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Wasn't someone running a sweepstake 18:34 - Jun 16 with 27873 viewsimsureazzure

on the date for the first riot?

16th or 17th of June for me.
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Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 22:55 - Jun 16 with 4323 viewsvapour_trail

Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 22:52 - Jun 16 by blue_oyster

A lot of people forget the fact that he was guilty.


Ha ha. I take back the pointless remark, which was harsh.

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Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 22:58 - Jun 16 with 4318 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 22:44 - Jun 16 by lowhouseblue

the down arrow is for imposing a crass political world view on a human tragedy affecting real people. you are the guy who turns up at the back of a crowd of grieving relatives with an swp placard.


Interesting then that I was writing my comment posted at 22:52 when you were coming up with this drivel #clueless. (which I read at 22:56).......maybe lowlifeblue would suit you better !

"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
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Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:00 - Jun 16 with 4311 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 22:44 - Jun 16 by lowhouseblue

the down arrow is for imposing a crass political world view on a human tragedy affecting real people. you are the guy who turns up at the back of a crowd of grieving relatives with an swp placard.


I stated a couple of weeks back that I despise the swp even more than average tories like yourself !

"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
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Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:01 - Jun 16 with 4311 viewsPlums

Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 22:51 - Jun 16 by vapour_trail

I'd be genuinely surprised if responsibility for crisis management doesn't sit right at the top table. It has anywhere I have worked.


Executive sponsorship maybe but that's usually little more than a compliance function. Sure, a CEO will be a Gold level liaison and might chair a CM team but doesn't mean they've resourced the planning function properly. Primacy always has been and always will be an issue for emergency management.
[Post edited 16 Jun 2017 23:02]

It's 106 miles to Portman Road, we've got a full tank of gas, half a round of Port Salut, it's dark... and we're wearing blue tinted sunglasses.
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Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:03 - Jun 16 with 4305 viewslowhouseblue

Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 22:58 - Jun 16 by BanksterDebtSlave

Interesting then that I was writing my comment posted at 22:52 when you were coming up with this drivel #clueless. (which I read at 22:56).......maybe lowlifeblue would suit you better !


what??

And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show

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Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:04 - Jun 16 with 4303 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 22:44 - Jun 16 by lowhouseblue

the down arrow is for imposing a crass political world view on a human tragedy affecting real people. you are the guy who turns up at the back of a crowd of grieving relatives with an swp placard.


If only it was the "Crass" world view I approve of I would be flattered.Which bits about property and commodity speculation do you find crass ?


"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
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Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:08 - Jun 16 with 4292 viewsxrayspecs

Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 22:51 - Jun 16 by vapour_trail

I'd be genuinely surprised if responsibility for crisis management doesn't sit right at the top table. It has anywhere I have worked.


So Manchester, Borough Market. Response run by central government. Not the case, sorry.

Not how it works.
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Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:10 - Jun 16 with 4283 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:03 - Jun 16 by lowhouseblue

what??


Keep up Tory boy how does this
"the down arrow is for imposing a crass political world view on a human tragedy affecting real people. you are the guy who turns up at the back of a crowd of grieving relatives with an swp placard." (You)
Square with this .....
"In relation to the op I seriously hope rioting doesn't result as it will give an easy get out card for the politicians and will likely be instigated by those at the fringes of this tragedy or with no connection at all. How to keep the pressure high and public though is the real problem as the world will move on.......it's what public enquiries are for, to kick real issues into the long grass. " (Me)

"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
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Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:11 - Jun 16 with 4278 viewsPlums

Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:08 - Jun 16 by xrayspecs

So Manchester, Borough Market. Response run by central government. Not the case, sorry.

Not how it works.


Looks as though we're mixing corporate crisis management with civil emergency planning. Two very different disciplines.

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Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:15 - Jun 16 with 4263 viewslowhouseblue

Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:10 - Jun 16 by BanksterDebtSlave

Keep up Tory boy how does this
"the down arrow is for imposing a crass political world view on a human tragedy affecting real people. you are the guy who turns up at the back of a crowd of grieving relatives with an swp placard." (You)
Square with this .....
"In relation to the op I seriously hope rioting doesn't result as it will give an easy get out card for the politicians and will likely be instigated by those at the fringes of this tragedy or with no connection at all. How to keep the pressure high and public though is the real problem as the world will move on.......it's what public enquiries are for, to kick real issues into the long grass. " (Me)


yep, i'm still happy with my post thanks. says it all i think.

And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show

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Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:16 - Jun 16 with 4261 viewsvapour_trail

Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:01 - Jun 16 by Plums

Executive sponsorship maybe but that's usually little more than a compliance function. Sure, a CEO will be a Gold level liaison and might chair a CM team but doesn't mean they've resourced the planning function properly. Primacy always has been and always will be an issue for emergency management.
[Post edited 16 Jun 2017 23:02]


That isn't my experience, but perhaps you're right, there certainly doesn't seem to be enough oomph behind it.

This sort of thing needs lead from the top, or it won't be first for purpose.

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Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:19 - Jun 16 with 4250 viewsPlums

Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:16 - Jun 16 by vapour_trail

That isn't my experience, but perhaps you're right, there certainly doesn't seem to be enough oomph behind it.

This sort of thing needs lead from the top, or it won't be first for purpose.


Check out the salary. A good corporate BC manager can earn 6 figures...
https://www.prospects.ac.uk/job-profiles/emergency-planning-management-officer

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Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:21 - Jun 16 with 4236 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:15 - Jun 16 by lowhouseblue

yep, i'm still happy with my post thanks. says it all i think.


