| Grauniad piece on Britain's lack of a culture war 10:49 - Feb 5 with 875 views | Steve_M |
It's interesting and actually fairly optimistic about the worst efforts of those - on either side of the political spectrum - to create one here.
"Political figures then use this conflation to claim the legitimacy of the “silent majority” for their own agendas. Britain’s political and media scene has a whole cast of frauds playing fancy dress as the allies of ex-miners from Barnsley; professional blowhards trying to get their shoutfests to go viral online; religious conservatives fantasising that Brexit might bring back the Bible; newspaper columnists chasing the validation of speaking for the masses; the entire existence of Blue Labour. Meanwhile, people in Barnsley have better things to do."
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/05/no-british-culture-war-bre
I'm not quite so optimistic but we are a long way from the total dysfunction of the US. Not having the Labour party leadership dominated by ideologues would help next. |  |
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| Grauniad piece on Britain's lack of a culture war on 10:54 - Feb 5 with 844 views | chicoazul |
I'll read it shortly but a lot of people on here and elsewhere seem to think we are culturally very similar to the US when in fact, we are very far apart, and so due to this misunderstanding they think whatever the US has or suffers is surely destined for here too when it usually isnt t. This mistake is made across the political spectrum. |  |
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| Grauniad piece on Britain's lack of a culture war on 10:56 - Feb 5 with 829 views | Darth_Koont |
Your last line is a bit cheap.
Having a proper Labour party over the past couple of decades would have helped massively. Replacing values with branding has created an ever-more normalised, fairly right-wing view where nothing in this country can or should be done about structural problems. We've become totally apathetic as a result and a vacuum that dodgy populism can march gaily into. |  |
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| Grauniad piece on Britain's lack of a culture war on 10:57 - Feb 5 with 819 views | BackToRussia |
Can you name some politicians who are free from ideology? |  |
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| Grauniad piece on Britain's lack of a culture war on 11:15 - Feb 5 with 783 views | giant_stow |
| Grauniad piece on Britain's lack of a culture war on 10:56 - Feb 5 by Darth_Koont |
Your last line is a bit cheap.
Having a proper Labour party over the past couple of decades would have helped massively. Replacing values with branding has created an ever-more normalised, fairly right-wing view where nothing in this country can or should be done about structural problems. We've become totally apathetic as a result and a vacuum that dodgy populism can march gaily into. |
The last line is only cheap if you disagree about the desirability of a culture war innit?
I think you've made it clear for a while now that you want masisve change in society, so a culture war probably suits as a means to an end? |  |
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| Grauniad piece on Britain's lack of a culture war on 11:19 - Feb 5 with 770 views | footers |
| Grauniad piece on Britain's lack of a culture war on 11:15 - Feb 5 by giant_stow |
The last line is only cheap if you disagree about the desirability of a culture war innit?
I think you've made it clear for a while now that you want masisve change in society, so a culture war probably suits as a means to an end? |
You don't need a culture war to have two parties with differing ideologies. Truth is, centrism now essentially means neoliberalism, which is why so many of the recent Labour party policies have been deemed 'far left' when they're nothing of the sort.Especially given Johnson has indulged in several of them already! |  |
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| Grauniad piece on Britain's lack of a culture war on 11:21 - Feb 5 with 764 views | Herbivore |
| Grauniad piece on Britain's lack of a culture war on 10:57 - Feb 5 by BackToRussia |
Can you name some politicians who are free from ideology? |
Boris Johnson. |  |
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| Grauniad piece on Britain's lack of a culture war on 11:24 - Feb 5 with 758 views | Darth_Koont |
| Grauniad piece on Britain's lack of a culture war on 11:15 - Feb 5 by giant_stow |
The last line is only cheap if you disagree about the desirability of a culture war innit?
I think you've made it clear for a while now that you want masisve change in society, so a culture war probably suits as a means to an end? |
The idea of a cultural war is stupid in this day and age. Let's have a reality war.
On one side we can have people pushing for what is needed to serve the needs of the country and all its citizens - and what works based on actual facts and real understanding.
On the other side there can be the people who want to deny everything and push what they believe or want to believe is true about society and the world. From the economy, healthcare, foreign policy, education, the environment etc. Often for their own self-interest and from their own narrow and shallow perspective.
The Battle of Brexit was just the start. A battle we lost but perhaps we can still win the war.
Edit: Oh and "massive change"!!?? No, it's just taking care of the stuff we all say we want to take care of. Maybe a change in mindset but there's no massive differences between the UK and more progressive societies apart from a brighter reality for those who need support and a brighter future in general. Those of us lucky enough to not need much support would see very little change and certainly wouldn't have to give up much at all. We'd all probably be happier though. [Post edited 5 Feb 2020 11:28]
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| Grauniad piece on Britain's lack of a culture war on 11:46 - Feb 5 with 715 views | chicoazul |
| Grauniad piece on Britain's lack of a culture war on 11:19 - Feb 5 by footers |
You don't need a culture war to have two parties with differing ideologies. Truth is, centrism now essentially means neoliberalism, which is why so many of the recent Labour party policies have been deemed 'far left' when they're nothing of the sort.Especially given Johnson has indulged in several of them already! |
It's almost as if.....as if.... | |
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| Grauniad piece on Britain's lack of a culture war on 11:48 - Feb 5 with 706 views | footers |
| Grauniad piece on Britain's lack of a culture war on 11:46 - Feb 5 by chicoazul |
It's almost as if.....as if.... |
Johnson's a Marxist! Albeit more Groucho than Karl. | |
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| Grauniad piece on Britain's lack of a culture war on 12:00 - Feb 5 with 678 views | BackToRussia |
| Grauniad piece on Britain's lack of a culture war on 11:48 - Feb 5 by footers |
Johnson's a Marxist! Albeit more Groucho than Karl. |
Chico thinks everyone's a Marxist and no one has ever been a fascist. Chico world is a weird world. | |
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