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For all those who want Maurice Steijn as our next manager... 12:53 - Apr 2 with 5354 viewsJackSted

VVV-Venlo are currently the second-lowest goal scorers in the Eredivisie with only 31 goals in 29 games.

I know all of you want high-scoring, fast-paced games but I can honestly imagine all of you whining next season if we only score 31 goals in 29 games.

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For all those who want Maurice Steijn as our next manager... on 12:54 - Apr 2 with 5331 viewsLimitlessBlue

different country, different league, different players....

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For all those who want Maurice Steijn as our next manager... on 12:57 - Apr 2 with 5307 viewsJackSted

For all those who want Maurice Steijn as our next manager... on 12:54 - Apr 2 by LimitlessBlue

different country, different league, different players....


Frank de Boer, when managing Ajax, was doing amazing well but as soon as he joined Crystal Palace they could barely have a shot on goal.
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For all those who want Maurice Steijn as our next manager... on 12:58 - Apr 2 with 5300 viewsHarry_Palmer

- It's their first season in the top flight.
- They have the lowest budget.
- They will stay up comfortably.

I'd say that's a decent achievement and I doubt their fans will have been expecting them to smash 3 or 4 in every week.
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For all those who want Maurice Steijn as our next manager... on 12:59 - Apr 2 with 5285 viewsLuke40885

For all those who want Maurice Steijn as our next manager... on 12:54 - Apr 2 by LimitlessBlue

different country, different league, different players....


Burnley, in our Top League (some would say the best in the world) have only scored 29 goals in 31 Games. Most people would say they’re doing alright...

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For all those who want Maurice Steijn as our next manager... on 13:04 - Apr 2 with 5222 viewsJohnny_Boy

That's the spirit!
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For all those who want Maurice Steijn as our next manager... on 13:06 - Apr 2 with 5203 viewsPinewoodblue

For all those who want Maurice Steijn as our next manager... on 12:59 - Apr 2 by Luke40885

Burnley, in our Top League (some would say the best in the world) have only scored 29 goals in 31 Games. Most people would say they’re doing alright...


Anther thread cut short by someone being irresponsible and bringing facts into it.

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For all those who want Maurice Steijn as our next manager... on 13:08 - Apr 2 with 5175 viewsBluefish

For all those who want Maurice Steijn as our next manager... on 12:58 - Apr 2 by Harry_Palmer

- It's their first season in the top flight.
- They have the lowest budget.
- They will stay up comfortably.

I'd say that's a decent achievement and I doubt their fans will have been expecting them to smash 3 or 4 in every week.


If he comes here he will still have a low budget. What would the expectation be?

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For all those who want Maurice Steijn as our next manager... on 13:08 - Apr 2 with 5178 viewsITFCBlues

For all those who want Maurice Steijn as our next manager... on 12:58 - Apr 2 by Harry_Palmer

- It's their first season in the top flight.
- They have the lowest budget.
- They will stay up comfortably.

I'd say that's a decent achievement and I doubt their fans will have been expecting them to smash 3 or 4 in every week.


On that basis, why haven’t we stuck with Mick?

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For all those who want Maurice Steijn as our next manager... on 13:10 - Apr 2 with 5157 viewsgosblue

For all those who want Maurice Steijn as our next manager... on 12:58 - Apr 2 by Harry_Palmer

- It's their first season in the top flight.
- They have the lowest budget.
- They will stay up comfortably.

I'd say that's a decent achievement and I doubt their fans will have been expecting them to smash 3 or 4 in every week.


5th best defence in the division is a good platform to build on. I still think he would be a popular choice especially if we could get someone like Reuser as his assistant. It could be something to get excited about.
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For all those who want Maurice Steijn as our next manager... on 13:14 - Apr 2 with 5134 viewsLuke40885

For all those who want Maurice Steijn as our next manager... on 13:10 - Apr 2 by gosblue

5th best defence in the division is a good platform to build on. I still think he would be a popular choice especially if we could get someone like Reuser as his assistant. It could be something to get excited about.


On the other hand, why would he leave.. is the English Championship considered a level par to Top Flight Eredivisie?

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For all those who want Maurice Steijn as our next manager... on 13:18 - Apr 2 with 5111 viewsHarry_Palmer

For all those who want Maurice Steijn as our next manager... on 13:08 - Apr 2 by ITFCBlues

On that basis, why haven’t we stuck with Mick?


Eh? I am explaining why a small Dutch team in their first season up are not scoring lots of goals.... and why this would not be a reason to totally discount their Manager.

