| Who should I vote for? 13:57 - May 7 with 24384 views | SpruceMoose |
Got a notification through in the post yesterday that I'll be receiving a European election postal vote in the next week or so. I genuinely have no idea who I will vote for at this point.
Members of TWTD here's your chance to gain an extra vote for your party of choice. Convince me. Who are you voting for and why!? |  |
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| Who should I vote for? on 14:08 - May 7 with 4561 views | Herbivore |
Green. They are pro-Europe, pro-environment, left of centre economically. It's an easy choice. |  |
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| Who should I vote for? on 14:10 - May 7 with 4551 views | SpruceMoose |
| Who should I vote for? on 14:08 - May 7 by Herbivore |
Green. They are pro-Europe, pro-environment, left of centre economically. It's an easy choice. |
I am inclined to do so quite naturally. I have to say, I am entirely turned off by Labour. But if anyone has a counter view to that I'd be happy to listen.
I'm also keen to hear from those planning on voting for the right of centre parties. What's your reasoning there? | |
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| Who should I vote for? on 14:12 - May 7 with 4535 views | Herbivore |
| Who should I vote for? on 14:10 - May 7 by SpruceMoose |
I am inclined to do so quite naturally. I have to say, I am entirely turned off by Labour. But if anyone has a counter view to that I'd be happy to listen.
I'm also keen to hear from those planning on voting for the right of centre parties. What's your reasoning there? |
I'll stand aside and let others make their pitch. | |
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| Who should I vote for? on 14:14 - May 7 with 4527 views | J2BLUE |
Brexit Party
Only joking, suck it Pickles. No idea. Probably greens or lib dems. |  |
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| Who should I vote for? on 14:18 - May 7 with 4514 views | J2BLUE |
| Who should I vote for? on 14:10 - May 7 by SpruceMoose |
I am inclined to do so quite naturally. I have to say, I am entirely turned off by Labour. But if anyone has a counter view to that I'd be happy to listen.
I'm also keen to hear from those planning on voting for the right of centre parties. What's your reasoning there? |
Would you be against someone voting Conservative? Obvious Brexit Party and UKIP are a bit different. | |
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| Who should I vote for? on 14:23 - May 7 with 4506 views | SpruceMoose |
| Who should I vote for? on 14:18 - May 7 by J2BLUE |
Would you be against someone voting Conservative? Obvious Brexit Party and UKIP are a bit different. |
I have never voted Conservative. My worldview is really not a Conservative one, and as I have said further I am up the thread I am naturally more inclined to align with a Leftist view of the world. However, maybe I am overlooking why, in this particular election, I should consider voting in other ways.
Voting Brexit and UKIP are out, if I'm being honest, as I'm not a massive racist and I would like the UK to Remain within the EU. I'd listen to input from any other sensible, thoughtful posters though. Anyone voting for UKIP/Brexit would probably just call me a yank and tell me I have no business voting anyway.
Maybe GB can offer some insight into what the Conservatives may offer (unless he's voting in a different manner, I don't know). [Post edited 7 May 2019 14:26]
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| Who should I vote for? on 14:27 - May 7 with 4473 views | J2BLUE |
| Who should I vote for? on 14:23 - May 7 by SpruceMoose |
I have never voted Conservative. My worldview is really not a Conservative one, and as I have said further I am up the thread I am naturally more inclined to align with a Leftist view of the world. However, maybe I am overlooking why, in this particular election, I should consider voting in other ways.
Voting Brexit and UKIP are out, if I'm being honest, as I'm not a massive racist and I would like the UK to Remain within the EU. I'd listen to input from any other sensible, thoughtful posters though. Anyone voting for UKIP/Brexit would probably just call me a yank and tell me I have no business voting anyway.
