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He's not holding back! Sometimes seen him get a bit agitated on Question Time but never seen him this brassed off before!
Read the comments and you will see his views have gone down rather well with over 6.2k thumbs up and less than 100 thumbs down at the time of writing.
Here is one comment for example: Dragon Energy 3 days ago Starkey is utterly ON FIRE here. Demolishes one historical myth after another. An utter tour de force.
David Starkey is not a happy bunny! on 14:01 - Sep 18 by footers
David Starkey taking on 'the elite'. Lol wut.
His dad was a factory foreman and his mum a cleaner, I wouldn't call that traditional elite. The accent was adopted to fit in when he went to Cambridge.
I've not listened to what he has been saying so am not passing any judgement on it but do suggest you shouldn't judge a book by it's cover.
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David Starkey is not a happy bunny! on 14:21 - Sep 18 with 3112 views
David Starkey is not a happy bunny! on 14:18 - Sep 18 by JonBlue
His dad was a factory foreman and his mum a cleaner, I wouldn't call that traditional elite. The accent was adopted to fit in when he went to Cambridge.
I've not listened to what he has been saying so am not passing any judgement on it but do suggest you shouldn't judge a book by it's cover.
As it's published on Spiked I think it's probably safe to say it's drivel, whatever it is.
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David Starkey is not a happy bunny! on 14:30 - Sep 18 by Swansea_Blue
I got as far as O’Neil saying he was going to be joined on stage soon by the “legendary Rod Liddle”. So that’s 14 seconds I’ll never get back.
Who was next after him? The intellectual colossus that is Richard Littlejohn?
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country."
David Starkey is not a happy bunny! on 14:01 - Sep 18 by footers
David Starkey taking on 'the elite'. Lol wut.
Wikipedia: David Robert Starkey CBE, FSA, FRHistS (born 3 January 1945) is an English constitutional historian and a radio and television presenter. Born the only child of Quaker parents, he attended Kendal Grammar School before studying at Cambridge through a scholarship.
David Starkey is not a happy bunny! on 14:41 - Sep 18 by midastouch
Wikipedia: David Robert Starkey CBE, FSA, FRHistS (born 3 January 1945) is an English constitutional historian and a radio and television presenter. Born the only child of Quaker parents, he attended Kendal Grammar School before studying at Cambridge through a scholarship.
Very cool, thank you.
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David Starkey is not a happy bunny! on 14:00 - Sep 18 by Ryorry
Flippin Nora - an hour's listen?! zero chance of that for me, any chance of a summary?
Here is the video summary: "Historian and broadcaster David Starkey discusses Brexit, parliament’s anti-democratic history, and the elites’ ‘absolute contempt’ for the people." Have a quick read through the video comments and you'll see a lot of support for what he had to say.
David Starkey is not a happy bunny! on 14:49 - Sep 18 by midastouch
Here is the video summary: "Historian and broadcaster David Starkey discusses Brexit, parliament’s anti-democratic history, and the elites’ ‘absolute contempt’ for the people." Have a quick read through the video comments and you'll see a lot of support for what he had to say.
Of course there’ll be support in the comments, it’s Spiked. Nobody goes there unless they want a booster for their PC gone mad inoculation . It’s somewhat of a partisan audience. About as representative as undertaking a survey into the popularity of ITFC at Portman Road.
David Starkey is not a happy bunny! on 15:20 - Sep 18 by Swansea_Blue
Of course there’ll be support in the comments, it’s Spiked. Nobody goes there unless they want a booster for their PC gone mad inoculation . It’s somewhat of a partisan audience. About as representative as undertaking a survey into the popularity of ITFC at Portman Road.
Stay inside the echo chamber. Makes life so much easier.
And anyway, what does David Starkey know about the history of our constitution and its relevance to Brexit.
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David Starkey is not a happy bunny! on 15:33 - Sep 18 with 2925 views
This is the same David Starkey who made a documentary about Sutton Hoo pronouncing the name of the river Deben the same way that the first two syllables of the town Debenham are pronounced. Yep, someone who really researches his subject before he launches into it. I bet the cameraman and soundman were working hard to suppress the laughter that day.
David Starkey is not a happy bunny! on 15:25 - Sep 18 by Bluedandy
Stay inside the echo chamber. Makes life so much easier.
And anyway, what does David Starkey know about the history of our constitution and its relevance to Brexit.
Have you listened to the interview?
On Dominic Grieve - “he’s a lying deceiving sh1t from start to finish...and an oiled sh1t - look at that awful greasy hairdo”. With Brendan ‘racism is just bantz’ O’Neill chuckling in the background.
How does that add anything positive to a discussion around constitutional history and Brexit?
David Starkey is not a happy bunny! on 15:33 - Sep 18 by WeWereZombies
This is the same David Starkey who made a documentary about Sutton Hoo pronouncing the name of the river Deben the same way that the first two syllables of the town Debenham are pronounced. Yep, someone who really researches his subject before he launches into it. I bet the cameraman and soundman were working hard to suppress the laughter that day.
