| Hosuing developer taking the piss yet again on 11:43 - Apr 16 with 1944 views | StokieBlue |
Read this earlier, it's a horrible situation.
Unfortunately (and I know this isn't the point) nobody is sure who is liable at the moment. At the time of building did the developer use the government approved cladding in which case is it really their fault? Should the government pay in this case?
It's a horrible situation, I really felt for the woman when I read it this morning and have a friend in the same position. It's the tip of the iceberg though and developers, insurers as the government will fight to assign liability as the bill is going to be massive to change everything nationwide.
I don't have much sympathy will developers given the profit's they have made over recent years but it's quite complicated. Doesn't help the poor woman and others unfortunately.
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| Hosuing developer taking the piss yet again on 11:45 - Apr 16 with 1935 views | unbelievablue |
* WAITS FOR SOMEONE TO SUGGEST THE BUYERS DIDN'T DO DUE DILIGENCE AND SHOULD BE LIABLE *
It's a nasty situation. |  |
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| Hosuing developer taking the piss yet again on 11:51 - Apr 16 with 1910 views | giant_stow |
| Hosuing developer taking the piss yet again on 11:43 - Apr 16 by StokieBlue |
Read this earlier, it's a horrible situation.
Unfortunately (and I know this isn't the point) nobody is sure who is liable at the moment. At the time of building did the developer use the government approved cladding in which case is it really their fault? Should the government pay in this case?
It's a horrible situation, I really felt for the woman when I read it this morning and have a friend in the same position. It's the tip of the iceberg though and developers, insurers as the government will fight to assign liability as the bill is going to be massive to change everything nationwide.
I don't have much sympathy will developers given the profit's they have made over recent years but it's quite complicated. Doesn't help the poor woman and others unfortunately.
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You've got a mate in the same boat - ouch.
This probably isn't realistic at all / simple-simon stuff, but the govt should cough up now and quickly, just to avoid another disaster or terrorism and then chase the developers for contributions in the courts.
Crazy that people just have to wait for a long legal battle to go through.
Nice avatar btw. |  |
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| Hosuing developer taking the piss yet again on 11:52 - Apr 16 with 1907 views | giant_stow |
| Hosuing developer taking the piss yet again on 11:45 - Apr 16 by unbelievablue |
* WAITS FOR SOMEONE TO SUGGEST THE BUYERS DIDN'T DO DUE DILIGENCE AND SHOULD BE LIABLE *
It's a nasty situation. |
I bludy hope not.
I think its testement to this particular woman that she wouldn;t rent it out for fear of what could happen to her future tennents. [Post edited 16 Apr 2018 11:54]
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| Story taken out of context to suit posters political agenda yet again... on 11:58 - Apr 16 with 1879 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
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| Hosuing developer taking the piss yet again on 11:59 - Apr 16 with 1866 views | Lord_Lucan |
I'll take it. |  |
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| Story taken out of context to suit posters political agenda yet again... on 12:01 - Apr 16 with 1861 views | giant_stow |
| Story taken out of context to suit posters political agenda yet again... on 11:58 - Apr 16 by Marshalls_Mullet |
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Pardon?! | |
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| Hosuing developer taking the piss yet again on 12:01 - Apr 16 with 1855 views | giant_stow |
| Hosuing developer taking the piss yet again on 11:59 - Apr 16 by Lord_Lucan |
I'll take it. |
Yours for £500 grand. | |
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| Story taken out of context to suit posters political agenda yet again... on 12:05 - Apr 16 with 1839 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Story taken out of context to suit posters political agenda yet again... on 12:01 - Apr 16 by giant_stow |
Pardon?! |
How is the developer 'taking the piss'? | |
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| Hosuing developer taking the piss yet again on 12:06 - Apr 16 with 1841 views | StokieBlue |
| Hosuing developer taking the piss yet again on 11:51 - Apr 16 by giant_stow |
You've got a mate in the same boat - ouch.
This probably isn't realistic at all / simple-simon stuff, but the govt should cough up now and quickly, just to avoid another disaster or terrorism and then chase the developers for contributions in the courts.
Crazy that people just have to wait for a long legal battle to go through.
Nice avatar btw. |
Well he's not had that type of valuation but his sale is likely fall through because the buyers mortgage company won't lend until the cladding issue is resolved. They are essentially stuck in the flat. They have roaming fire wardens but it hasn't helped the situation.
Your government solution would work but you would be committing to a bottomless pit of expense and reclaiming after the fact on the courts would take years and would have no guarantee of success. In my opinion the only thing that is clear is that the private owner shouldn't be liable for the replacement costs.
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| Hosuing developer taking the piss yet again on 12:06 - Apr 16 with 1835 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Hosuing developer taking the piss yet again on 11:43 - Apr 16 by StokieBlue |
Read this earlier, it's a horrible situation.
Unfortunately (and I know this isn't the point) nobody is sure who is liable at the moment. At the time of building did the developer use the government approved cladding in which case is it really their fault? Should the government pay in this case?