Maybe GB can offer some insight into what the Conservatives may offer (unless he's voting in a different manner, I don't know). [Post edited 7 May 2019 14:26]
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My worldview is a conservative one. To an extent anyway. My vote in these elections is trying to undo my Brexit vote. In a GE I couldn't vote for the current Conservative party because they have gone way too far with the austerity cuts and left people in some horrific situations. | |
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| Who should I vote for? on 14:30 - May 7 with 4464 views | SpruceMoose |
| Who should I vote for? on 14:27 - May 7 by J2BLUE |
My worldview is a conservative one. To an extent anyway. My vote in these elections is trying to undo my Brexit vote. In a GE I couldn't vote for the current Conservative party because they have gone way too far with the austerity cuts and left people in some horrific situations. |
I do think that , in this day and age, a moderate conservative viewpoint is often drowned out by the more extreme right wing views, and the left's response to those.
Would you consider voting for Chuka Utd? | |
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| Who should I vote for? on 14:33 - May 7 with 4445 views | J2BLUE |
| Who should I vote for? on 14:30 - May 7 by SpruceMoose |
I do think that , in this day and age, a moderate conservative viewpoint is often drowned out by the more extreme right wing views, and the left's response to those.
Would you consider voting for Chuka Utd? |
Not at the moment. No idea what their policies are and Chuka does not come across well IMO. | |
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| Who should I vote for? on 14:35 - May 7 with 4437 views | Ftnfwest |
Don't bother its not going to change anything evidently |  | | |
| Who should I vote for? on 14:37 - May 7 with 4433 views | homer_123 |
I would struggle to suggest voting for the Conservatives. In fact, how anyone can vote for them given:
1. The fact Cameron tried to solve an internal party issues with a referendum
2. Then walked and washed his hands of it after assuming no one would vote for leaving the EU
3. How the current PM has handled the situation
4. How the party has failed, utterly, to get anything remotely sensible in the way of an internal or cross party agreement in place re. leaving.
5. Or having the balls to step back say....whoops, we may have erred here and need to re-think
Couple that with the general way in which they have been running things over the last few years, the increase between the haves and have note, drop in social mobility etc.
They should be in power and no one should be voting for them in the short to medium term.
Saying that, I'd struggle to also suggest voting Labour, who are also an utter mess for a range of other reasons.
The logical choice is indeed the Green party - is that a wasted vote at MEP level though? I've not really looked. |  |
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| Who should I vote for? on 14:39 - May 7 with 4421 views | BlueBadger |
| Who should I vote for? on 14:37 - May 7 by homer_123 |
I would struggle to suggest voting for the Conservatives. In fact, how anyone can vote for them given:
1. The fact Cameron tried to solve an internal party issues with a referendum
2. Then walked and washed his hands of it after assuming no one would vote for leaving the EU
3. How the current PM has handled the situation
4. How the party has failed, utterly, to get anything remotely sensible in the way of an internal or cross party agreement in place re. leaving.
5. Or having the balls to step back say....whoops, we may have erred here and need to re-think
Couple that with the general way in which they have been running things over the last few years, the increase between the haves and have note, drop in social mobility etc.
They should be in power and no one should be voting for them in the short to medium term.
Saying that, I'd struggle to also suggest voting Labour, who are also an utter mess for a range of other reasons.
The logical choice is indeed the Green party - is that a wasted vote at MEP level though? I've not really looked. |
Greens in general have a good rep for strong representation for their communities at all levels, if that helps. |  |
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| Who should I vote for? on 14:45 - May 7 with 4396 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Who should I vote for? on 14:37 - May 7 by homer_123 |
I would struggle to suggest voting for the Conservatives. In fact, how anyone can vote for them given:
1. The fact Cameron tried to solve an internal party issues with a referendum
2. Then walked and washed his hands of it after assuming no one would vote for leaving the EU
3. How the current PM has handled the situation
4. How the party has failed, utterly, to get anything remotely sensible in the way of an internal or cross party agreement in place re. leaving.
5. Or having the balls to step back say....whoops, we may have erred here and need to re-think
Couple that with the general way in which they have been running things over the last few years, the increase between the haves and have note, drop in social mobility etc.