Clearly Starkey isn't flavour of the month on here. But then it's not necessarily a bad thing to have detractors is it? Makes me think of this poem by Charles Mackay.
No Enemies
You have no enemies, you say? Alas! my friend, the boast is poor; He who has mingled in the fray Of duty, that the brave endure, Must have made foes! If you have none, Small is the work that you have done. You've hit no traitor on the hip, You've dashed no cup from perjured lip, You've never turned the wrong to right, You've been a coward in the fight. ---------
I'm sure Starkey has a lot more detractors than any of us here on the TWTD message board. And that's commensurate with his more distinguished achievements in life. Let's take a look at his catalogue of books: https://www.amazon.co.uk/David-Starkey/e/B000APUKL4
For a boy who went to grammar school I'd say he turned out very well indeed.
If the best you can do is pick fault of his pronunciation of the river Deben then that makes you seem to be somewhat of a nitpicker. Why be so negative and pick fault on a person that has done very well in his life from relatively humble beginnings? If my son was David Starkey I'd be very proud of him indeed. He's achieved a lot more in his life than I ever have or will.
David Starkey is not a happy bunny! on 15:51 - Sep 18 by Swansea_Blue
Have you listened to the interview?
On Dominic Grieve - “he’s a lying deceiving sh1t from start to finish...and an oiled sh1t - look at that awful greasy hairdo”. With Brendan ‘racism is just bantz’ O’Neill chuckling in the background.
How does that add anything positive to a discussion around constitutional history and Brexit?
David Starkey is not a happy bunny! on 16:17 - Sep 18 by midastouch
Clearly Starkey isn't flavour of the month on here. But then it's not necessarily a bad thing to have detractors is it? Makes me think of this poem by Charles Mackay.
No Enemies
You have no enemies, you say? Alas! my friend, the boast is poor; He who has mingled in the fray Of duty, that the brave endure, Must have made foes! If you have none, Small is the work that you have done. You've hit no traitor on the hip, You've dashed no cup from perjured lip, You've never turned the wrong to right, You've been a coward in the fight. ---------
I'm sure Starkey has a lot more detractors than any of us here on the TWTD message board. And that's commensurate with his more distinguished achievements in life. Let's take a look at his catalogue of books: https://www.amazon.co.uk/David-Starkey/e/B000APUKL4
For a boy who went to grammar school I'd say he turned out very well indeed.
If the best you can do is pick fault of his pronunciation of the river Deben then that makes you seem to be somewhat of a nitpicker. Why be so negative and pick fault on a person that has done very well in his life from relatively humble beginnings? If my son was David Starkey I'd be very proud of him indeed. He's achieved a lot more in his life than I ever have or will.
Sorry but getting pronunciation of the place names you are building your story on seems to be a reasonable expectation, and could be indicative of doing poor research. Furthermore, if people rely on experts such as Starkey then mistakes he makes are propagated far more widely than if you or I made them. You could call it sub-standard quality control.
I don't like his approach because he is biased to an unacceptable degree (in my view) and this makes his books and other output less valuable than better historians. There is a reason he is just Dr. David Starkey and not Professor David Starkey (as yet anyway). Life is long but not long enough to waste time on the mediocre so I will carry on reading Mary Beard and William McNeill if you don't mind.
David Starkey is not a happy bunny! on 16:34 - Sep 18 by WeWereZombies
Sorry but getting pronunciation of the place names you are building your story on seems to be a reasonable expectation, and could be indicative of doing poor research. Furthermore, if people rely on experts such as Starkey then mistakes he makes are propagated far more widely than if you or I made them. You could call it sub-standard quality control.
I don't like his approach because he is biased to an unacceptable degree (in my view) and this makes his books and other output less valuable than better historians. There is a reason he is just Dr. David Starkey and not Professor David Starkey (as yet anyway). Life is long but not long enough to waste time on the mediocre so I will carry on reading Mary Beard and William McNeill if you don't mind.
Of course I don't mind. Each to their own. Live long and prosper.
David Starkey is not a happy bunny! on 13:09 - Sep 18 by Darth_Koont
Feck Spiked.
They are the the hitmen of the "elite".
I thought it was a more right leaning media outlet. But it seems its original roots are not what I thought. Look under the bonnet and it's quite a muddled picture.
Please see the links below.
Seems they've had some dubious looking donations but then the media is rife with suspect backers from all sides of the political spectrum. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec/07/us-billionaires-hard-right The following extract is from the above link: "The organisation the Charles Koch Foundation has chosen to fund is at first sight astounding: a US organisation established by an obscure UK-based magazine run by former members of a tiny Trotskyite splinter group. Some of its core contributors still describe themselves as Marxists or Bolsheviks. But the harder you look at it, the more sense the Koch donations appear to make. The name of the magazine is Spiked. It emerged from a group with a comical history of left factionalism. In 1974, the International Socialists split after a dispute over arithmetic in Volume 3 of Das Kapital. One of the new factions formed the Revolutionary Communist Group. In 1976 it split again, and one of the splinters formed the Revolutionary Communist Tendency. It was led by a sociologist at the University of Kent called Frank Furedi. In 1981 it changed its name to the Revolutionary Communist party."
