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Far-Flung Fans Meeting Up for Wednesday Clash
at 19:54:41

I'll be watching at the Woolpack Yard in Norwich
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East Anglian Derby All-Ticket
at 18:08:16

In other news this afternoon:

"Pope in 'is Catholic' shocker"
"You'll never guess what this bear did in the woods..."
"Millions amazed to discover that fire is hot"
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Grant Pleased Loan Deal Finally Confirmed
at 15:57:50

How do you mean, Mullet?
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Town to Appeal After Losing Police Costs Court Case
at 15:32:44

Martin

The club will have defined budgets for various areas of its operations. Part of this set up will include a legal/administrative budget. It could even be that the club/Marcus Evans Group has a legal team retained, which would mean costs are reduced/minimal.

Likewise, if ITFC win the case they should be able to recover costs from Suffolk Constabulary.

Bottom line, regardless of whether we appeal or not, the playing budget won't have been touched in order to fund this case.
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Town to Appeal After Losing Police Costs Court Case
at 15:26:56

Martin587

Care to defend your point, or are you just going to down-arrow anyone who dares to disagree with you?
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Town to Appeal After Losing Police Costs Court Case
at 14:51:56

Wallingford

It was argued (and proven in the LUFC/Reading Festival cases) that the police were not entitled to charge for these services, despite them being linked to the events in question, because:

a) They were not requested by the organisers of the events
b) They fell within the police's general remit of providing protection to the general public

In the LUFC case, supporting evidence for this was given in the fact that West Yorkshire Police did not charge LUFC for their increased presence at Leeds station on matchdays, despite it being needed as a direct result of there being a football match on.
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Town to Appeal After Losing Police Costs Court Case
at 14:39:42

HighgateBlue

Regarding the appeal assertion - my mistake! I clearly misread the original judgment. That said, given that the judgment has been made, and then affirmed in the Court of Appeal, one could argue that it is made stronger/weightier for it, having been tested?
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Town to Appeal After Losing Police Costs Court Case
at 14:38:22

HighgateBlue

I wonder if part of the contention arises from the definition of 'control'. If 'carsey' is correct in their assertions about the Club being responsible for closing the roads around the stadium to vehicles, then that would definitely suggest a degree of control being exerted.

On the other hand, there is nothing to suggest that the club control, or have any ability to control, who/how many enter the area on foot. I would argue, given that the club have no means/ability to stop 'risk elements' from accessing the area around the stadium, that policing on Portman Road/SAR Way should be seen in the same light as policing at the rail station, or in the town centre on match days?
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Town to Appeal After Losing Police Costs Court Case
at 14:21:56

Wallingford Boy - the LUFC case (and the Reading Festival case) proved that WYP were wrong to charge for unrequested policing services on land not owned by the club. What's more, WYP did not appeal the original decision.

Where is it obvious that the police are wrong? Or are you just being a massive Joey?
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Town to Appeal After Losing Police Costs Court Case
at 13:57:23

Further to LUFC v CCWYP, there's the earlier case of West Yorkshire Police Authority v Reading Festival Ltd ([2006] EWCA Civ 524, [2006] 1 WLR 2005) which sets the precedent that Constabularies cannot charge for 'Special Policing Services' on land not owned by the organiser (Festival, Football Club etc.,) unless they are specifically requested.

For those that are interested, the full judgment from LUFC v CCWYP can be found here:
http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2013/115.html
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Town to Appeal After Losing Police Costs Court Case
at 13:54:16

Makes no sense as a ruling. The precedent is clear from Leeds United Football Club v The Chief Constable of West Yorkshire Police ([2013] EWCA Civ 115) that the police are not entitled to charge for such services.

I'd be intrigued to see what logic/reasoning the Judge used in distinguishing the former case.
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McCarthy: Benyu's Future With Town Depends on His Attitude and Approach
at 09:37:15

I wonder if the experience of going away with Spurs has made young Kundai think he's Billy Big B*llocks?
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Ticket Promotion for Preston, Pompey All-Ticket
at 21:52:21

Sibelius

I completely agree that there could have been more communication on this. I'm sure neither club would want to 'drop the other in it', but I wouldn't be surprised if Portsmouth are the main catalyst here, as the reduced proceeds would affect them more.

It would have been nice, however, to maybe see Town take a more charitable stance and offer to absorb the increased policing costs (I can't imagine that they'd eclipse the proceeds from the match) in order to increase attendance and create a better atmosphere.

From a business/pragmatic point of view, though, I imagine bending over backwards to provide more away tickets would only benefit Portsmouth in terms of increased/improved away support, so there's no real incentive (barring pure altruism) for Town to help Portsmouth out in this way.
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Ticket Promotion for Preston, Pompey All-Ticket
at 21:23:48

Re your CGO comment, though, Sibelius...

I'm sure there's no history in opera of Wagner afficionados invading the stage at a Strauss performance, or having to segregate rival Mozart and Beethoven fans for fear of violence!
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Ticket Promotion for Preston, Pompey All-Ticket
at 21:15:36

Sibelius

A thread on the forum suggests contacting jade.cole@itfc.co.uk (PR) or lee.hyde@itfc.co.uk (head of ticketing/sales) who may well be able to help out.

Hope this helps.
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Ticket Promotion for Preston, Pompey All-Ticket
at 20:43:11

I can see the logic behind this:

Portsmouth, for whatever reason, decided not to take the full allocation open to them and have already sold out their tickets.

Given that Portsmouth fans have a reputation for having a slightly 'lively' element amongst them, the club have decided not to risk on-the-day sales as they believe the risk of away supporters in home areas to be too high.

Yes it's a bit galling for those who, for good reason, decided not to buy in advance, and perhaps there's an argument for the club having some sort of claim against Portsmouth for causing this situation?
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Skuse Signs New Deal
at 14:22:54

Skuse is one of those players who will never be noticed for his flair, or his goal scoring prowess. But is one of those players who is instantly missed the minute he leaves the field for his solidarity, and the way he holds the midfield of the team together.

A very important re-signing.
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The Last Thing We Want Is Another Milton Keynes - Notes for Manchester United
at 12:31:04

Good thinking, Arnie, but the League Cup is an 'on the night' competition, so the tie will play to a conclusion tomorrow night.
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Town Seeded in Cup Draw
at 18:20:51

We'll have to get through Round 2 first, rfretwell - we're both seeded at the moment.
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Town Seeded in Cup Draw
at 17:41:51

Barnet at home would be nice!
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