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Driving back from Accrington this afternoon I have considered hard what to do about what I heard on terraces today not for the first time. I've been going to football for over 40 years and dont consider myself a snowflake. I also consider the overwhelming majority of our away supporters amongst the best in the land and am proud to consider myself a Tractor Boy.
However....
After the events in Sofia last week and then disturbingly at Haringey involving Yeovil supporters, a certain song mentioned on another thread on here about one of our own players was sung by a small group of 10 or so several times today. It made myself squirm a little as it did others around me. I considered saying something but chickened out, then considered drawing it to attention of a steward or policeman. Thinking that would bring terrible publicity for club I stood and ignored it. It never got going as a song and am sure players didn't hear. Driving home I listened to Haringey manager talking on radio saying supporters should shop others doing and saying these things. I wish now I had stepped up.
Driving back from Accrington this afternoon I have considered hard what to do about what I heard on terraces today not for the first time. I've been going to football for over 40 years and dont consider myself a snowflake. I also consider the overwhelming majority of our away supporters amongst the best in the land and am proud to consider myself a Tractor Boy.
However....
After the events in Sofia last week and then disturbingly at Haringey involving Yeovil supporters, a certain song mentioned on another thread on here about one of our own players was sung by a small group of 10 or so several times today. It made myself squirm a little as it did others around me. I considered saying something but chickened out, then considered drawing it to attention of a steward or policeman. Thinking that would bring terrible publicity for club I stood and ignored it. It never got going as a song and am sure players didn't hear. Driving home I listened to Haringey manager talking on radio saying supporters should shop others doing and saying these things. I wish now I had stepped up.
Driving back from Accrington this afternoon I have considered hard what to do about what I heard on terraces today not for the first time. I've been going to football for over 40 years and dont consider myself a snowflake. I also consider the overwhelming majority of our away supporters amongst the best in the land and am proud to consider myself a Tractor Boy.
However....
After the events in Sofia last week and then disturbingly at Haringey involving Yeovil supporters, a certain song mentioned on another thread on here about one of our own players was sung by a small group of 10 or so several times today. It made myself squirm a little as it did others around me. I considered saying something but chickened out, then considered drawing it to attention of a steward or policeman. Thinking that would bring terrible publicity for club I stood and ignored it. It never got going as a song and am sure players didn't hear. Driving home I listened to Haringey manager talking on radio saying supporters should shop others doing and saying these things. I wish now I had stepped up.
What should I do guys?
And currently, 2 people still think it's acceptable ...
Driving back from Accrington this afternoon I have considered hard what to do about what I heard on terraces today not for the first time. I've been going to football for over 40 years and dont consider myself a snowflake. I also consider the overwhelming majority of our away supporters amongst the best in the land and am proud to consider myself a Tractor Boy.
However....
After the events in Sofia last week and then disturbingly at Haringey involving Yeovil supporters, a certain song mentioned on another thread on here about one of our own players was sung by a small group of 10 or so several times today. It made myself squirm a little as it did others around me. I considered saying something but chickened out, then considered drawing it to attention of a steward or policeman. Thinking that would bring terrible publicity for club I stood and ignored it. It never got going as a song and am sure players didn't hear. Driving home I listened to Haringey manager talking on radio saying supporters should shop others doing and saying these things. I wish now I had stepped up.
What should I do guys?
yes i'd seen this reference but don't know how the 'song' itself goes etc (maybe i don't want to!)
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As supporters is the song acceptable? on 13:29 - Oct 21 with 4861 views
I’ve heard it 3 times, the most audible against Gills in the cup. Toto responded and seemed to enjoy it, but it was hard to tell and also, if he was upset, is he going to take on a stand of fans?
I don’t like it, for a number of reasons: it’s pretty dumb and makes us look immature and ignorant at best and racist at worst (IMO).
I think it sets a worrying precedent if we let things like that back onto the terraces, especially in today’s climate. There’s no need for it. I’m not saying that every single person singing it is a racist, but why risk offending someone? Why put something like that out there?
Even if it is meant in “good spirits”, it’s still based on a stereotype. It isn’t acceptable and yes, I think it is racist.
