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Why is this not a 'shot on target' 15:25 - Nov 27 with 959 viewsGeoffSentence



Edit: the time option does not seem to work in embedded videos. 54 seconds in, header cleared from just in front of te line.

For that matter there is also a shot at the end that is going goalwards but is blocked.


Begs the question what do they count as a shot on target?
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In the 38 games in which ALB played in goal for us, we averaged 1.53 points per game which, had they been over the course of a single season, would have seen us challenging for the play offs. This at a time when we were otherwise struggling against relegation. Oh, and didn't Mick Mills have terrific posture.
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Why is this not a 'shot on target' on 15:26 - Nov 27 with 943 viewsTractorCam

Who knows, not sure I even understand football anymore after all what went on last night.

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Why is this not a 'shot on target' on 16:17 - Nov 27 with 864 viewsbadadski

Why is this not a 'shot on target' on 15:26 - Nov 27 by TractorCam

Who knows, not sure I even understand football anymore after all what went on last night.


Holys last goal kick of the game was stopped by the keeper before the whistle was blown. That was on target.
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Why is this not a 'shot on target' on 16:23 - Nov 27 with 841 viewsEwan_Oozami

Because the keeper is behind the defender who blocked the ball - it's doesn't matter if the keeper couldn't have saved the ball had it not been blocked, it's about whether the person doing the blocking is effectively the "last man"

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Why is this not a 'shot on target' on 16:25 - Nov 27 with 831 viewsGeoffSentence

Why is this not a 'shot on target' on 16:23 - Nov 27 by Ewan_Oozami

Because the keeper is behind the defender who blocked the ball - it's doesn't matter if the keeper couldn't have saved the ball had it not been blocked, it's about whether the person doing the blocking is effectively the "last man"


So to be 'on target' as shot has to be heading towards the goal and stopped by the last person it is possible to stop it? Or go in of course.

It makes the whole 'shots on target' stat even more meaningless since it is not actually all shots on target. Just some of them.

In the 38 games in which ALB played in goal for us, we averaged 1.53 points per game which, had they been over the course of a single season, would have seen us challenging for the play offs. This at a time when we were otherwise struggling against relegation. Oh, and didn't Mick Mills have terrific posture.
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Why is this not a 'shot on target' on 17:01 - Nov 27 with 780 viewsEwan_Oozami

Why is this not a 'shot on target' on 16:25 - Nov 27 by GeoffSentence

So to be 'on target' as shot has to be heading towards the goal and stopped by the last person it is possible to stop it? Or go in of course.

It makes the whole 'shots on target' stat even more meaningless since it is not actually all shots on target. Just some of them.


Yep, definitely a degree of subjectivity there, but these are the official Opta definitions that count towards the stats:

Shot on target
A shot on target is defined as any goal attempt that:
• Goes into the net regardless of intent.
• Is a clear attempt to score that would have gone into the net but for being saved by the goalkeeper or is stopped by a player who is the last-man with the goalkeeper having no chance of preventing the goal (last line block).
Shots directly hitting the frame of the goal are not counted as shots on target, unless the ball goes in and is awarded as a goal.
Shots blocked by another player, who is not the last-man, are not counted as shots on target.

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Why is this not a 'shot on target' on 17:04 - Nov 27 with 773 viewsBrixtonBlue

Why is this not a 'shot on target' on 17:01 - Nov 27 by Ewan_Oozami

Yep, definitely a degree of subjectivity there, but these are the official Opta definitions that count towards the stats:

Shot on target
A shot on target is defined as any goal attempt that:
• Goes into the net regardless of intent.
• Is a clear attempt to score that would have gone into the net but for being saved by the goalkeeper or is stopped by a player who is the last-man with the goalkeeper having no chance of preventing the goal (last line block).
Shots directly hitting the frame of the goal are not counted as shots on target, unless the ball goes in and is awarded as a goal.
Shots blocked by another player, who is not the last-man, are not counted as shots on target.


That's ridiculous. Shots on target should be shots on target!

Did the Tories come up with this definition?!