It's a horrible situation, I really felt for the woman when I read it this morning and have a friend in the same position. It's the tip of the iceberg though and developers, insurers as the government will fight to assign liability as the bill is going to be massive to change everything nationwide.
I don't have much sympathy will developers given the profit's they have made over recent years but it's quite complicated. Doesn't help the poor woman and others unfortunately.
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Sensible post.
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| Hosuing developer taking the piss yet again on 12:08 - Apr 16 with 1827 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Hosuing developer taking the piss yet again on 11:51 - Apr 16 by giant_stow |
You've got a mate in the same boat - ouch.
This probably isn't realistic at all / simple-simon stuff, but the govt should cough up now and quickly, just to avoid another disaster or terrorism and then chase the developers for contributions in the courts.
Crazy that people just have to wait for a long legal battle to go through.
Nice avatar btw. |
Hang on, I thought it was the developers fault?
Now its the Goverments fault?
....I cant wait for the next installment. So many twists in this story, its like Prison Break. | |
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| Hosuing developer taking the piss yet again on 12:10 - Apr 16 with 1812 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Hosuing developer taking the piss yet again on 11:52 - Apr 16 by giant_stow |
I bludy hope not.
I think its testement to this particular woman that she wouldn;t rent it out for fear of what could happen to her future tennents. [Post edited 16 Apr 2018 11:54]
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Hmmmm......
"It is also not permissible under her Help to Buy contract" | |
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| Story taken out of context to suit posters political agenda yet again... on 12:12 - Apr 16 with 1805 views | giant_stow |
| Story taken out of context to suit posters political agenda yet again... on 12:05 - Apr 16 by Marshalls_Mullet |
How is the developer 'taking the piss'? |
By using allegedly sub-standard materials and then not doing anything about it, all while using a govt-run loans to help people pay for product, but accepting to responsability when a problem is discovered. Private profit - social risk. again. | |
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| Hosuing developer taking the piss yet again on 12:14 - Apr 16 with 1792 views | giant_stow |
| Hosuing developer taking the piss yet again on 12:08 - Apr 16 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Hang on, I thought it was the developers fault?
Now its the Goverments fault?
....I cant wait for the next installment. So many twists in this story, its like Prison Break. |
Don't put words in my mouth cheeky! I didn't say it was the governments fault - I said the govt should pay to fix it to save lives and then chase the money in the courts.
If you're gonna mock, at least get your facts straight. [Post edited 16 Apr 2018 12:15]
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| Story taken out of context to suit posters political agenda yet again... on 12:16 - Apr 16 with 1778 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Story taken out of context to suit posters political agenda yet again... on 12:12 - Apr 16 by giant_stow |
By using allegedly sub-standard materials and then not doing anything about it, all while using a govt-run loans to help people pay for product, but accepting to responsability when a problem is discovered. Private profit - social risk. again. |
Does it say in the story that the cladding didnt meet approved standards at the time?
Does the developer have liability, or does that lie with their contractor?
Did building regs sign the property off as being compliant?
The government loans were used by the purchasers, not by the developer.
As you have said previously, this is not a simple situation, despite your attempts to view it in an over simplistic manner. | |
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| Hosuing developer taking the piss yet again on 12:17 - Apr 16 with 1765 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Hosuing developer taking the piss yet again on 12:14 - Apr 16 by giant_stow |
Don't put words in my mouth cheeky! I didn't say it was the governments fault - I said the govt should pay to fix it to save lives and then chase the money in the courts.
If you're gonna mock, at least get your facts straight. [Post edited 16 Apr 2018 12:15]
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...another twist.
Where next? | |
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| Hosuing developer taking the piss yet again on 12:19 - Apr 16 with 1753 views | giant_stow |
| Hosuing developer taking the piss yet again on 12:17 - Apr 16 by Marshalls_Mullet |
...another twist.
Where next? |
...yes...busted.
I'm not playing if you won't play nicely - I've made my point and don;t want to go all dolly/gb. | |
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| Hosuing developer taking the piss yet again on 12:21 - Apr 16 with 1744 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Hosuing developer taking the piss yet again on 12:19 - Apr 16 by giant_stow |
...yes...busted.
I'm not playing if you won't play nicely - I've made my point and don;t want to go all dolly/gb. |
All good.
I take your point. | |
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| Hosuing developer taking the piss yet again on 12:22 - Apr 16 with 1736 views | hype313 |
Did you learn to spell from the Archant school of grammar? |  |
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| Hosuing developer taking the piss yet again on 12:25 - Apr 16 with 1717 views | giant_stow |
| Hosuing developer taking the piss yet again on 12:21 - Apr 16 by Marshalls_Mullet |
All good.
I take your point. |
fair dos. | |
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| Hosuing developer taking the piss yet again on 12:27 - Apr 16 with 1708 views | giant_stow |
| Hosuing developer taking the piss yet again on 12:22 - Apr 16 by hype313 |
Did you learn to spell from the Archant school of grammar? |
I learnt at The Islington In The 80s Grammar And Spelling Don't Matter Lets All Hug Instead School. | |
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