Surely I don't have to explain to you why Mick is going?
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For all those who want Maurice Steijn as our next manager... on 13:18 - Apr 2 with 5107 viewstheblueginger

He's still my #1 choice. Something different, promotes youth and doesn't suffer fools by all accounts.
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For all those who want Maurice Steijn as our next manager... on 13:20 - Apr 2 with 5099 viewsHarry_Palmer

For all those who want Maurice Steijn as our next manager... on 13:08 - Apr 2 by Bluefish

If he comes here he will still have a low budget. What would the expectation be?


Top two in his first season knowing most of our supporters....
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For all those who want Maurice Steijn as our next manager... on 13:21 - Apr 2 with 5089 viewsLuke40885

For all those who want Maurice Steijn as our next manager... on 13:20 - Apr 2 by Harry_Palmer

Top two in his first season knowing most of our supporters....


Obviously, why else would we renew.

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For all those who want Maurice Steijn as our next manager... on 13:48 - Apr 2 with 5007 viewsC_HealyIsAPleasure

For all those who want Maurice Steijn as our next manager... on 13:18 - Apr 2 by Harry_Palmer

Eh? I am explaining why a small Dutch team in their first season up are not scoring lots of goals.... and why this would not be a reason to totally discount their Manager.

Surely I don't have to explain to you why Mick is going?


So you want to replace the manager who overperforms with one of the lowest budgets in the division, albeit with less than attractive football and a shortage of goals, with a manager from Holland who overperforms with one of the lowest budgets in the division, albeit with a shortage of goals (and presumably less attractive football although I can’t say that with certainty)

I would actually be really excited by an appointment like this, but I am struggling to see why some of the more vocal Mick outers are so keen

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For all those who want Maurice Steijn as our next manager... on 13:50 - Apr 2 with 4997 viewsC_HealyIsAPleasure

For all those who want Maurice Steijn as our next manager... on 13:14 - Apr 2 by Luke40885

On the other hand, why would he leave.. is the English Championship considered a level par to Top Flight Eredivisie?


In a word, yes

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For all those who want Maurice Steijn as our next manager... on 13:54 - Apr 2 with 4980 viewsLord_Lucan

For all those who want Maurice Steijn as our next manager... on 13:48 - Apr 2 by C_HealyIsAPleasure

So you want to replace the manager who overperforms with one of the lowest budgets in the division, albeit with less than attractive football and a shortage of goals, with a manager from Holland who overperforms with one of the lowest budgets in the division, albeit with a shortage of goals (and presumably less attractive football although I can’t say that with certainty)

I would actually be really excited by an appointment like this, but I am struggling to see why some of the more vocal Mick outers are so keen


I think Mick Mack has massively over performed by getting the calibre of players in that he has with little money, but he has also massively under performed in getting them to play football.

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For all those who want Maurice Steijn as our next manager... on 14:39 - Apr 2 with 4867 viewsGeoffSentence

For all those who want Maurice Steijn as our next manager... on 13:08 - Apr 2 by ITFCBlues

On that basis, why haven’t we stuck with Mick?


On the basis that Steijn has got his team promoted and doing well, whereas Mick hasn't.

See the difference?

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For all those who want Maurice Steijn as our next manager... on 14:42 - Apr 2 with 4846 viewsSpruceMoose

For all those who want Maurice Steijn as our next manager... on 13:50 - Apr 2 by C_HealyIsAPleasure

In a word, yes


So, finishing near the top would get you into that hat for playing in Europe rather than into the playoffs?

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For all those who want Maurice Steijn as our next manager... on 16:06 - Apr 2 with 4742 viewsSkuse4ballondor

They scored 75 goals in 38 games when they won promotion.
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For all those who want Maurice Steijn as our next manager... on 17:06 - Apr 2 with 4657 viewsHarry_Palmer

For all those who want Maurice Steijn as our next manager... on 13:48 - Apr 2 by C_HealyIsAPleasure

So you want to replace the manager who overperforms with one of the lowest budgets in the division, albeit with less than attractive football and a shortage of goals, with a manager from Holland who overperforms with one of the lowest budgets in the division, albeit with a shortage of goals (and presumably less attractive football although I can’t say that with certainty)

I would actually be really excited by an appointment like this, but I am struggling to see why some of the more vocal Mick outers are so keen


I didn't say I wanted him, I was merely pointing out the flaws in the point raised in the OP.
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