They should be in power and no one should be voting for them in the short to medium term.
Saying that, I'd struggle to also suggest voting Labour, who are also an utter mess for a range of other reasons.
The logical choice is indeed the Green party - is that a wasted vote at MEP level though? I've not really looked. |
With proportional representation on a regional basis, very few votes are wasted. |  |
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| Who should I vote for? on 14:47 - May 7 with 4378 views | 26_Paz |
I will be voting for the Brexit party. In a GE I would vote Tory but need to send a message to get Brexit sorted. A huge vote for the Brexit party should do just that ... |  |
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| Who should I vote for? on 14:47 - May 7 with 4389 views | giant_stow |
Tories and labour are out, so I'll pick between the greens, liberals and change uk, personally. I think i read something about a bit of collusion between these groups at local level to help point voters to most likely winner of the 3, so might let swing it. |  |
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| Who should I vote for? on 14:48 - May 7 with 4382 views | WD19 |
Its the first election in my adult life in which I won't be voting.
Have managed to inadvertently put myself out of the country for the day on business. Haven't registered for a postal vote......and to be honest it is such a relatively meaningless vote I am not going to put myself out to see if there is still a way for me to do so in time.
I know that makes me bad. |  | | |
| Who should I vote for? on 14:54 - May 7 with 4356 views | giant_stow |
| Who should I vote for? on 14:48 - May 7 by WD19 |
Its the first election in my adult life in which I won't be voting.
Have managed to inadvertently put myself out of the country for the day on business. Haven't registered for a postal vote......and to be honest it is such a relatively meaningless vote I am not going to put myself out to see if there is still a way for me to do so in time.
I know that makes me bad. |
You sure it meaningless? Seems like a proxy vote on both brexit and the two large parties capability to me - if they were both truly smashed, might that not help change the system? I'm dreaming I spose.. | |
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| Who should I vote for? on 14:54 - May 7 with 4356 views | Swansea_Blue |
Depends on one's priorities. Do you go all tictacs over the Brexit issue or go purely off the people/policies that one want to see us stand on in the European Parliament? I normally do the latter, but given that the elected MEPs may well not be in the parliament for long or at all, I'm wondering what the point is. I may go tactical for the pro-Remain party most likely to win a seat (*see tweet below for some interesting info on this), but then that's unlikely to affect May's approach so is pointless in itself.
When you come to think about it, there's probably never been a more pointless election. The only issue os the Brexit party and how the inevitable gains there will be responded to by May (and I guess she'll just pander to their voters and double down on the hard-line Brexidiocy).
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| Who should I vote for? on 14:57 - May 7 with 4333 views | Herbivore |
| Who should I vote for? on 14:54 - May 7 by Swansea_Blue |
Depends on one's priorities. Do you go all tictacs over the Brexit issue or go purely off the people/policies that one want to see us stand on in the European Parliament? I normally do the latter, but given that the elected MEPs may well not be in the parliament for long or at all, I'm wondering what the point is. I may go tactical for the pro-Remain party most likely to win a seat (*see tweet below for some interesting info on this), but then that's unlikely to affect May's approach so is pointless in itself.
When you come to think about it, there's probably never been a more pointless election. The only issue os the Brexit party and how the inevitable gains there will be responded to by May (and I guess she'll just pander to their voters and double down on the hard-line Brexidiocy).
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She managed to spin the pro-Remain Lib Dems and Greens decimating the Tories and UKIP as meaning people just want her to get on with Brexit. On that basis I dread to think how she'll interpret a surge of votes for the Brexit party; she might just revoke Article 50. | |
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| Who should I vote for? on 14:58 - May 7 with 4334 views | SpruceMoose |
| Who should I vote for? on 14:54 - May 7 by Swansea_Blue |
Depends on one's priorities. Do you go all tictacs over the Brexit issue or go purely off the people/policies that one want to see us stand on in the European Parliament? I normally do the latter, but given that the elected MEPs may well not be in the parliament for long or at all, I'm wondering what the point is. I may go tactical for the pro-Remain party most likely to win a seat (*see tweet below for some interesting info on this), but then that's unlikely to affect May's approach so is pointless in itself.
