| So, the Maximum Leader last night 09:53 - Nov 27 with 8474 views | chicoazul |
he didn't know about the marriage allowance tax thing, did he? Or he hadn't thought it through.
Incidentally scrapping a tax break for married couples tells you all you need to know about what Marxists think of marriage. |  |
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| So, the Maximum Leader last night on 10:03 - Nov 27 with 2765 views | BloomBlue |
But that is only for those who earn under a certain amount so scrapping it only hits the low paid. Which means under Labours plans the high and low paid will be hit by tax increases those in the middle won't. |  | | |
| So, the Maximum Leader last night on 10:12 - Nov 27 with 2749 views | IpswichKnight |
| So, the Maximum Leader last night on 10:03 - Nov 27 by BloomBlue |
But that is only for those who earn under a certain amount so scrapping it only hits the low paid. Which means under Labours plans the high and low paid will be hit by tax increases those in the middle won't. |
Surely it was a smear job by that right wing Murdoch running dog Andrew Neil. Come the glorious revolution he and his master will be exiled and only state run news papers and TV will be allowed to question the glorious leader through pre-approved questions. |  | | |
| So, the Maximum Leader last night on 10:15 - Nov 27 with 2743 views | chicoazul |
| So, the Maximum Leader last night on 10:03 - Nov 27 by BloomBlue |
But that is only for those who earn under a certain amount so scrapping it only hits the low paid. Which means under Labours plans the high and low paid will be hit by tax increases those in the middle won't. |
It's almost as if....as if.... | |
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| So, the Maximum Leader last night on 10:16 - Nov 27 with 2718 views | Herbivore |
A tax break for married couples is absurd. |  |
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| So, the Maximum Leader last night on 10:22 - Nov 27 with 2724 views | StokieBlue |
Why should people who are married get a tax break?
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| So, the Maximum Leader last night on 10:23 - Nov 27 with 2720 views | chicoazul |
| So, the Maximum Leader last night on 10:22 - Nov 27 by StokieBlue |
Why should people who are married get a tax break?
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Because marriage is an excellent thing that should be encouraged by the state, and one of the ways it should be encouraged is via a modest tax break. | |
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| So, the Maximum Leader last night on 10:24 - Nov 27 with 2712 views | StokieBlue |
| So, the Maximum Leader last night on 10:23 - Nov 27 by chicoazul |
Because marriage is an excellent thing that should be encouraged by the state, and one of the ways it should be encouraged is via a modest tax break. |
Isn't that totally against the definition of a secular state?
Why can't people be committed to each other in every way a married couple are but just not married?
It's 1950's thinking.
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| So, the Maximum Leader last night on 10:24 - Nov 27 with 2691 views | Herbivore |
| So, the Maximum Leader last night on 10:23 - Nov 27 by chicoazul |
Because marriage is an excellent thing that should be encouraged by the state, and one of the ways it should be encouraged is via a modest tax break. |
What? | |
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| So, the Maximum Leader last night on 10:26 - Nov 27 with 2696 views | Darth_Koont |
| So, the Maximum Leader last night on 10:22 - Nov 27 by StokieBlue |
Why should people who are married get a tax break?
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Jesus? |  |
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| So, the Maximum Leader last night on 10:26 - Nov 27 with 2695 views | jeera |
| So, the Maximum Leader last night on 10:23 - Nov 27 by chicoazul |
Because marriage is an excellent thing that should be encouraged by the state, and one of the ways it should be encouraged is via a modest tax break. |
Marriage can be an excellent thing for those who want it and choose to do it.
That's no reason to discriminate against those who don't however, surely. |  |
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| So, the Maximum Leader last night on 10:27 - Nov 27 with 2695 views | ZedRodgers |
| So, the Maximum Leader last night on 10:23 - Nov 27 by chicoazul |
Because marriage is an excellent thing that should be encouraged by the state, and one of the ways it should be encouraged is via a modest tax break. |
Haha |  |
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| So, the Maximum Leader last night on 10:28 - Nov 27 with 2686 views | Steve_M |
Morning Bluefish. |  |
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| So, the Maximum Leader last night on 10:29 - Nov 27 with 2684 views | chicoazul |
| So, the Maximum Leader last night on 10:24 - Nov 27 by StokieBlue |
Isn't that totally against the definition of a secular state?
Why can't people be committed to each other in every way a married couple are but just not married?
It's 1950's thinking.
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Our state is still, just about, a Christian one. People can be as committed as they choose to be of course, and plenty are/do. But the married family is the tried tested and proven-best way of raising a family and by extension, providing a happy safe atmosphere for nearly all peoples to live in. One of the ways the state has historically encouraged this includes this very modest tax break. Removing it is a symptom of how the Labour Party views family & marriage. | |
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| So, the Maximum Leader last night on 10:33 - Nov 27 with 2660 views | footers |
Marxism and marriage, a simple breakdown:
"Seize the means of reproduction" - something far less likely to happen after marriage.
