Wasn't someone running a sweepstake 18:34 - Jun 16 with 27873 views | imsureazzure | on the date for the first riot? 16th or 17th of June for me. | | | | |
Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 22:55 - Jun 16 with 4323 views | vapour_trail |
Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 22:52 - Jun 16 by blue_oyster | A lot of people forget the fact that he was guilty. |
Ha ha. I take back the pointless remark, which was harsh. | |
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Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 22:58 - Jun 16 with 4318 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 22:44 - Jun 16 by lowhouseblue | the down arrow is for imposing a crass political world view on a human tragedy affecting real people. you are the guy who turns up at the back of a crowd of grieving relatives with an swp placard. |
Interesting then that I was writing my comment posted at 22:52 when you were coming up with this drivel #clueless. (which I read at 22:56).......maybe lowlifeblue would suit you better ! | |
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Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:00 - Jun 16 with 4311 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 22:44 - Jun 16 by lowhouseblue | the down arrow is for imposing a crass political world view on a human tragedy affecting real people. you are the guy who turns up at the back of a crowd of grieving relatives with an swp placard. |
I stated a couple of weeks back that I despise the swp even more than average tories like yourself ! | |
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Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:01 - Jun 16 with 4311 views | Plums |
Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 22:51 - Jun 16 by vapour_trail | I'd be genuinely surprised if responsibility for crisis management doesn't sit right at the top table. It has anywhere I have worked. |
Executive sponsorship maybe but that's usually little more than a compliance function. Sure, a CEO will be a Gold level liaison and might chair a CM team but doesn't mean they've resourced the planning function properly. Primacy always has been and always will be an issue for emergency management. [Post edited 16 Jun 2017 23:02]
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Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:03 - Jun 16 with 4305 views | lowhouseblue |
Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 22:58 - Jun 16 by BanksterDebtSlave | Interesting then that I was writing my comment posted at 22:52 when you were coming up with this drivel #clueless. (which I read at 22:56).......maybe lowlifeblue would suit you better ! |
what?? | |
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Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:04 - Jun 16 with 4303 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 22:44 - Jun 16 by lowhouseblue | the down arrow is for imposing a crass political world view on a human tragedy affecting real people. you are the guy who turns up at the back of a crowd of grieving relatives with an swp placard. |
If only it was the "Crass" world view I approve of I would be flattered.Which bits about property and commodity speculation do you find crass ? | |
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Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:08 - Jun 16 with 4292 views | xrayspecs |
Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 22:51 - Jun 16 by vapour_trail | I'd be genuinely surprised if responsibility for crisis management doesn't sit right at the top table. It has anywhere I have worked. |
So Manchester, Borough Market. Response run by central government. Not the case, sorry. Not how it works. | | | |
Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:10 - Jun 16 with 4283 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:03 - Jun 16 by lowhouseblue | what?? |
Keep up Tory boy how does this "the down arrow is for imposing a crass political world view on a human tragedy affecting real people. you are the guy who turns up at the back of a crowd of grieving relatives with an swp placard." (You) Square with this ..... "In relation to the op I seriously hope rioting doesn't result as it will give an easy get out card for the politicians and will likely be instigated by those at the fringes of this tragedy or with no connection at all. How to keep the pressure high and public though is the real problem as the world will move on.......it's what public enquiries are for, to kick real issues into the long grass. " (Me) | |
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Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:11 - Jun 16 with 4278 views | Plums |
Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:08 - Jun 16 by xrayspecs | So Manchester, Borough Market. Response run by central government. Not the case, sorry. Not how it works. |
Looks as though we're mixing corporate crisis management with civil emergency planning. Two very different disciplines. | |
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Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:15 - Jun 16 with 4263 views | lowhouseblue |
Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:10 - Jun 16 by BanksterDebtSlave | Keep up Tory boy how does this "the down arrow is for imposing a crass political world view on a human tragedy affecting real people. you are the guy who turns up at the back of a crowd of grieving relatives with an swp placard." (You) Square with this ..... "In relation to the op I seriously hope rioting doesn't result as it will give an easy get out card for the politicians and will likely be instigated by those at the fringes of this tragedy or with no connection at all. How to keep the pressure high and public though is the real problem as the world will move on.......it's what public enquiries are for, to kick real issues into the long grass. " (Me) |
yep, i'm still happy with my post thanks. says it all i think. | |
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Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:16 - Jun 16 with 4261 views | vapour_trail |
Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:01 - Jun 16 by Plums | Executive sponsorship maybe but that's usually little more than a compliance function. Sure, a CEO will be a Gold level liaison and might chair a CM team but doesn't mean they've resourced the planning function properly. Primacy always has been and always will be an issue for emergency management. [Post edited 16 Jun 2017 23:02]
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That isn't my experience, but perhaps you're right, there certainly doesn't seem to be enough oomph behind it. This sort of thing needs lead from the top, or it won't be first for purpose. | |
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Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:19 - Jun 16 with 4250 views | Plums |
Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:16 - Jun 16 by vapour_trail | That isn't my experience, but perhaps you're right, there certainly doesn't seem to be enough oomph behind it. This sort of thing needs lead from the top, or it won't be first for purpose. |
