| The 'young' vote 10:29 - Dec 12 with 4369 views | Fixed_It |
Our school (secondary) held our election yesterday, based on the local candidates from our constituency (a Tory marginal seat btw). Without any influence from 'leftie' teachers (!), the results were as follows:
Labour 50%
Conservative 28%
Greens 17%
Lib Dems 5%
If only the country as a whole voted like this; the youngsters whose future depends on us getting it right!
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| The 'young' vote on 10:32 - Dec 12 with 2308 views | baxterbasics |
Well that's what comes of having no real world experience, having nothing to lose, and not appreciating what sacrifices have been made for the comfortable lives they all live today. Also being constantly told how bad their future is going to be rather than being encouraged to aspire. |  |
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| The 'young' vote on 10:33 - Dec 12 with 2287 views | Fixed_It |
| The 'young' vote on 10:32 - Dec 12 by baxterbasics |
Well that's what comes of having no real world experience, having nothing to lose, and not appreciating what sacrifices have been made for the comfortable lives they all live today. Also being constantly told how bad their future is going to be rather than being encouraged to aspire. |
Tell me more about these 'comfortable lives' they lead. I don't actually see it on a daily basis. | |
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| The 'young' vote on 10:34 - Dec 12 with 2273 views | BackToRussia |
| The 'young' vote on 10:32 - Dec 12 by baxterbasics |
Well that's what comes of having no real world experience, having nothing to lose, and not appreciating what sacrifices have been made for the comfortable lives they all live today. Also being constantly told how bad their future is going to be rather than being encouraged to aspire. |
Nothing to lose except their lives you mean? Actually you're probably a climate change denier aren't you. |  |
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| The 'young' vote on 10:43 - Dec 12 with 2236 views | Fixed_It |
| The 'young' vote on 10:33 - Dec 12 by Fixed_It |
Tell me more about these 'comfortable lives' they lead. I don't actually see it on a daily basis. |
No response?
Will it be the numbers who rely on food banks? The numbers with Social Services intervention due to difficult home lives? Will it be the numbers who receive support (eventually) from CAMHS? The self-harmers? The ones on waiting lists for counselling? The ones who can't access support because services have been cut?
And despite all that, they are taught to be aspirational. It's what schools do. Despite their lack of funding. [Post edited 12 Dec 2019 10:44]
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| The 'young' vote on 10:50 - Dec 12 with 2208 views | baxterbasics |
| The 'young' vote on 10:33 - Dec 12 by Fixed_It |
Tell me more about these 'comfortable lives' they lead. I don't actually see it on a daily basis. |
Take a step back and compare standards of living today compared with 30, 50+ years ago.
Despite the odd minor wobble, we have never been so secure, stable, prosperous and healthy, and this gets taken for granted. | |
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| The 'young' vote on 10:52 - Dec 12 with 2199 views | BackToRussia |
| The 'young' vote on 10:50 - Dec 12 by baxterbasics |
Take a step back and compare standards of living today compared with 30, 50+ years ago.
Despite the odd minor wobble, we have never been so secure, stable, prosperous and healthy, and this gets taken for granted. |
Have you missed the bits on the news where they talk about the climate irrevocably changing and the world becoming uninhabitable for vast swathes of the world? | |
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| The 'young' vote on 10:54 - Dec 12 with 2185 views | giant_stow |
| The 'young' vote on 10:32 - Dec 12 by baxterbasics |
Well that's what comes of having no real world experience, having nothing to lose, and not appreciating what sacrifices have been made for the comfortable lives they all live today. Also being constantly told how bad their future is going to be rather than being encouraged to aspire. |
Nothing to lose?!!! |  |
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| The 'young' vote on 10:56 - Dec 12 with 2170 views | DanTheMan |
| The 'young' vote on 10:50 - Dec 12 by baxterbasics |
Take a step back and compare standards of living today compared with 30, 50+ years ago.
Despite the odd minor wobble, we have never been so secure, stable, prosperous and healthy, and this gets taken for granted. |
Things have pretty much always improved with time.
People are allowed to want things to be better still, or to fight injustices or wrongs in a system even if things were better X years ago.
EDIT: Also I'm just going to ignore the whole climate change thing that the older generations have done a really great job of not just ignoring but actively trying to suppress. Even people on here over the years have moved from attacking it directly to "it's not so bad" to "maybe it's bad but oh well can't do anything now". [Post edited 12 Dec 2019 10:58]
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| The 'young' vote on 10:57 - Dec 12 with 2156 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| The 'young' vote on 10:50 - Dec 12 by baxterbasics |
Take a step back and compare standards of living today compared with 30, 50+ years ago.
Despite the odd minor wobble, we have never been so secure, stable, prosperous and healthy, and this gets taken for granted. |
Bahahahahahahahaha!! |  |
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| The 'young' vote on 11:10 - Dec 12 with 2118 views | Half_Idiot |
| The 'young' vote on 10:50 - Dec 12 by baxterbasics |
Take a step back and compare standards of living today compared with 30, 50+ years ago.
