hardly going to come out in front of the camera and say 'it's sh!t, we don't like him' etc.
Phil's reporting was accurate, several other people agree with him and yet once again you believe you must be right. |
I'm done.
I've spelt it out.
There's no ambiguity as to what my gripe is. | |
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| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 23:39 - Sep 28 with 2401 views | Bogblue |
| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 23:04 - Sep 28 by BrixtonBlue |
But I'm talking about what Gerken said, not what Hurst said in his follow up.
My hearing's fine. I have listed everything everyone said... including the bits you've just quoted. |
OK, look, I understand your point but think it would be more profitable to focus on what came out at a tangent from the mood in the camp thing, and that's whether the mood during the week or on training days is being carried through onto match days which Watson implied it wasnt being. And if not why not |  | | |
| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 00:40 - Sep 29 with 2367 views | BrixtonBlue |
| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 23:39 - Sep 28 by Bogblue |
OK, look, I understand your point but think it would be more profitable to focus on what came out at a tangent from the mood in the camp thing, and that's whether the mood during the week or on training days is being carried through onto match days which Watson implied it wasnt being. And if not why not |
Oh absolutely. All that really matters right now is how we get that first win. | |
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| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 12:46 - Sep 29 with 2252 views | BrixtonBlue |
| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 13:37 - Sep 28 by Bogblue |
Phil has clarified, so I think you should apologise & edit your headline tbh |
Phil has written a story today showing my version was correct - Gerken WAS talking about squad harmony not depth.
I'll wait patiently for YOUR apology shall I?
And everyone else in this thread that didn't believe me. Including Phil. | |
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| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 12:51 - Sep 29 with 2246 views | BrixtonBlue |
| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 10:50 - Sep 28 by PhilTWTD |
In the full quote PH clarifies, saying the player meant in terms of strength in depth.
"I’ve had a player say to me that they think it’s the best squad that we’ve had. Again, straight away I know people will say we haven’t got Martyn Waghorn, we haven’t got Adam Webster or Joe Garner and I’m not going to comment on that but they feel that in terms of strength in depth it’s the best squad we’ve had." |
So Phil, your story today shows the player meant squad harmony - as I said - not strength in depth as you've said here.
Anything to add?
An apology from the below would be nice too...
SomethingBlue
HarryfromBath
Bogblue
jeera
clive_baker
C_HealyIsAPleasure
Libero | |
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| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 12:58 - Sep 29 with 2229 views | Benters2 |
| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 12:51 - Sep 29 by BrixtonBlue |
So Phil, your story today shows the player meant squad harmony - as I said - not strength in depth as you've said here.
Anything to add?
An apology from the below would be nice too...
SomethingBlue
HarryfromBath
Bogblue
jeera
clive_baker
C_HealyIsAPleasure
Libero |
I dont like seeing that list to be honest.
Are you ok?
Perhaps you need some sherbet or a bottle of posh lager you lot drink in the smoke? | | | |
| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 13:06 - Sep 29 with 2212 views | BrixtonBlue |
| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 12:58 - Sep 29 by Benters2 |
I dont like seeing that list to be honest.
Are you ok?
Perhaps you need some sherbet or a bottle of posh lager you lot drink in the smoke? |
Why don't you like seeing that list Benters? Don't like to see people disagreeing with me? That's fine, but thanks for your concern.
I drink posh water these days, not lager.
We had lunch in a fancy restaurant yesterday that cost £46 (and obviously didn't include alcohol). I bet you hate that.
Mine was a fancy kebab... so you can go around saying Dollers eats £50 doner kebabs now! | |
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| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 13:09 - Sep 29 with 2203 views | giant_stow |
| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 12:51 - Sep 29 by BrixtonBlue |
So Phil, your story today shows the player meant squad harmony - as I said - not strength in depth as you've said here.
Anything to add?
An apology from the below would be nice too...
SomethingBlue
HarryfromBath
Bogblue
jeera
clive_baker
C_HealyIsAPleasure
Libero |
Maybe Phil changed it to be nice to you? Duty of care and all that... |  |
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| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 13:11 - Sep 29 with 2196 views | BrixtonBlue |
| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 13:09 - Sep 29 by giant_stow |
Maybe Phil changed it to be nice to you? Duty of care and all that... |
Perhaps. Us baldies like to stick together. | |
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| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 13:16 - Sep 29 with 2184 views | SomethingBlue |
| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 12:51 - Sep 29 by BrixtonBlue |
So Phil, your story today shows the player meant squad harmony - as I said - not strength in depth as you've said here.
