| Quite interesting from Corbyn 11:22 - Sep 24 with 4849 views | StokieBlue |
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41376138
So the reason he is lacklustre with his support for staying in the single market is because it will hamper his efforts to nationalise industries and provide state support.
At least he's honest about that but I wonder how it will sit with Labour voters? Are they going to want the single market or nationalisation?
If he wants to push through his last manifesto then not having to abide by EU competition and state aid laws would certainly be a help to him.
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| Quite interesting from Corbyn on 11:27 - Sep 24 with 4831 views | No9 |
As other EU countries havs shown and asto how EU rules work it is possible to nationalise industries, you just have to go about it he right way & not ignore the guidelines.
That is why there are many nationalised EU companies - some making a fortune out of the UK governments incompetence?
BTW it was interesting that Mr Marr never showed the same diligence when interviweing Mr Davis. Just as if the BBC are running scared of the Brexiteers? |  | | |
| Quite interesting from Corbyn on 11:29 - Sep 24 with 4826 views | StokieBlue |
| Quite interesting from Corbyn on 11:27 - Sep 24 by No9 |
As other EU countries havs shown and asto how EU rules work it is possible to nationalise industries, you just have to go about it he right way & not ignore the guidelines.
That is why there are many nationalised EU companies - some making a fortune out of the UK governments incompetence?
BTW it was interesting that Mr Marr never showed the same diligence when interviweing Mr Davis. Just as if the BBC are running scared of the Brexiteers? |
How many of those companies were nationalised after being privatised?
I suspect very few? Do you have numbers?
I actually can see his reasoning here - he's finally being honest on his position on the EU and why which is rather good.
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| Quite interesting from Corbyn on 11:34 - Sep 24 with 4816 views | No9 |
| Quite interesting from Corbyn on 11:29 - Sep 24 by StokieBlue |
How many of those companies were nationalised after being privatised?
I suspect very few? Do you have numbers?
I actually can see his reasoning here - he's finally being honest on his position on the EU and why which is rather good.
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Well in the UK Andrew Adonis followed the rules and 'nationalised' East Coast rail - which you may recall returned a profit to the treasury.
In Germany the governemnt is in the process of taking back the electric national grids from at least one of the private companies.
France has been investigating taking Alstom into public control.
How many times has the Italian government bought back into Ferrari?
Sorry I don't have time to do more at the moment but there has never been any question of not allowing DB, SNCF, Areva, et al from remaining in the public sector - it is just a matter of how it's done. | | | |
| Quite interesting from Corbyn on 11:38 - Sep 24 with 4800 views | FrowsyArmLarry |
| Quite interesting from Corbyn on 11:34 - Sep 24 by No9 |
Well in the UK Andrew Adonis followed the rules and 'nationalised' East Coast rail - which you may recall returned a profit to the treasury.
In Germany the governemnt is in the process of taking back the electric national grids from at least one of the private companies.
France has been investigating taking Alstom into public control.
How many times has the Italian government bought back into Ferrari?
Sorry I don't have time to do more at the moment but there has never been any question of not allowing DB, SNCF, Areva, et al from remaining in the public sector - it is just a matter of how it's done. |
Do they need to be profitable and audited though? I think Corbyn's plans include overstaffing, overpaying and funding all this with taxpayers money. |  | | |
| Quite interesting from Corbyn on 11:44 - Sep 24 with 4784 views | No9 |
| Quite interesting from Corbyn on 11:38 - Sep 24 by FrowsyArmLarry |
Do they need to be profitable and audited though? I think Corbyn's plans include overstaffing, overpaying and funding all this with taxpayers money. |
Andrew Adonis railway was profitable as confirmed by the treasury.
The industries in Europe that are nationalised seem to do very well and declare accounts.
The UK chucks money at wealthy organisations whether they need it or not.
One day the UK governemnt may have to explain how the LEP's are allowed to throw around so much taxpayers money unchecked or why we have to pay EU companies a fortune to provide our services ? | | | |
| Quite interesting from Corbyn on 12:05 - Sep 24 with 4745 views | brazil1982 |
" At least he's honest about that but I wonder how it will sit with Labour voters? Are they going to want the single market or nationalisation? "
Promise free stuff again and they'll vote for Labour. | | | |
| Quite interesting from Corbyn on 12:18 - Sep 24 with 4725 views | FrowsyArmLarry |
| Quite interesting from Corbyn on 11:44 - Sep 24 by No9 |
Andrew Adonis railway was profitable as confirmed by the treasury.
The industries in Europe that are nationalised seem to do very well and declare accounts.
The UK chucks money at wealthy organisations whether they need it or not.
One day the UK governemnt may have to explain how the LEP's are allowed to throw around so much taxpayers money unchecked or why we have to pay EU companies a fortune to provide our services ? |
Of course they're profitable in Europe I'm sure they're well run.