And here: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/11/mainstream-left-silencing- The following extract from the above link: "My stance on these issues makes some people in my “tribe” very angry. It is the anger of the pure believer towards the apostate. However, I can find echoes of my populist worldview in one strand of the left — that represented by the Spiked web magazine, which grew out of the ashes of Living Marxism and the Revolutionary Communist party, once known as the libertarian or anti-Stalinist left. Describing their philosophy as radical humanism, they poke and prod at the sacred cows of the left but from a socialist rather than a rightwing populist position. The fact that I enjoy Spiked — although I by no means agree with all of it — feels like dirty little secret. But that’s what the mainstream left specialises in: generating shame."
David Starkey is not a happy bunny! on 17:17 - Sep 18 by midastouch
I thought it was a more right leaning media outlet. But it seems its original roots are not what I thought. Look under the bonnet and it's quite a muddled picture.
Please see the links below.
Seems they've had some dubious looking donations but then the media is rife with suspect backers from all sides of the political spectrum. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec/07/us-billionaires-hard-right The following extract is from the above link: "The organisation the Charles Koch Foundation has chosen to fund is at first sight astounding: a US organisation established by an obscure UK-based magazine run by former members of a tiny Trotskyite splinter group. Some of its core contributors still describe themselves as Marxists or Bolsheviks. But the harder you look at it, the more sense the Koch donations appear to make. The name of the magazine is Spiked. It emerged from a group with a comical history of left factionalism. In 1974, the International Socialists split after a dispute over arithmetic in Volume 3 of Das Kapital. One of the new factions formed the Revolutionary Communist Group. In 1976 it split again, and one of the splinters formed the Revolutionary Communist Tendency. It was led by a sociologist at the University of Kent called Frank Furedi. In 1981 it changed its name to the Revolutionary Communist party."
And here: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/11/mainstream-left-silencing- The following extract from the above link: "My stance on these issues makes some people in my “tribe” very angry. It is the anger of the pure believer towards the apostate. However, I can find echoes of my populist worldview in one strand of the left — that represented by the Spiked web magazine, which grew out of the ashes of Living Marxism and the Revolutionary Communist party, once known as the libertarian or anti-Stalinist left. Describing their philosophy as radical humanism, they poke and prod at the sacred cows of the left but from a socialist rather than a rightwing populist position. The fact that I enjoy Spiked — although I by no means agree with all of it — feels like dirty little secret. But that’s what the mainstream left specialises in: generating shame."
I know their background. Their journey is a pretty disturbing one - especially with the nonsense and values they espouse now and the possibility that they haven't even arrived at their destination yet.
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David Starkey is not a happy bunny! on 17:30 - Sep 18 with 2678 views
David Starkey is not a happy bunny! on 15:20 - Sep 18 by Swansea_Blue
Of course there’ll be support in the comments, it’s Spiked. Nobody goes there unless they want a booster for their PC gone mad inoculation . It’s somewhat of a partisan audience. About as representative as undertaking a survey into the popularity of ITFC at Portman Road.
Exactly. I’m not passing comment on what he said (I haven’t watched it), but in general people spend time doing, and watching, what they like. If I have a free evening I don’t set the living room stereo to play hardcore jungle music at 90 million decibels then settle down to eight back to back Harry Potter films, I’d do something I enjoy. I’m not a masochist. That would be a Norwich fan on an Ipswich message board.
Therefore people only watch the stuff they want to watch, stuff they agree with, so the comments section of a website is going to be 99% full of support and agreement. And 1% proverbial Norwich fans.
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David Starkey is not a happy bunny! on 17:36 - Sep 18 with 2669 views
David Starkey is not a happy bunny! on 17:30 - Sep 18 by backinbeige
Exactly. I’m not passing comment on what he said (I haven’t watched it), but in general people spend time doing, and watching, what they like. If I have a free evening I don’t set the living room stereo to play hardcore jungle music at 90 million decibels then settle down to eight back to back Harry Potter films, I’d do something I enjoy. I’m not a masochist. That would be a Norwich fan on an Ipswich message board.
Therefore people only watch the stuff they want to watch, stuff they agree with, so the comments section of a website is going to be 99% full of support and agreement. And 1% proverbial Norwich fans.
“Personally I am very fond of strawberries and cream, but I have found that for some strange reason, fish prefer worms. So when I went fishing, I didn’t think about what I wanted. I thought about what they wanted. I didn't bait the hook with strawberries and cream. Rather, I dangled a worm or grasshopper in front of the fish and said: "Wouldn't you like to have that?" Why not use the same common sense when fishing for people?”
― Dale Carnegie, How to Win Friends and Influence People
Seems I'm putting the wrong bait on the hook with David Starkey around these parts! :-)
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