Anything to add?
An apology from the below would be nice too...
SomethingBlue
HarryfromBath
Bogblue
jeera
clive_baker
C_HealyIsAPleasure
Libero |
Think if anything an apology is still due to Phil for the title of this thread, so I'll pass. | |
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| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 13:20 - Sep 29 with 2172 views | horsehollerer |
What a disgustingly disrespectful thread. Maybe you should take a few days away from here, after you've apologised to Phil? |  |
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| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 13:21 - Sep 29 with 2167 views | BrixtonBlue |
| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 13:16 - Sep 29 by SomethingBlue |
Think if anything an apology is still due to Phil for the title of this thread, so I'll pass. |
Even though it's been proved correct? Proved correct by Phil himself in actual fact!
You're normally one of the sensible ones on here Something. Surprised you can't man up and admit you were wrong. | |
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| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 13:25 - Sep 29 with 2159 views | LankHenners |
| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 13:21 - Sep 29 by BrixtonBlue |
Even though it's been proved correct? Proved correct by Phil himself in actual fact!
You're normally one of the sensible ones on here Something. Surprised you can't man up and admit you were wrong. |
Regardless of who’s in the right in this case, being rude and acting like a petulant child isn’t going to get people on your side. | |
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| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 13:27 - Sep 29 with 2147 views | BrixtonBlue |
| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 13:20 - Sep 29 by horsehollerer |
What a disgustingly disrespectful thread. Maybe you should take a few days away from here, after you've apologised to Phil? |
Let's not let the facts get in the way shall we?
If Phil wants to ban me for saying I think he made a genuine error he's perfectly entitled to. It's his website and he does an excellent job. But I won't apologise when all I'm doing is showing I care how my club is represented. | |
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| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 13:30 - Sep 29 with 2140 views | SomethingBlue |
| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 13:21 - Sep 29 by BrixtonBlue |
Even though it's been proved correct? Proved correct by Phil himself in actual fact!
You're normally one of the sensible ones on here Something. Surprised you can't man up and admit you were wrong. |
You are completely missing the point here. | |
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| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 13:50 - Sep 29 with 2083 views | Bogblue |
| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 12:46 - Sep 29 by BrixtonBlue |
Phil has written a story today showing my version was correct - Gerken WAS talking about squad harmony not depth.
I'll wait patiently for YOUR apology shall I?
And everyone else in this thread that didn't believe me. Including Phil. |
"Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 23:39 - Sep 28 by Bogblue
OK, look, I understand your point but think it would be more profitable to focus on what came out at a tangent from the mood in the camp thing, and that's whether the mood during the week or on training days is being carried through onto match days which Watson implied it wasnt being. And if not why not "
Throughout, I spelled out that I thought it was all *slight* variance in interpretation. You are coming across like a petulant child in your tone | | | |
| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 13:58 - Sep 29 with 2056 views | Benters2 |
| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 13:20 - Sep 29 by horsehollerer |
What a disgustingly disrespectful thread. Maybe you should take a few days away from here, after you've apologised to Phil? |
I make you right | | | |
| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 14:02 - Sep 29 with 2052 views | PhilTWTD |
| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 12:51 - Sep 29 by BrixtonBlue |
So Phil, your story today shows the player meant squad harmony - as I said - not strength in depth as you've said here.
Anything to add?
An apology from the below would be nice too...
SomethingBlue
HarryfromBath
Bogblue
jeera
clive_baker
C_HealyIsAPleasure
Libero |
Just that you're still misunderstanding what was said. The player PH was referring to wasn't Gerken, or at least if it was he deliberately didn't specify that it was. PH hadn't heard what DG had said to us incidentally. |  | | |
| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 14:42 - Sep 29 with 2309 views | Lord_Lucan |
I think this thread is funny. |  |
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| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 14:46 - Sep 29 with 2302 views | BrixtonBlue |
| Misreporting by Phil - and quite crucial given the 'def info' rumour mongers on 13:25 - Sep 29 by LankHenners |
Regardless of who’s in the right in this case, being rude and acting like a petulant child isn’t going to get people on your side. |
Don't think I've acted either petulant or like a child, but there you go. Everyone will have their own opinion. | |
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