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The home v away thing
at 13:49 24 Apr 2024

Yes! Not sure any of them were Tuesday night, but it was certainly cold ...
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The home v away thing
at 12:48 24 Apr 2024

The teams, manager and coaches are the same as normal. The energy of our away fans is at least equal to the sum of most home crowds. The pitch is roughly the same shape and size as any other. Travel is comfortable, with hotel stays where necessary.

Why is being away from home considered such a disadvantage?

Admittedly, it'd be different if we were taking only a few hundred to other grounds, but we're pretty much always selling out.

Is the difference purely psychological?
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Would you rather watch a russell martin team
at 11:03 24 Apr 2024

I would be happy to watch either - so long as they are the opposition manager.
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We're all going to have to make some selfless sacrifices to get this country
at 10:53 24 Apr 2024

Indeed, it's the very antithesis of human civilisation, which first came into being through mass co-operation, people compromising to achieve a higher standard of living and security.

Modern individualism is based on bad 19th century interpretations of biology, outright myths about the US frontier and blind rejection of the purported ideals of authoritarian Soviet Communism. All cobbled together into an ideology happy to sacrifice society for short-term (often minimal) personal gain. Promoted by people who want to keep the massive wealth they've sometimes accumulated, but more often inherited. (and use to control the media and politics).
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If you were offered the play off final right now, would you take it?
at 10:35 24 Apr 2024

But in a one-off game, things can go wrong. A dodgy red card, someone key gets injured, freak goals. Could end up with something as random as penalties. No opportunity to even it out.
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If you were offered the play off final right now, would you take it?
at 10:29 24 Apr 2024

No, we're one point behind 2nd with a game in hand. There's still plenty to play for as we are.

Should we fail, there's still the safety-net of the play-offs, in which we will be the strongest team.

I'll take two extended chances over a one-off game.
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Southampton gifting it back to Leicester...
at 21:32 23 Apr 2024

I'm certain we'll have the same desire as Leeds and Leicester. It's a matter of execution. Will we have our best players available? Can we get the ball into the net (we'll have chances)?
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Ahadme looks like he's just kept Cambridge up
at 21:25 23 Apr 2024

Cheltenham (my local team) could save themselves if they win on Saturday and Burton don't. Quite remarkable given their terrible start to the season.
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Little Boats
at 21:18 23 Apr 2024

Then there's the little matter of cutting or diverting overseas aid budgets. That used to be something which could be used to keep places more stable, to alleviate famine and disasters. To stop people having to move in the first place.

People saying "charity begins at home" are missing the second half of the original quote - "but should not end there".
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Little Boats
at 14:51 23 Apr 2024

There is an underlying point here. If the UK Government, rather than populist stuff about Rwanda and "illegals", concentrated on getting the asylum system working right (including funding and staffing levels), there would be proper routes into the country for refugees and we could actually process their applications rather than keeping them uselessly locked up for years in old military camps or on boats.
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Careful what you wish for 2.0
at 13:14 23 Apr 2024

But then you get teams who use that as a base for building further. It may take quite a few years and not necessarily end up at the very top like Leicester. But it wasn't so long ago we were playing West Ham and Villa in the Championship, clubs who are now hunting European football.

There are tales of success as well as woe. But perhaps it takes time and incremental improvement, rather than too much change provoked by overambition or desperation.
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So this St George fella
at 10:47 23 Apr 2024

It's something which developed in (European) High/Late Medieval Christianity, continuing on in the Catholic tradition after the Reformation. Other faiths, while they may venerate holy individuals, don't have that same concept of praying through them.

The closest analogues are probably Hinduism and Roman paganism, with their multiplicity of minor and household deities (some of whom had been human or partially so in the mythos) who could be prayed to for specific concerns and protections.

Places like Australia have adopted patron saints, but that's less an organic process than authorities (particularly Catholic church ones) making a conscious (theological) decision it ought to be done.
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So this St George fella
at 10:34 23 Apr 2024

I once spent the night sleeping on the (possible) battlefield of Edington, during a cycling trip. The genealogical link is't confirmed, just a possible (and family tradition) at this stage.
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Cry “God for Harry, England and St George!”….
at 10:26 23 Apr 2024

Once more unto the breeches and fill them with our English legs!
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So this St George fella
at 10:23 23 Apr 2024

That's one of the reasons I like that piece of art. It was created only a year or two before things fell apart. An expression of "people are abandoning me, but at least I still have my saints". Self-comforting propaganda which didn't work.

I'm possibly very distantly related to Richard II, too (through one of his grandmothers).

Less paperwork to keep the original name!
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A blessing in disguise?
at 10:14 23 Apr 2024

Not so sure it's as drastic as that. Not all Prem teams are ManC, Liverpool and Arsenal. With this squad, we drew with Fulham in pre-season and beat Wolves in the Cup.

Yes, we would need to strengthen. But not change the whole team (I think Forest and Burnley made a mistake in that respect).

Additionally, we have to take the opportunities when they are there. If we go up and come stright back down (by no means certain in my book), then we gat parachute money and can have another go. Yo-yoing gave teams like West Brom the platform for extended stays in the Prem.
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Anyone else feeling a little bit deflated this morning?
at 09:58 23 Apr 2024

We need to go on a three-game winning run. Something we've done (or bettered*) six times already this season. As against only twice we've had a run of fewer than that.




* 2 threes, 3 fours and a six.
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Positive tunage thread
at 09:44 23 Apr 2024

'Cheep up' - are you suggesting this will drive us to becoming Norwich supporters??
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So this St George fella
at 09:40 23 Apr 2024

Notably bad tempered.
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So this St George fella
at 09:39 23 Apr 2024

The concept of all countries having a single "patron saint" is more modern than that, too. People and countries often had several, covering different "areas of expertise" - i.e. the things which prayers invoking those saints were supposed to be particularly effective in dealing with.

Witness the Wilton Diptych, featuring Richard II and his three favourite saints, Edmund, Edward the Confessor and John the Baptist:

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