| George and Terry 10:28 - May 5 with 7158 views | itfc1981 |
Given what we have endured - it seems a very high % of Town fans would welcome this.
Sort it Marcus! |  |
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| George and Terry on 10:42 - May 5 with 5330 views | Johnny_Boy |
Burley: "Why can’t we get in the play-offs? Why can’t we get back in the Premier League? You’ve got to have ambition otherwise what’s the point?”
Can't disagree with that. |  | | |
| George and Terry on 11:25 - May 5 with 5263 views | Herbivore |
| George and Terry on 10:42 - May 5 by Johnny_Boy |
Burley: "Why can’t we get in the play-offs? Why can’t we get back in the Premier League? You’ve got to have ambition otherwise what’s the point?”
Can't disagree with that. |
Saying nice things in the press shouldn't be the basis of our decision about our next manager. |  |
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| George and Terry on 11:31 - May 5 with 5263 views | Johnny_Boy |
| George and Terry on 11:25 - May 5 by Herbivore |
Saying nice things in the press shouldn't be the basis of our decision about our next manager. |
On the contrary.
- Anyone happy to publicly discuss their footballing philosophy shouldn't be seen as a negative.
- Anyone vocally expressing how they will positively change the club should be welcomed, not dismissed.
The club isn't in a fantastic place right now & it needs an overhaul. | | | |
| George and Terry on 11:36 - May 5 with 5247 views | Herbivore |
| George and Terry on 11:31 - May 5 by Johnny_Boy |
On the contrary.
- Anyone happy to publicly discuss their footballing philosophy shouldn't be seen as a negative.
- Anyone vocally expressing how they will positively change the club should be welcomed, not dismissed.
The club isn't in a fantastic place right now & it needs an overhaul. |
You're deluded. | |
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| George and Terry on 11:36 - May 5 with 5244 views | Kuqicoo |
| George and Terry on 11:31 - May 5 by Johnny_Boy |
On the contrary.
- Anyone happy to publicly discuss their footballing philosophy shouldn't be seen as a negative.
- Anyone vocally expressing how they will positively change the club should be welcomed, not dismissed.
The club isn't in a fantastic place right now & it needs an overhaul. |
It does need a overhaul. But going back I fear really isnt the answer.
It needs a totally fresh outlook. We need to look forward. George and Terry are legends but let's keep them that way.
I've heard some people say they would be safe hands. Fine, but isnt that what people were saying they didn't want? |  | | |
| George and Terry on 11:42 - May 5 with 5240 views | Johnny_Boy |
| George and Terry on 11:36 - May 5 by Herbivore |
You're deluded. |
Quite frankly, a spectacular assessment from somebody that's been delusional for well over 2 years.
You've been brainwashed into thinking positive passing football can't be achieved on a budget.
We need to hard reset you somehow. [Post edited 5 May 2018 12:04]
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| George and Terry on 12:08 - May 5 with 5202 views | bluerthanthou |
I don't think appointing GB and TB is looking backwards enough so I'll be campaigning for the ghost of Sir Alf Ramsey to be our new manager. |  | | |
| George and Terry on 12:19 - May 5 with 5172 views | WD19 |
For me the ‘stable management structure’ element of the 5 point plan is not covered unless GB has a younger wingman to bring through.
Would John McGreal take such a role? Probably too soon for Dyer (and I am not sure where the relationship is).
Something about Scott Parker appeals to me.
I worry GB is too much of an autocrat for such an approach, but will be interesting to see how that plays out. |  | | |
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| George and Terry on 12:20 - May 5 with 5172 views | Guthrum |
For one thing, we haven't 'endured' that much, really. No relegations, no financial collapse. Just the football's been a bit boring.
Secondly, who the fans may or may not welcome shouldn't be the prime consideration whan selecting a football manager, compared with competence, skillset, philosophy or experience.