When you come to think about it, there's probably never been a more pointless election. The only issue os the Brexit party and how the inevitable gains there will be responded to by May (and I guess she'll just pander to their voters and double down on the hard-line Brexidiocy).
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I suppose one way of reading the graph in your linked Tweet is that Labour could possibly be streets ahead in the polls... if they backed a second ref. | |
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| Who should I vote for? on 14:58 - May 7 with 4333 views | WD19 |
| Who should I vote for? on 14:54 - May 7 by giant_stow |
You sure it meaningless? Seems like a proxy vote on both brexit and the two large parties capability to me - if they were both truly smashed, might that not help change the system? I'm dreaming I spose.. |
However it goes it will be liable to convenient interpretation.....
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'both parties got smashed, its because the public are frustrated we haven't got on with brexit'
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'both parties got smashed, its because the public don't want the brexit both big parties support' | | | |
| Who should I vote for? on 14:59 - May 7 with 4328 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Who should I vote for? on 14:37 - May 7 by homer_123 |
I would struggle to suggest voting for the Conservatives. In fact, how anyone can vote for them given:
1. The fact Cameron tried to solve an internal party issues with a referendum
2. Then walked and washed his hands of it after assuming no one would vote for leaving the EU
3. How the current PM has handled the situation
4. How the party has failed, utterly, to get anything remotely sensible in the way of an internal or cross party agreement in place re. leaving.
5. Or having the balls to step back say....whoops, we may have erred here and need to re-think
Couple that with the general way in which they have been running things over the last few years, the increase between the haves and have note, drop in social mobility etc.
They should be in power and no one should be voting for them in the short to medium term.
Saying that, I'd struggle to also suggest voting Labour, who are also an utter mess for a range of other reasons.
The logical choice is indeed the Green party - is that a wasted vote at MEP level though? I've not really looked. |
A greens vote isn't wasted. It depends where you are, but they have a chance of securing an MEP in a few areas (East of England being one). See the tweet I linked above for early indications of the parties that stand a realistic chance in each area, albeit early days for predictions.
Also, the more people that actually put their vote where their mouth is the better. Some day, someone in power has too take environmental protection seriously. That'll only happen through our votes. | |
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| Who should I vote for? on 15:00 - May 7 with 4314 views | giant_stow |
| Who should I vote for? on 14:58 - May 7 by WD19 |
However it goes it will be liable to convenient interpretation.....
See
'both parties got smashed, its because the public are frustrated we haven't got on with brexit'
AND
'both parties got smashed, its because the public don't want the brexit both big parties support' |
fair point. | |
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| Who should I vote for? on 15:04 - May 7 with 4304 views | SpruceMoose |
Grimboy, your constant downvoting of reasonable posts comes across like a toddler's tantrum.
If you have any interesting thoughts on the upcoming elections then we'd be more than happy to hear them. If you feel this subject leaves you a little out of your depth then that's fair enough, but leave the rest of us alone to discuss it in peace please. [Post edited 7 May 2019 15:08]
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Who should I vote for? on 15:11 - May 7 with 4267 views | BlueBadger |
| Who should I vote for? on 15:04 - May 7 by SpruceMoose |
Grimboy, your constant downvoting of reasonable posts comes across like a toddler's tantrum.
If you have any interesting thoughts on the upcoming elections then we'd be more than happy to hear them. If you feel this subject leaves you a little out of your depth then that's fair enough, but leave the rest of us alone to discuss it in peace please. [Post edited 7 May 2019 15:08]
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I really don't know why he still hangs around here, it clearly doesn't make him happy. | |
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