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Socialist states 13:13 - Mar 18 with 1780 viewsuefacup81

Given the posts that have done the rounds on social media of late comparing current pictures of British supermarkets with the stock images of Venezuelan supermarkets used to highlight the dangers of socialism, part of me would be fascinated to know how 'true' socialist states are dealing with this sort of thing.

I dare say, if it was still around, East German citizens would have been having a much easier time of it than we are at the moment.

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Socialist states on 13:39 - Mar 18 with 1691 viewsmonytowbray

*political point scoring*

;)

I think the point is oddly true though. Only because they could easily enforce harsher measures and had authoritarian control over the population to begin with.

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Socialist states on 14:05 - Mar 18 with 1654 viewsuefacup81

Socialist states on 13:39 - Mar 18 by monytowbray

*political point scoring*

;)

I think the point is oddly true though. Only because they could easily enforce harsher measures and had authoritarian control over the population to begin with.


That was my thought process as I was wandering around the city this lunchtime, with my trusty German stoffbeutel, trying to find a solitary tin of tomatoes:



It reminded me of the stories of old East Germans always having a bag with them 'just in case'.

Surely a system whereby the state controls the means of production and distribution would have much more control over the current situation as opposed to one where everything is dictated by the market?

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Socialist states on 14:50 - Mar 18 with 1609 viewsSwansea_Blue

Feel sorry for the people of Venezuela; they could be completely hung out to dry in all of this. The IMF have already refused a request for a loan to help dealing with coronavirus. I can see IMF's point, although it'll be the people who suffer.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/03/18/imf-denies-venezuela-emergency-aid-h

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Socialist states on 15:04 - Mar 18 with 1569 viewsmonytowbray

Socialist states on 14:05 - Mar 18 by uefacup81

That was my thought process as I was wandering around the city this lunchtime, with my trusty German stoffbeutel, trying to find a solitary tin of tomatoes:



It reminded me of the stories of old East Germans always having a bag with them 'just in case'.

Surely a system whereby the state controls the means of production and distribution would have much more control over the current situation as opposed to one where everything is dictated by the market?


i guess it would depend on if it were global or isolated crisis in relation to the market. We all know how the Chernobyl disaster went and what led to the causes.

They'd certainly do more to lock it down but they'd also likely deny the issue for as long as possible.
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Socialist states on 15:05 - Mar 18 with 1567 viewsDoctor_Earman

Where would you define a ''true socialist state'' as existing? North Korea?
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Socialist states on 15:06 - Mar 18 with 1561 viewsmonytowbray

Socialist states on 15:05 - Mar 18 by Doctor_Earman

Where would you define a ''true socialist state'' as existing? North Korea?


North Korea is a dictatorship so no.

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Socialist states on 09:29 - Mar 19 with 1405 viewsbraveblue

Yes. East Germany was a great place to live.
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Socialist states on 09:49 - Mar 19 with 1387 viewsmonytowbray

Socialist states on 09:29 - Mar 19 by braveblue

Yes. East Germany was a great place to live.


Irrelevant to discussion.

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Socialist states on 10:02 - Mar 19 with 1373 viewsbournemouthblue

Socialist states on 15:05 - Mar 18 by Doctor_Earman

Where would you define a ''true socialist state'' as existing? North Korea?


A lot of countries will be more 'Socialist' than us

The Scandinavian countries have more left leaning models generally?

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Socialist states on 10:12 - Mar 19 with 1361 viewsjaykay

Socialist states on 15:04 - Mar 18 by monytowbray

i guess it would depend on if it were global or isolated crisis in relation to the market. We all know how the Chernobyl disaster went and what led to the causes.

They'd certainly do more to lock it down but they'd also likely deny the issue for as long as possible.
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as someone said the other day in this country we have socialism for the rich and capitalism for the poor.

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Socialist states on 13:48 - Mar 19 with 1281 viewsbraveblue

Socialist states on 09:49 - Mar 19 by monytowbray

Irrelevant to discussion.


OP said East Germans would have had it easier. It was a dreadful place to live. Indeed, it was not socialist but communist. Thought the point was obvious.
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Socialist states on 13:52 - Mar 19 with 1276 viewsmonytowbray

Socialist states on 10:12 - Mar 19 by jaykay

as someone said the other day in this country we have socialism for the rich and capitalism for the poor.


Might have been me lol.

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Socialist states on 13:53 - Mar 19 with 1271 viewsmonytowbray

Socialist states on 13:48 - Mar 19 by braveblue

OP said East Germans would have had it easier. It was a dreadful place to live. Indeed, it was not socialist but communist. Thought the point was obvious.


True point.

I think he meant directly in relation to dealing with the virus. I don't know anyone who'd particularly like to live in East Germany!

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