That having been said, Burley has a pretty good managerial track record and still possesses a switched-on football brain. Worthy of consideration, but not necessarily a shoo-in. |  |
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| George and Terry on 12:24 - May 5 with 5152 views | Guthrum |
| George and Terry on 10:42 - May 5 by Johnny_Boy |
Burley: "Why can’t we get in the play-offs? Why can’t we get back in the Premier League? You’ve got to have ambition otherwise what’s the point?”
Can't disagree with that. |
You can't. But there also needs to be a well-formulated and viable plan to achieve those ambitions, otherwise it's just pie in the sky. | |
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| George and Terry on 12:40 - May 5 with 5119 views | Johnny_Boy |
| George and Terry on 12:24 - May 5 by Guthrum |
You can't. But there also needs to be a well-formulated and viable plan to achieve those ambitions, otherwise it's just pie in the sky. |
I just don't think there was that belief from the previous regime. The acceptance of not even trying to produce something tangible for the future, because financial constraints were simply used as an excuse not to implement them.
I don't think the fans are asking for the moon on a stick either. | | | |
| George and Terry on 13:32 - May 5 with 5040 views | Herbivore |
| George and Terry on 11:42 - May 5 by Johnny_Boy |
Quite frankly, a spectacular assessment from somebody that's been delusional for well over 2 years.
You've been brainwashed into thinking positive passing football can't be achieved on a budget.
We need to hard reset you somehow. [Post edited 5 May 2018 12:04]
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That's quite a leap, but then you specialise in making random leaps of logic. I'm sure we can play positive football, that is not at odds with thinking we shouldn't go near someone who hasn't successfully managed a side in the current decade and who at 61 is hardly one for the future. Your short termism of thinking it'd be great to have Burley here even if only for a year shows you up as being clueless. That's the opposite of what we need, our best hope is a longer term plan that builds to promotion in 3-5 years. | |
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| George and Terry on 13:42 - May 5 with 5020 views | LeoMuff |
| George and Terry on 12:20 - May 5 by Guthrum |
For one thing, we haven't 'endured' that much, really. No relegations, no financial collapse. Just the football's been a bit boring.
Secondly, who the fans may or may not welcome shouldn't be the prime consideration whan selecting a football manager, compared with competence, skillset, philosophy or experience.
That having been said, Burley has a pretty good managerial track record and still possesses a switched-on football brain. Worthy of consideration, but not necessarily a shoo-in. |
Burleys an interting option to have but would be below someone like Hurst for me, we need something new.
However there must be a reasonable chance that anyone who’s club needs compensation may not happen, and then Burley comes above most others. |  |
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| George and Terry on 13:52 - May 5 with 4987 views | Johnny_Boy |
| George and Terry on 13:32 - May 5 by Herbivore |
That's quite a leap, but then you specialise in making random leaps of logic. I'm sure we can play positive football, that is not at odds with thinking we shouldn't go near someone who hasn't successfully managed a side in the current decade and who at 61 is hardly one for the future. Your short termism of thinking it'd be great to have Burley here even if only for a year shows you up as being clueless. That's the opposite of what we need, our best hope is a longer term plan that builds to promotion in 3-5 years. |
Our squad needs rebuilding. From top to bottom.
To think the previous manager left us in a rosey positive situation is so far from reality.
"He's given us back our club" they all lauded. But he's left it in total disrepair on & off the pitch.
That statement from Burley about players not even being able to pass the ball properly.
You mention short termism. Ironically. We've just had 5yrs of that. | | | |
| George and Terry on 13:57 - May 5 with 4966 views | LeoMuff |
| George and Terry on 13:52 - May 5 by Johnny_Boy |
Our squad needs rebuilding. From top to bottom.
To think the previous manager left us in a rosey positive situation is so far from reality.
"He's given us back our club" they all lauded. But he's left it in total disrepair on & off the pitch.
That statement from Burley about players not even being able to pass the ball properly.
You mention short termism. Ironically. We've just had 5yrs of that. |
No it doesn’t, there are plenty of decent players in that squad, luckily for us as we haven’t got a penny to spend to re build.