Despite the odd minor wobble, we have never been so secure, stable, prosperous and healthy, and this gets taken for granted. |
Try telling the 1-in-3 children living in poverty that they've got it easy. I'm sure all those kids whose families rely on food banks to eat are grateful of the situation they're in. |  | | |
| The 'young' vote on 11:16 - Dec 12 with 2076 views | BlueNomad |
| The 'young' vote on 10:32 - Dec 12 by baxterbasics |
Well that's what comes of having no real world experience, having nothing to lose, and not appreciating what sacrifices have been made for the comfortable lives they all live today. Also being constantly told how bad their future is going to be rather than being encouraged to aspire. |
You come to my school, situated in the constituency of the Tory Chairman, and see us feed kids because they wouldn't be otherwise, give them uniform, see staff regularly dipping into their own pockets for them and then when we have to take them to A&E because their parents are working and can't leave their zero-hours contract jobs. Then see if your arrogant, I'm alright Jack attitude can overcome the little bit of empathy that must exist somewhere in your soul.
(Add in all the things Fixed It said too) [Post edited 12 Dec 2019 11:20]
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| The 'young' vote on 11:21 - Dec 12 with 2053 views | Sarge |
| The 'young' vote on 10:32 - Dec 12 by baxterbasics |
Well that's what comes of having no real world experience, having nothing to lose, and not appreciating what sacrifices have been made for the comfortable lives they all live today. Also being constantly told how bad their future is going to be rather than being encouraged to aspire. |
Amazing how these people with ‘real world experience’ can be so blind as to what’s happening in it. | | | |
| The 'young' vote on 11:27 - Dec 12 with 2037 views | Fixed_It |
| The 'young' vote on 10:50 - Dec 12 by baxterbasics |
Take a step back and compare standards of living today compared with 30, 50+ years ago.
Despite the odd minor wobble, we have never been so secure, stable, prosperous and healthy, and this gets taken for granted. |
I have been a teacher for over 30 years. I don't need to take a step back. The problems our kids face today are multiple compared to when I started teaching. Sad - but true. | |
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| The 'young' vote on 11:38 - Dec 12 with 1981 views | BlueNomad |
| The 'young' vote on 11:27 - Dec 12 by Fixed_It |
I have been a teacher for over 30 years. I don't need to take a step back. The problems our kids face today are multiple compared to when I started teaching. Sad - but true. |
I have 42 years service in the public sector (inc teaching). It is worse now than it ever has been. Six years ago a referral to CAMHS (now EWMHS) would take 4-6 weeks to process, now it is more like 8-9 MONTHS. Social Care services are completely overwhelmed. The police are overwhelmed. Teachers are overwhelmed. The hospitals are overwhelmed (and exacerbated since the Referendum by staff returning to their European homelands). People sleeping in doorways in BSE when they never did before....................
So I could go on. Still, people like the OP think this country is better than it ever has been and if we had the life experience he/she has had we would appreciate everything the government has done for us in the past nine years.
(Sorry but this smug attitude has really boiled my blood today) [Post edited 12 Dec 2019 11:38]
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| The 'young' vote on 11:51 - Dec 12 with 1947 views | ClareBlue |
You are correct - it is of interest
I'm surprised the Greens are so low along with the Lib Dems.
I have seen the disconect between the real concerns about 'Green' issues and 'Green' representation and the Lib dems are selling a remain stance which is always associated with young people but not reflected here.
As adults we really can not really understand the younger generation. We think we can and pay token respect to their views and patronise them as having a simplistic view on life, when sometimes things really are simple. But, of course, the young have no experience of vested interests and cynicism and until they do, they see things clearer than adults. Then it all changes and they becaome 'grown up'.
Of course, my parents never understood me, but now I think they really did understand me as I find myself saying the same things to my children that my Father said to me. Where does the change happen that we become mean spirited, confrontational, and unempathetic with our fellow humans? | | | |
| The 'young' vote on 11:55 - Dec 12 with 1938 views | brazil1982 |
| The 'young' vote on 10:32 - Dec 12 by baxterbasics |
Well that's what comes of having no real world experience, having nothing to lose, and not appreciating what sacrifices have been made for the comfortable lives they all live today. Also being constantly told how bad their future is going to be rather than being encouraged to aspire. |
I wouldn't bother today, bb - it's a Labour love-in until tomorrow.
I'm on on the football only thread filter from now. | | | |
| The 'young' vote on 11:59 - Dec 12 with 1928 views | HennikerBlu |
The figures show 78% voting for the established parties, because it is Labour in the majority 'some' of you have extrapolated that into it shows that they are being more politically astute than the adult electorate.