That's alright then as long you get to feel that you're on the money ......so the detail on what you disagree about regarding speculating by your spiv mates ?

Edit....out of interest when did you last accept being completely wrong about anything ?
[Post edited 16 Jun 2017 23:24]

"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
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Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:22 - Jun 16 with 4232 viewsvapour_trail

Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:19 - Jun 16 by Plums

Check out the salary. A good corporate BC manager can earn 6 figures...
https://www.prospects.ac.uk/job-profiles/emergency-planning-management-officer


Hmm. Fair point.

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Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:29 - Jun 16 with 4204 viewsStokieBlue

Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:19 - Jun 16 by Plums

Check out the salary. A good corporate BC manager can earn 6 figures...
https://www.prospects.ac.uk/job-profiles/emergency-planning-management-officer


The public sector is never going to compete with the private sector in such positions.

Unless everyone votes for much higher taxes.

SB

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Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:30 - Jun 16 with 4202 viewsPlums

Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:22 - Jun 16 by vapour_trail

Hmm. Fair point.


This just popped up in a side bar ad:
https://www.cv-library.co.uk/job/205982942/Emergency-Planning-Officer?s=100616

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Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:32 - Jun 16 with 4196 viewsvapour_trail

Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:29 - Jun 16 by StokieBlue

The public sector is never going to compete with the private sector in such positions.

Unless everyone votes for much higher taxes.

SB


I work in the third sector which benchmarks for salary against the public sector, and we take risk and bc a bit more seriously than that.

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Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:32 - Jun 16 with 4195 viewsPlums

Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:29 - Jun 16 by StokieBlue

The public sector is never going to compete with the private sector in such positions.

Unless everyone votes for much higher taxes.

SB


Of course it won't. However, in hierarchical public bodies, poorly paid people have little upward influence and emergency planning is relatively poorly paid in relation to the responsibility borne by the post holder.

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Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:35 - Jun 16 with 4184 viewsvapour_trail

Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:30 - Jun 16 by Plums

This just popped up in a side bar ad:
https://www.cv-library.co.uk/job/205982942/Emergency-Planning-Officer?s=100616


You realise you're going to get bombarded with linked in invites now from consultants specialising in under funded business continuity opportunities.

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Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:37 - Jun 16 with 4178 viewsPlums

Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:35 - Jun 16 by vapour_trail

You realise you're going to get bombarded with linked in invites now from consultants specialising in under funded business continuity opportunities.


That's fine. I might need them when my current contract expires!

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Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:37 - Jun 16 with 4176 viewsGuthrum

Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 22:38 - Jun 16 by xrayspecs

Despite claims of austerity, total government expenditure has increased year on year since before the 2005 financial crisis.

Osborn did not cut total spending in any year he was Chancellor, and neither has Hammond.

http://www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/spending_chart_1999_2020UKb_17c1li111mcn_F0t

The issue is that it has not kept up with our rising expectations. JC is fuelling these further. The question then remains how do you raise the revenue to pay for this?


Be interesting to look at cost increases over the same time period.

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Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 22:41 - Jun 17 with 4113 viewsHARRY10

they better be getting a move on as there's just over an hour left

and the Sunday papers go to print in about a half an hour ...

...................and the Daily Mail already has it's headlines, it's pictures and it's condemnation
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Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 01:10 - Jun 18 with 4086 viewsimsureazzure

Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:04 - Jun 16 by BanksterDebtSlave

If only it was the "Crass" world view I approve of I would be flattered.Which bits about property and commodity speculation do you find crass ?



Sell out commercial depression band.

Big A little A bouncing B System might hava got you but it aint got me.

Bollox.
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Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 01:45 - Jun 18 with 4071 viewsHARRY10

Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 22:38 - Jun 16 by xrayspecs

Despite claims of austerity, total government expenditure has increased year on year since before the 2005 financial crisis.

Osborn did not cut total spending in any year he was Chancellor, and neither has Hammond.

http://www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/spending_chart_1999_2020UKb_17c1li111mcn_F0t

The issue is that it has not kept up with our rising expectations. JC is fuelling these further. The question then remains how do you raise the revenue to pay for this?


2005 financial crisis ?

there was one then ?

Unfortunately, as with thatcher, much of the increase has been used for welfare spending as the economy has been slowly choked off

those who really benefit from a better educated and trained workforce will be obliged to pay towards it (corporation tax)

we cannot continue with an economy based on rising debt and share prices rising as directors squeeze more bonuses by short term profit

seven years of austerity and banks printing have left us where ?

a deeply divided country where tens of thousands sit at home watching smug folk talk of spending half a million to buy somewhere in the country.... whilst youngsters struggle to find decent housing, never mind buy something

zero hours contracts that are heavily subsidised by the state (public spending, sky high rents that are paid by housing benefit (public spending) and huge numbers of agency healthcare staff to cover shortages because austerity has meant cuts to training

we can and must do better, change the direction we are going

and maybe it will mean folk actually bothering to inform themselves rather than simply regurgitating anything as long as it supports their case
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Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 08:51 - Jun 18 with 4044 viewsHerbivore

Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 22:38 - Jun 16 by xrayspecs

Despite claims of austerity, total government expenditure has increased year on year since before the 2005 financial crisis.

Osborn did not cut total spending in any year he was Chancellor, and neither has Hammond.

http://www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/spending_chart_1999_2020UKb_17c1li111mcn_F0t

The issue is that it has not kept up with our rising expectations. JC is fuelling these further. The question then remains how do you raise the revenue to pay for this?


Local government has seen cuts of up to 40% in its budget since 2010. Claims of austerity? Come off it pal.

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