I really can’t see how he has left the club in disrepair, exaggerate much ? | |
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| George and Terry on 14:11 - May 5 with 4948 views | Johnny_Boy |
| George and Terry on 13:57 - May 5 by LeoMuff |
No it doesn’t, there are plenty of decent players in that squad, luckily for us as we haven’t got a penny to spend to re build.
I really can’t see how he has left the club in disrepair, exaggerate much ? |
It's a bang average squad peppered with Bart & Waggy. McG when he's off the treatment table. | | | |
| George and Terry on 14:25 - May 5 with 4905 views | LeoMuff |
| George and Terry on 14:11 - May 5 by Johnny_Boy |
It's a bang average squad peppered with Bart & Waggy. McG when he's off the treatment table. |
Well bang average is what we pay for, you might be in for a shock. So how does one afford a top level championship squad on magic bean spending levels ? | |
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| George and Terry on 14:28 - May 5 with 4895 views | Johnny_Boy |
| George and Terry on 14:25 - May 5 by LeoMuff |
Well bang average is what we pay for, you might be in for a shock. So how does one afford a top level championship squad on magic bean spending levels ? |
Maybe you should be asking Neil Harris or Alex Neil that question. | | | |
| George and Terry on 14:33 - May 5 with 4880 views | Guthrum |
Also, what about Mildred and June? | |
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| George and Terry on 14:49 - May 5 with 4839 views | BrixtonBlue |
| George and Terry on 14:11 - May 5 by Johnny_Boy |
It's a bang average squad peppered with Bart & Waggy. McG when he's off the treatment table. |
Wow, you're discounting ALL of our exciting young talent? |  |
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| George and Terry on 14:49 - May 5 with 4839 views | SonOfSpock |
It's not going to meet the criteria of Evans saying they're going to try something different for the next manager |  | | |
| George and Terry on 14:50 - May 5 with 4829 views | BrixtonBlue |
| George and Terry on 13:52 - May 5 by Johnny_Boy |
Our squad needs rebuilding. From top to bottom.
To think the previous manager left us in a rosey positive situation is so far from reality.
"He's given us back our club" they all lauded. But he's left it in total disrepair on & off the pitch.
That statement from Burley about players not even being able to pass the ball properly.
You mention short termism. Ironically. We've just had 5yrs of that. |
"he's left it in total disrepair on & off the pitch."
Even though you made that statement you must know that it's absolute nonsense? | |
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| George and Terry on 14:52 - May 5 with 4827 views | Guthrum |
| George and Terry on 14:49 - May 5 by SonOfSpock |
It's not going to meet the criteria of Evans saying they're going to try something different for the next manager |
Is that what Evans actually said?
Or was it that they were going to try something 'different, but calculated' with the team/system/style/philosophy/integration of the club/etc. and would get a manager who was capable of implementing it? | |
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| George and Terry on 14:54 - May 5 with 4821 views | manchego |
| George and Terry on 10:42 - May 5 by Johnny_Boy |
Burley: "Why can’t we get in the play-offs? Why can’t we get back in the Premier League? You’ve got to have ambition otherwise what’s the point?”
Can't disagree with that. |
You don't already think we are looking for an ambitious manager who thinks he can get us promoted ? |  | | |
| George and Terry on 14:58 - May 5 with 4812 views | Guthrum |
| George and Terry on 12:40 - May 5 by Johnny_Boy |
I just don't think there was that belief from the previous regime. The acceptance of not even trying to produce something tangible for the future, because financial constraints were simply used as an excuse not to implement them.
I don't think the fans are asking for the moon on a stick either. |
I think with McCarthy it was a case of "repeat the formula until a roll of the dice succeeds". That same formula which did get us in the play-offs, but was subsequently scuppered by injury, lack of player form/ability/acquisition and too much defensiveness when things were going badly.
For a realistic tilt at the Prem, if no extra money is being spent, then we need a really tight, integrated plan - probably building over several seasons - with some inbuilt proofing against the issues which plagued McCarthy's later period. And not to be knocked off that path by adversity (short, obviously, of risking relegation). | |
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