| Dozzell 14:20 - Nov 21 with 5563 views | JakeITFC |
Changed both of those games v Lincoln once moved into a deeper central midfield position.
I really think we will improve as a team if we can get him in that role permanently (rather than out wide or in a ten). I get the arguments around physicality and coasting through games, but I really think (as the second half last night shows) that we have plenty of players in this squad who can allow us to just play on the front foot and give him the time and space to make him really effective. |  | | |  |
| Dozzell on 14:35 - Nov 21 with 4449 views | Garv |
I'm quietly confident he will eventually come good, very good.
I see no benefit to us selling him for a few million quid in January/summer, just because he hasn't fulfilled potential yet. |  |
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| Dozzell on 14:40 - Nov 21 with 4415 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Dozzell on 14:35 - Nov 21 by Garv |
I'm quietly confident he will eventually come good, very good.
I see no benefit to us selling him for a few million quid in January/summer, just because he hasn't fulfilled potential yet. |
I wouldn’t have thought he was worth ‘a few million quid’ right now, but still completely agree
This is undoubtedly an optimistic outlook, but if (and its a big IF) Dozzell can establish a role this season, help us gain promotion, and then play regularly and impress next year, then based on current transfer fees his value would be significant - and quite possibly north of 10 figures
For the record I’m by no means convinced that will happen, but I think he’s worth persisting with as the potential rewards both on the pitch, and ultimately off it, could be huge |  |
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| Dozzell on 14:42 - Nov 21 with 4412 views | Hullblue |
I think you might be right, but what shape would you do it in?
Downes and Skuse have been two of our best players so far this season, so it's difficult to drop either. And I don't think the balance is right if you play all three at once. |  |
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| Dozzell on 14:42 - Nov 21 with 4411 views | Garv |
| Dozzell on 14:40 - Nov 21 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
I wouldn’t have thought he was worth ‘a few million quid’ right now, but still completely agree
This is undoubtedly an optimistic outlook, but if (and its a big IF) Dozzell can establish a role this season, help us gain promotion, and then play regularly and impress next year, then based on current transfer fees his value would be significant - and quite possibly north of 10 figures
For the record I’m by no means convinced that will happen, but I think he’s worth persisting with as the potential rewards both on the pitch, and ultimately off it, could be huge |
Agree with all that. You're right, it's debatable.
But isn't it common knowledge - may have been EADT lot - that Norwich were willing to offer £3/5m for him? Can't remember exactly what they said it was.
Having said that, after a stop start season so far, that value has probably dropped since the summer. [Post edited 21 Nov 2019 14:43]
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| Dozzell on 14:44 - Nov 21 with 4399 views | chicoazul |
| Dozzell on 14:35 - Nov 21 by Garv |
I'm quietly confident he will eventually come good, very good.
I see no benefit to us selling him for a few million quid in January/summer, just because he hasn't fulfilled potential yet. |
lol at a third division team selling their fifth choice CM for "a few million quid" |  |
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| Dozzell on 14:44 - Nov 21 with 4397 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Dozzell on 14:40 - Nov 21 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
I wouldn’t have thought he was worth ‘a few million quid’ right now, but still completely agree
This is undoubtedly an optimistic outlook, but if (and its a big IF) Dozzell can establish a role this season, help us gain promotion, and then play regularly and impress next year, then based on current transfer fees his value would be significant - and quite possibly north of 10 figures
For the record I’m by no means convinced that will happen, but I think he’s worth persisting with as the potential rewards both on the pitch, and ultimately off it, could be huge |
Just as a side note, his contract is up next summer (although no doubt we'll take the years option in it), do we run the risk of him going in to his final year without a new deal and then possibly leaving for free ... especially if he does kick on? |  |
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| Dozzell on 14:44 - Nov 21 with 4390 views | itfcjoe |
| Dozzell on 14:40 - Nov 21 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
I wouldn’t have thought he was worth ‘a few million quid’ right now, but still completely agree
This is undoubtedly an optimistic outlook, but if (and its a big IF) Dozzell can establish a role this season, help us gain promotion, and then play regularly and impress next year, then based on current transfer fees his value would be significant - and quite possibly north of 10 figures
For the record I’m by no means convinced that will happen, but I think he’s worth persisting with as the potential rewards both on the pitch, and ultimately off it, could be huge |
10 figures? Isn’t that £1bn - seems unlikely..... |  |
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| Dozzell on 14:56 - Nov 21 with 4325 views | Illinoisblue |
| Dozzell on 14:35 - Nov 21 by Garv |
I'm quietly confident he will eventually come good, very good.
I see no benefit to us selling him for a few million quid in January/summer, just because he hasn't fulfilled potential yet. |
he'll be playing for a midtable prem side within a couple years. He has more talent than Maitland-Niles, for example, who seems to be almst a regular at Arsenal. |  |
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| Dozzell on 14:56 - Nov 21 with 4309 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Dozzell on 14:42 - Nov 21 by Garv |
Agree with all that. You're right, it's debatable.
But isn't it common knowledge - may have been EADT lot - that Norwich were willing to offer £3/5m for him? Can't remember exactly what they said it was.
Having said that, after a stop start season so far, that value has probably dropped since the summer. [Post edited 21 Nov 2019 14:43]
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I expect it will have done, and in any event I expect any deal would be heavily incentive laden which would be a huge risk given the struggle he would have establishing himself at a PL side
I could be way wide of the mark mind you. I’ve long stopped being surprised by transfer fees, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t plenty that are way out from what I’d have expected! | |
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| Dozzell on 14:57 - Nov 21 with 4295 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Dozzell on 14:44 - Nov 21 by itfcjoe |
10 figures? Isn’t that £1bn - seems unlikely..... |
Not when you add the pence... 😳
(Was woken up at 5 and it’s been a long day!) | |
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| Dozzell on 15:12 - Nov 21 with 4212 views | JakeITFC |
| Dozzell on 14:42 - Nov 21 by Hullblue |
I think you might be right, but what shape would you do it in?