Meanwhile in the UK the Nationalised Highways Agency has still not delivered the M3 a year late. The reason being that it's constantly shut with nobody working on it..... money for old rope | | | |
| Quite interesting from Corbyn on 12:20 - Sep 24 with 4713 views | No9 |
| Quite interesting from Corbyn on 12:05 - Sep 24 by brazil1982 |
" At least he's honest about that but I wonder how it will sit with Labour voters? Are they going to want the single market or nationalisation? "
Promise free stuff again and they'll vote for Labour. |
Competent politicians without the interests of wealthy overseas backers could, with a bit of ingenuity , probably get both to the benefit of the taxpayer
However a lot of paradigms would need to change. | | | |
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| Quite interesting from Corbyn on 12:24 - Sep 24 with 4714 views | BlueBadger |
| Quite interesting from Corbyn on 12:20 - Sep 24 by No9 |
Competent politicians without the interests of wealthy overseas backers could, with a bit of ingenuity , probably get both to the benefit of the taxpayer
However a lot of paradigms would need to change. |
Well yes, Labour would need competent ministers for starters. |  |
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| Quite interesting from Corbyn on 12:25 - Sep 24 with 4710 views | BlueBadger |
| Quite interesting from Corbyn on 12:18 - Sep 24 by FrowsyArmLarry |
Of course they're profitable in Europe I'm sure they're well run.
Meanwhile in the UK the Nationalised Highways Agency has still not delivered the M3 a year late. The reason being that it's constantly shut with nobody working on it..... money for old rope |
And this is why austerity is ultimately a false saving. How much is being lost due to cuts meaning that the work can't be properly funded to go ahead? | |
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| Quite interesting from Corbyn on 12:43 - Sep 24 with 4685 views | Steve_M |
| Quite interesting from Corbyn on 12:05 - Sep 24 by brazil1982 |
" At least he's honest about that but I wonder how it will sit with Labour voters? Are they going to want the single market or nationalisation? "
Promise free stuff again and they'll vote for Labour. |
Unlike, say, promising any old crap to get people to vote for Brexit? |  |
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| Quite interesting from Corbyn on 13:04 - Sep 24 with 4655 views | No9 |
| Quite interesting from Corbyn on 12:18 - Sep 24 by FrowsyArmLarry |
Of course they're profitable in Europe I'm sure they're well run.
Meanwhile in the UK the Nationalised Highways Agency has still not delivered the M3 a year late. The reason being that it's constantly shut with nobody working on it..... money for old rope |
The UK highways agency is a government company founded in 2015
Previoulsy the highways agency had been run by WS Atkins had it not?
But as it is a governemnt company it should be under the direct control of the DfT which means yopu can contact them directly with your concerns?
How many years did it take private contractors to complete the M3 / M27 junction 20 - at least? | | | |
| Quite interesting from Corbyn on 20:09 - Sep 24 with 4506 views | Clapham_Junction |
| Quite interesting from Corbyn on 12:18 - Sep 24 by FrowsyArmLarry |
Of course they're profitable in Europe I'm sure they're well run.
Meanwhile in the UK the Nationalised Highways Agency has still not delivered the M3 a year late. The reason being that it's constantly shut with nobody working on it..... money for old rope |
The M3 work is being done by Balfour Beatty, a private contractor.
You're right about it being money for old rope though. |  | | |
| Quite interesting from Corbyn on 20:33 - Sep 24 with 4476 views | ElderGrizzly |
Well they’ve just voted to ban a vote on the topic of Brexit at any point in the Labour conference... |  | | |
| Quite interesting from Corbyn on 20:44 - Sep 24 with 4460 views | bournemouthblue |
Both National parties have their problems
The Tories look for more likely to implode with Boris playing his little games again |  |
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| Quite interesting from Corbyn on 22:14 - Sep 24 with 4403 views | Throbbe |
| Quite interesting from Corbyn on 13:04 - Sep 24 by No9 |
The UK highways agency is a government company founded in 2015
Previoulsy the highways agency had been run by WS Atkins had it not?
But as it is a governemnt company it should be under the direct control of the DfT which means yopu can contact them directly with your concerns?
How many years did it take private contractors to complete the M3 / M27 junction 20 - at least? |
Atkins were one of the Highways Agency's area management contractors. They had Area 6, which includes Suffolk, until a few years ago. Amey took it over, but it's now run by Kier.
https://www.constructionnews.co.uk/markets/sectors/roads/kier-in-talks-to-replac |  |
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| Quite interesting from Corbyn on 22:56 - Sep 24 with 4372 views | StochesStotasBlewe |
| Quite interesting from Corbyn on 20:33 - Sep 24 by ElderGrizzly |
Well they’ve just voted to ban a vote on the topic of Brexit at any point in the Labour conference... |
Momentum democracy in action. |  |
| We have no village green, or a shop.
It's very, very quiet.
I can walk to the pub. |
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| Quite interesting from Corbyn on 08:40 - Sep 25 with 4292 views | No9 |
Roads like everything else handed over to private organisations are a total mess. | | | |
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