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Why is this not a 'shot on target' on 17:05 - Nov 27 with 769 viewsSwansea_Blue

Why is this not a 'shot on target' on 17:01 - Nov 27 by Ewan_Oozami

Yep, definitely a degree of subjectivity there, but these are the official Opta definitions that count towards the stats:

Shot on target
A shot on target is defined as any goal attempt that:
• Goes into the net regardless of intent.
• Is a clear attempt to score that would have gone into the net but for being saved by the goalkeeper or is stopped by a player who is the last-man with the goalkeeper having no chance of preventing the goal (last line block).
Shots directly hitting the frame of the goal are not counted as shots on target, unless the ball goes in and is awarded as a goal.
Shots blocked by another player, who is not the last-man, are not counted as shots on target.


Huh, you learn summit new every day on here.

I'm pretty sure shots have been counted in the past when,a 25 or 30 yard speculative effort has been blocked in a crowded penaly area when there would have been plenty of cover. But maybe not, I'll pay more attention from now on.

This was a lot easier to ework out in MM's day, as there's only ever be a few shots on target or otherwise in the whole game!

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Why is this not a 'shot on target' on 21:56 - Nov 27 with 629 viewsstonojnr

Goalie has to make a save from it to be a shot on target, so the ball has to get to the keeper not just be in the general direction toward the goal but never get there, so no that doesnt count

And seriously if that did count and that was our best effort on goal no wonder we drew 0-0
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Because we had 17 shots and 7 (SEVEN) were blocked.... on 22:18 - Nov 27 with 600 viewsunstableblue

.... some bound for goal but stopped by a defender, off the line in the case you point out, and by a very clear looking arm on another....

OPTA state - "Shots blocked by another player, who is not the last-man, are not counted as shots on target", now I don't think the keeper would have actually go to those 2 and maybe more.

The 17 shots off target is a narrative for those on the board who have their minds set against this season, this league and Lambert.

Yes room for improvement, but we're playing OK, we're in a good position in the table, and the majority of fans are enjoying it, that's why we're getting 19k fans

Its quite simple
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Because we had 17 shots and 7 (SEVEN) were blocked.... on 22:28 - Nov 27 with 583 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Because we had 17 shots and 7 (SEVEN) were blocked.... on 22:18 - Nov 27 by unstableblue

.... some bound for goal but stopped by a defender, off the line in the case you point out, and by a very clear looking arm on another....

OPTA state - "Shots blocked by another player, who is not the last-man, are not counted as shots on target", now I don't think the keeper would have actually go to those 2 and maybe more.

The 17 shots off target is a narrative for those on the board who have their minds set against this season, this league and Lambert.

Yes room for improvement, but we're playing OK, we're in a good position in the table, and the majority of fans are enjoying it, that's why we're getting 19k fans

Its quite simple
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Did we have 17 shots? I thought one reaction said we didn't create anything.

OK statistics, damn lies and statistics, but 17 shots (plus one that should have been a goal but for a wrong refereeing decision) doesn't sound bad against a side with Wycombe's defensive record.

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SSSShhhhh on 22:40 - Nov 27 with 571 viewsunstableblue

Because we had 17 shots and 7 (SEVEN) were blocked.... on 22:28 - Nov 27 by Nthsuffolkblue

Did we have 17 shots? I thought one reaction said we didn't create anything.

OK statistics, damn lies and statistics, but 17 shots (plus one that should have been a goal but for a wrong refereeing decision) doesn't sound bad against a side with Wycombe's defensive record.


... remember the narrative is we were sh!t and it was a terrible game.

Ignore the 65% possession as well!

Oh and the fact our average home attendance thus far is 20k!

Now the Rotherham game this season - that was a terrible terrible performance - where, drum roll - we had 3 shots, perhaps these stats are onto something

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Because we had 17 shots and 7 (SEVEN) were blocked.... on 09:26 - Nov 28 with 358 viewsSamWhiteUK

Because we had 17 shots and 7 (SEVEN) were blocked.... on 22:28 - Nov 27 by Nthsuffolkblue

Did we have 17 shots? I thought one reaction said we didn't create anything.

OK statistics, damn lies and statistics, but 17 shots (plus one that should have been a goal but for a wrong refereeing decision) doesn't sound bad against a side with Wycombe's defensive record.


The flouncers say we didn't create anything. The sane people see that we were the better side.

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