Downes and Skuse have been two of our best players so far this season, so it's difficult to drop either. And I don't think the balance is right if you play all three at once. |
Ideally the Skuse role
Dozzell for the reasons mentioned above
Downes for energy and tackling
Huws/Nolan/Bishop for the ball carrying and drive | | | |
| Dozzell on 15:13 - Nov 21 with 4196 views | Dyland |
| Dozzell on 15:12 - Nov 21 by JakeITFC |
Ideally the Skuse role
Dozzell for the reasons mentioned above
Downes for energy and tackling
Huws/Nolan/Bishop for the ball carrying and drive |
I agree, and as a Skuse fan to boot. |  |
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| Dozzell on 15:14 - Nov 21 with 4192 views | BiGDonnie |
I said this on here a while ago and was jumped on - Skuse is in the position we need to see Dozzer in, thus hampering his development. IMO, of course. |  |
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| Dozzell on 15:16 - Nov 21 with 4173 views | TractorCam |
| Dozzell on 15:14 - Nov 21 by BiGDonnie |
I said this on here a while ago and was jumped on - Skuse is in the position we need to see Dozzer in, thus hampering his development. IMO, of course. |
But Skuse has been one of our best players.
It's funny how Dozzell has been lynched and now he's put in 2 respectable performances suddenly he should be starting over one of our better players. |  |
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| Dozzell on 15:18 - Nov 21 with 4162 views | Hullblue |
| Dozzell on 15:12 - Nov 21 by JakeITFC |
Ideally the Skuse role
Dozzell for the reasons mentioned above
Downes for energy and tackling
Huws/Nolan/Bishop for the ball carrying and drive |
Agree that would be the best fit for him, but Skuse makes so many important tackles and interceptions. Maybe that wouldn’t be quite so necessary if we could keep hold of the ball a bit better though.
Dozzell, Downes and Bishop would be a dream. | |
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| Dozzell on 15:27 - Nov 21 with 4079 views | Garv |
| Dozzell on 14:56 - Nov 21 by Illinoisblue |
he'll be playing for a midtable prem side within a couple years. He has more talent than Maitland-Niles, for example, who seems to be almst a regular at Arsenal. |
I can see that happening. Not Arsenal mind, but someone. | |
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| Dozzell on 15:28 - Nov 21 with 4073 views | Garv |
| Dozzell on 15:16 - Nov 21 by TractorCam |
But Skuse has been one of our best players.
It's funny how Dozzell has been lynched and now he's put in 2 respectable performances suddenly he should be starting over one of our better players. |
Not sure he said he should be starting, just that Skuse playing is hampering his development, which is a reasonable point. | |
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| Dozzell on 15:30 - Nov 21 with 4051 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Dozzell on 14:44 - Nov 21 by itfcjoe |
10 figures? Isn’t that £1bn - seems unlikely..... |
Does depend on where you put the decimal point. |  |
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| Dozzell on 15:31 - Nov 21 with 4039 views | Garv |
| Dozzell on 14:56 - Nov 21 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
I expect it will have done, and in any event I expect any deal would be heavily incentive laden which would be a huge risk given the struggle he would have establishing himself at a PL side
I could be way wide of the mark mind you. I’ve long stopped being surprised by transfer fees, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t plenty that are way out from what I’d have expected! |
There is an argument that he would suit a Premier League side better. And he'd have presumably a big upgrade on coaching and be able to play his natural game more than he can at the moment. | |
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| Dozzell on 15:32 - Nov 21 with 4025 views | itfcjoe |
Get him in the team, it’s time. | |
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| Dozzell on 15:36 - Nov 21 with 3947 views | BLUEBEAT |
| Dozzell on 14:44 - Nov 21 by chicoazul |
lol at a third division team selling their fifth choice CM for "a few million quid" |
That does seem crazy when put like that.
But we will be a second division club in a few months time... |  |
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| Dozzell on 15:45 - Nov 21 with 3886 views | TractorCam |
| Dozzell on 15:32 - Nov 21 by itfcjoe |
Get him in the team, it’s time. |
Who you dropping and why?
Skuse and Downes lead the way as our best players so far, so unless we're playing 3 midfielders in that role I don't see how he's valued of a start. Hopefully some more impressive performances off the bench and cup games and he'll be ready should there be a suspension/injury. | |
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| Dozzell on 15:53 - Nov 21 with 3826 views | itfcjoe |
| Dozzell on 15:45 - Nov 21 by TractorCam |
Who you dropping and why?
Skuse and Downes lead the way as our best players so far, so unless we're playing 3 midfielders in that role I don't see how he's valued of a start. Hopefully some more impressive performances off the bench and cup games and he'll be ready should there be a suspension/injury. |
Skuse, think not having Downes alongside him showed him up recently. D&D is the future | |
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| Dozzell on 15:53 - Nov 21 with 3815 views | BiGDonnie |
| Dozzell on 15:28 - Nov 21 by Garv |
Not sure he said he should be starting, just that Skuse playing is hampering his development, which is a reasonable point. |
Yep, what he said.
Still, let's do the old TWTD and not read something properly in the hope of scoring some internet points. Sigh. | |
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| Dozzell on 15:57 - Nov 21 with 3782 views | BiGDonnie |
| Dozzell on 15:53 - Nov 21 by itfcjoe |
Skuse, think not having Downes alongside him showed him up recently. D&D is the future |
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