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As supporters is the song acceptable? on 15:05 - Oct 21 with 4588 views
As supporters is the song acceptable? on 14:58 - Oct 21 by Swailsey
I’ve heard it 3 times, the most audible against Gills in the cup. Toto responded and seemed to enjoy it, but it was hard to tell and also, if he was upset, is he going to take on a stand of fans?
I don’t like it, for a number of reasons: it’s pretty dumb and makes us look immature and ignorant at best and racist at worst (IMO).
I think it sets a worrying precedent if we let things like that back onto the terraces, especially in today’s climate. There’s no need for it. I’m not saying that every single person singing it is a racist, but why risk offending someone? Why put something like that out there?
Even if it is meant in “good spirits”, it’s still based on a stereotype. It isn’t acceptable and yes, I think it is racist.
[Post edited 22 Oct 2019 7:35]
I agree it was quite loud against Gillingham at home and in poor taste really but as you say Toto did sort of grin at it in front of the Sir Bobby .
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As supporters is the song acceptable? on 15:55 - Oct 21 with 4486 views
The song is racist, there is no room for debate here.
I have posted at great length about this on here so I won’t again, but the dehumanisation and hyper-sexualisation of black men is an abuse borne in the times of slavery and this song is a continuation of that.
It is entirely possible that the people singing the song think didn’t/don’t think there is a problem with it, which is why it is important that they learn why it is.
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As supporters is the song acceptable? on 17:31 - Oct 21 with 4281 views
As supporters is the song acceptable? on 17:31 - Oct 21 by StokieBlue
Since you like to vote down my posts explaining that it is racist would you care to explain how it isn't racist?
You are very certain so it should be a doddle to explain it.
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It’s about a mans todger.
It’s a pathetic song. Nothing demeaning in it. Nothing abusive. None of the horrific racial slurs which I won’t write down as they are very offensive.
Just another mountain being made of a non existent molehill which sadly seems to be the way these days.
Toto is on record as saying he thinks it’s funny, LC has the lyric sticker on his phone, he must be nearing KKK status given the outrage on a schoolboy song.
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As supporters is the song acceptable? on 17:42 - Oct 21 with 4245 views
As supporters is the song acceptable? on 17:39 - Oct 21 by yesjohn99
It’s about a mans todger.
It’s a pathetic song. Nothing demeaning in it. Nothing abusive. None of the horrific racial slurs which I won’t write down as they are very offensive.
Just another mountain being made of a non existent molehill which sadly seems to be the way these days.
Toto is on record as saying he thinks it’s funny, LC has the lyric sticker on his phone, he must be nearing KKK status given the outrage on a schoolboy song.
There's a reason songs like that aren't sung to white players. Can you think why that would be? Could it be that white men aren't stereotyped for being extremely well endowed?
It's a racial stereotype, which means it's racist.
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As supporters is the song acceptable? on 17:42 - Oct 21 by footers
There's a reason songs like that aren't sung to white players. Can you think why that would be? Could it be that white men aren't stereotyped for being extremely well endowed?
It's a racial stereotype, which means it's racist.
Not offensive, not racist.
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As supporters is the song acceptable? on 17:48 - Oct 21 with 4216 views
As supporters is the song acceptable? on 17:46 - Oct 21 by yesjohn99
Not offensive, not racist.
You keep saying that, but you haven't said why.
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As supporters is the song acceptable? on 17:30 - Oct 21 by JakeITFC
The song is racist, there is no room for debate here.
I have posted at great length about this on here so I won’t again, but the dehumanisation and hyper-sexualisation of black men is an abuse borne in the times of slavery and this song is a continuation of that.
It is entirely possible that the people singing the song think didn’t/don’t think there is a problem with it, which is why it is important that they learn why it is.
As supporters is the song acceptable? on 17:39 - Oct 21 by yesjohn99
It’s about a mans todger.
It’s a pathetic song. Nothing demeaning in it. Nothing abusive. None of the horrific racial slurs which I won’t write down as they are very offensive.
Just another mountain being made of a non existent molehill which sadly seems to be the way these days.
Toto is on record as saying he thinks it’s funny, LC has the lyric sticker on his phone, he must be nearing KKK status given the outrage on a schoolboy song.
"Just another mountain being made of a non existent molehill "
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