What I would have hoped to see is a more radical departure, a stronger performance for the Greens, though at 17% it is better than reality. However, it is the young with groups like Extinction Rebellion which will influence and hopefully change the future; as Greta Thornberg made the point yesterday, governments are finding work arounds on targets and with the increased melting in Greenland we have very serious Climate Change issues that can no longer wait.
I think Climate Change should be front and centre of the education agenda. This is not about protesting, this is about finding real solutions to future problems, many of which can be business driven and provide jobs. This I believe is far beyond party politics.
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| The 'young' vote on 12:03 - Dec 12 with 1908 views | HennikerBlu |
| The 'young' vote on 11:16 - Dec 12 by BlueNomad |
You come to my school, situated in the constituency of the Tory Chairman, and see us feed kids because they wouldn't be otherwise, give them uniform, see staff regularly dipping into their own pockets for them and then when we have to take them to A&E because their parents are working and can't leave their zero-hours contract jobs. Then see if your arrogant, I'm alright Jack attitude can overcome the little bit of empathy that must exist somewhere in your soul.
(Add in all the things Fixed It said too) [Post edited 12 Dec 2019 11:20]
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You make some very worrying points and the help that many give freely should be recognised. | | | |
| The 'young' vote on 12:06 - Dec 12 with 1893 views | homer_123 |
| The 'young' vote on 11:59 - Dec 12 by HennikerBlu |
The figures show 78% voting for the established parties, because it is Labour in the majority 'some' of you have extrapolated that into it shows that they are being more politically astute than the adult electorate.
What I would have hoped to see is a more radical departure, a stronger performance for the Greens, though at 17% it is better than reality. However, it is the young with groups like Extinction Rebellion which will influence and hopefully change the future; as Greta Thornberg made the point yesterday, governments are finding work arounds on targets and with the increased melting in Greenland we have very serious Climate Change issues that can no longer wait.
I think Climate Change should be front and centre of the education agenda. This is not about protesting, this is about finding real solutions to future problems, many of which can be business driven and provide jobs. This I believe is far beyond party politics.
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The issue for the Green party is they have no credible history of running a country.
Saying that...can they be worse than the current incumbents? |  |
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| The 'young' vote on 12:52 - Dec 12 with 1825 views | monytowbray |
| The 'young' vote on 10:32 - Dec 12 by baxterbasics |
Well that's what comes of having no real world experience, having nothing to lose, and not appreciating what sacrifices have been made for the comfortable lives they all live today. Also being constantly told how bad their future is going to be rather than being encouraged to aspire. |
This is TWTD stupid post of the year. |  |
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| The 'young' vote on 13:03 - Dec 12 with 1779 views | BlueBadger |
| The 'young' vote on 10:32 - Dec 12 by baxterbasics |
Well that's what comes of having no real world experience, having nothing to lose, and not appreciating what sacrifices have been made for the comfortable lives they all live today. Also being constantly told how bad their future is going to be rather than being encouraged to aspire. |
Interesting to see someone in the 'real world' ignoring the experiences and expertise of those who know what they're talking about in favour of parroting their own horsesh1t again despite being corrected. [Post edited 12 Dec 2019 13:31]
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| The 'young' vote on 13:04 - Dec 12 with 1763 views | Herbivore |
| The 'young' vote on 10:50 - Dec 12 by baxterbasics |
Take a step back and compare standards of living today compared with 30, 50+ years ago.
Despite the odd minor wobble, we have never been so secure, stable, prosperous and healthy, and this gets taken for granted. |
Okay, boomer. |  |
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| POTD on 13:05 - Dec 12 with 1759 views | Dyland |
| The 'young' vote on 11:16 - Dec 12 by BlueNomad |
You come to my school, situated in the constituency of the Tory Chairman, and see us feed kids because they wouldn't be otherwise, give them uniform, see staff regularly dipping into their own pockets for them and then when we have to take them to A&E because their parents are working and can't leave their zero-hours contract jobs. Then see if your arrogant, I'm alright Jack attitude can overcome the little bit of empathy that must exist somewhere in your soul.
(Add in all the things Fixed It said too) [Post edited 12 Dec 2019 11:20]
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| patronising twaddle on 13:06 - Dec 12 with 1754 views | Dyland |
| The 'young' vote on 10:50 - Dec 12 by baxterbasics |
Take a step back and compare standards of living today compared with 30, 50+ years ago.
Despite the odd minor wobble, we have never been so secure, stable, prosperous and healthy, and this gets taken for granted. |
Open your fooking eyes ffs. | |
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| The 'young' vote on 13:08 - Dec 12 with 1739 views | BlueBadger |
| The 'young' vote on 10:50 - Dec 12 by baxterbasics |
Take a step back and compare standards of living today compared with 30, 50+ years ago.
Despite the odd minor wobble, we have never been so secure, stable, prosperous and healthy, and this gets taken for granted. |
Millions of people relying on food parcel handouts in the 6th largest economy in the world is neither secure, stable, healthy or sound evidence of real prosperity. [Post edited 12 Dec 2019 15:48]
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