Forward to fun and freedom :) |  |
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| So, the Maximum Leader last night on 10:34 - Nov 27 with 2657 views | DanTheMan |
| So, the Maximum Leader last night on 10:29 - Nov 27 by chicoazul |
Our state is still, just about, a Christian one. People can be as committed as they choose to be of course, and plenty are/do. But the married family is the tried tested and proven-best way of raising a family and by extension, providing a happy safe atmosphere for nearly all peoples to live in. One of the ways the state has historically encouraged this includes this very modest tax break. Removing it is a symptom of how the Labour Party views family & marriage. |
So I get taxed differently based on my religious beliefs? |  |
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| So, the Maximum Leader last night on 10:36 - Nov 27 with 2650 views | chicoazul |
| So, the Maximum Leader last night on 10:34 - Nov 27 by DanTheMan |
So I get taxed differently based on my religious beliefs? |
Are you not married for religious beliefs? If not, no. | |
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| So, the Maximum Leader last night on 10:40 - Nov 27 with 2639 views | chicoazul |
| So, the Maximum Leader last night on 10:26 - Nov 27 by jeera |
Marriage can be an excellent thing for those who want it and choose to do it.
That's no reason to discriminate against those who don't however, surely. |
Tax is not discrimination, if it is, we are all discriminated against. | |
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| So, the Maximum Leader last night on 10:40 - Nov 27 with 2634 views | jeera |
| So, the Maximum Leader last night on 10:40 - Nov 27 by chicoazul |
Tax is not discrimination, if it is, we are all discriminated against. |
But preferential treatment is of course. | |
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| So, the Maximum Leader last night on 10:41 - Nov 27 with 2632 views | chicoazul |
| So, the Maximum Leader last night on 10:33 - Nov 27 by footers |
Marxism and marriage, a simple breakdown:
"Seize the means of reproduction" - something far less likely to happen after marriage.
Forward to fun and freedom :) |
Cults are always partly popular because of all the shagging. | |
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| So, the Maximum Leader last night on 10:42 - Nov 27 with 2627 views | StokieBlue |
| So, the Maximum Leader last night on 10:29 - Nov 27 by chicoazul |
Our state is still, just about, a Christian one. People can be as committed as they choose to be of course, and plenty are/do. But the married family is the tried tested and proven-best way of raising a family and by extension, providing a happy safe atmosphere for nearly all peoples to live in. One of the ways the state has historically encouraged this includes this very modest tax break. Removing it is a symptom of how the Labour Party views family & marriage. |
You've just said the same thing but with more words and it's just as wrong this time as last time.
How does the Labour party view family and marriage? Many would argue those two things don't have to be linked.
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| So, the Maximum Leader last night on 10:44 - Nov 27 with 2621 views | chicoazul |
| So, the Maximum Leader last night on 10:40 - Nov 27 by jeera |
But preferential treatment is of course. |
This implies that behaviour which is traditional proven and for the good of society is not something for the state to encourage by offering such preferential treatment. "What the state does not forbid is compulsory". Our descent into nihilistic individualism will soon achieve its' final form. | |
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| So, the Maximum Leader last night on 10:47 - Nov 27 with 2613 views | chicoazul |
| So, the Maximum Leader last night on 10:42 - Nov 27 by StokieBlue |
You've just said the same thing but with more words and it's just as wrong this time as last time.
How does the Labour party view family and marriage? Many would argue those two things don't have to be linked.
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What's wrong about it? You disagree with the points about married life & the family?
The Labour Party hates the family, and marriage by extension too. | |
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| So, the Maximum Leader last night on 10:52 - Nov 27 with 2602 views | ClareBlue |
| So, the Maximum Leader last night on 10:29 - Nov 27 by chicoazul |
Our state is still, just about, a Christian one. People can be as committed as they choose to be of course, and plenty are/do. But the married family is the tried tested and proven-best way of raising a family and by extension, providing a happy safe atmosphere for nearly all peoples to live in. One of the ways the state has historically encouraged this includes this very modest tax break. Removing it is a symptom of how the Labour Party views family & marriage. |
Getting married is a legal committment that is not restricted to hetro sexual couples and is a legal contract between two parties and the religious side is not relevant in law. By making this committment the following statistically is more likely to happen:
a) less state intervention, and subsequent cost, in the raising of any children as a result of the union,
b) less cost on social protection for those parties involved in the union and any children raised in the union,
c) Higher educational achievements for children raised as part of the union and subsequent future finacial contribution to the state,
The modest tax break for those prepared to make this legal committment is a very small recognision by the state of the above.
Of course, it doesn't always work for people and that is why they can disolve the legal contract if it is in their interest to do so.
The extreme socialist mantra of seeing a threat to the all powerful state from the family unit is well documented. George Orwell was writting about it after the war based on experiences of the foundation of the communist block. Having travelled widely in eastern Europe and particularly in Albania you can see evidence of how people actually put their lives on the line to sustain family units and freedom of religion.
This proposal should be seen for what it is, an attack on the fabric of the state in the persuit of a class war. | | | |
| So, the Maximum Leader last night on 10:52 - Nov 27 with 2602 views | DanTheMan |
| So, the Maximum Leader last night on 10:36 - Nov 27 by chicoazul |
Are you not married for religious beliefs? If not, no. |
Then what does it have to do with Christianity? | |
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| So, the Maximum Leader last night on 10:52 - Nov 27 with 2600 views | footers |
| So, the Maximum Leader last night on 10:41 - Nov 27 by chicoazul |
Cults are always partly popular because of all the shagging. |
True. That month I spent with the Moonies was an eye-opener. | |
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