Check out the salary. A good corporate BC manager can earn 6 figures... https://www.prospects.ac.uk/job-profiles/emergency-planning-management-officer | |
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Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:21 - Jun 16 with 4236 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:15 - Jun 16 by lowhouseblue | yep, i'm still happy with my post thanks. says it all i think. |
That's alright then as long you get to feel that you're on the money ......so the detail on what you disagree about regarding speculating by your spiv mates ? Edit....out of interest when did you last accept being completely wrong about anything ? [Post edited 16 Jun 2017 23:24]
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Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:22 - Jun 16 with 4232 views | vapour_trail |
Hmm. Fair point. | |
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Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:29 - Jun 16 with 4204 views | StokieBlue |
The public sector is never going to compete with the private sector in such positions. Unless everyone votes for much higher taxes. SB | |
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Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:32 - Jun 16 with 4196 views | vapour_trail |
Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:29 - Jun 16 by StokieBlue | The public sector is never going to compete with the private sector in such positions. Unless everyone votes for much higher taxes. SB |
I work in the third sector which benchmarks for salary against the public sector, and we take risk and bc a bit more seriously than that. | |
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Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:32 - Jun 16 with 4195 views | Plums |
Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:29 - Jun 16 by StokieBlue | The public sector is never going to compete with the private sector in such positions. Unless everyone votes for much higher taxes. SB |
Of course it won't. However, in hierarchical public bodies, poorly paid people have little upward influence and emergency planning is relatively poorly paid in relation to the responsibility borne by the post holder. | |
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Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:35 - Jun 16 with 4184 views | vapour_trail |
You realise you're going to get bombarded with linked in invites now from consultants specialising in under funded business continuity opportunities. | |
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Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:37 - Jun 16 with 4178 views | Plums |
Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:35 - Jun 16 by vapour_trail | You realise you're going to get bombarded with linked in invites now from consultants specialising in under funded business continuity opportunities. |
That's fine. I might need them when my current contract expires! | |
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Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:37 - Jun 16 with 4176 views | Guthrum |
Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 22:38 - Jun 16 by xrayspecs | Despite claims of austerity, total government expenditure has increased year on year since before the 2005 financial crisis. Osborn did not cut total spending in any year he was Chancellor, and neither has Hammond. http://www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/spending_chart_1999_2020UKb_17c1li111mcn_F0t The issue is that it has not kept up with our rising expectations. JC is fuelling these further. The question then remains how do you raise the revenue to pay for this? |
Be interesting to look at cost increases over the same time period. | |
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Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 22:41 - Jun 17 with 4113 views | HARRY10 | they better be getting a move on as there's just over an hour left and the Sunday papers go to print in about a half an hour ... ...................and the Daily Mail already has it's headlines, it's pictures and it's condemnation | | | |
Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 01:10 - Jun 18 with 4086 views | imsureazzure |
Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 23:04 - Jun 16 by BanksterDebtSlave | If only it was the "Crass" world view I approve of I would be flattered.Which bits about property and commodity speculation do you find crass ? |
Sell out commercial depression band. Big A little A bouncing B System might hava got you but it aint got me. Bollox. | | | |
Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 01:45 - Jun 18 with 4071 views | HARRY10 |
Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 22:38 - Jun 16 by xrayspecs | Despite claims of austerity, total government expenditure has increased year on year since before the 2005 financial crisis. Osborn did not cut total spending in any year he was Chancellor, and neither has Hammond. http://www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/spending_chart_1999_2020UKb_17c1li111mcn_F0t The issue is that it has not kept up with our rising expectations. JC is fuelling these further. The question then remains how do you raise the revenue to pay for this? |
2005 financial crisis ? there was one then ? Unfortunately, as with thatcher, much of the increase has been used for welfare spending as the economy has been slowly choked off those who really benefit from a better educated and trained workforce will be obliged to pay towards it (corporation tax) we cannot continue with an economy based on rising debt and share prices rising as directors squeeze more bonuses by short term profit seven years of austerity and banks printing have left us where ? a deeply divided country where tens of thousands sit at home watching smug folk talk of spending half a million to buy somewhere in the country.... whilst youngsters struggle to find decent housing, never mind buy something zero hours contracts that are heavily subsidised by the state (public spending, sky high rents that are paid by housing benefit (public spending) and huge numbers of agency healthcare staff to cover shortages because austerity has meant cuts to training we can and must do better, change the direction we are going and maybe it will mean folk actually bothering to inform themselves rather than simply regurgitating anything as long as it supports their case | | | |
Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 08:51 - Jun 18 with 4044 views | Herbivore |
Wasn't someone running a sweepstake on 22:38 - Jun 16 by xrayspecs | Despite claims of austerity, total government expenditure has increased year on year since before the 2005 financial crisis. Osborn did not cut total spending in any year he was Chancellor, and neither has Hammond. http://www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/spending_chart_1999_2020UKb_17c1li111mcn_F0t The issue is that it has not kept up with our rising expectations. JC is fuelling these further. The question then remains how do you raise the revenue to pay for this? |
Local government has seen cuts of up to 40% in its budget since 2010. Claims of austerity? Come off it pal. | |
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