| JRM has been mugged right off here. 02:24 - Sep 3 with 22848 views | SpruceMoose |
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/02/jacob-rees-mogg-doctor-shameful
I'm glad all the lies, deceit and arrogance is being recorded so that when they are older his kids can read all about what vermin their father was.
Also, I'll trust the highly qualified doctor on this over some nanny raised toff who blew a fancy education to only achieve in a 2:1 in History. [Post edited 3 Sep 2019 3:03]
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| JRM has been mugged right off here. on 05:22 - Sep 3 with 3639 views | Ryorry |
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| JRM has been mugged right off here. on 05:27 - Sep 3 with 3629 views | Barneycurley |
TBF it is a tad scaremongeringish |  |
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| JRM has been mugged right off here. on 06:17 - Sep 3 with 3585 views | m14_blue |
| JRM has been mugged right off here. on 05:27 - Sep 3 by Barneycurley |
TBF it is a tad scaremongeringish |
What qualifies you to say that?
Interested to know how you’re better informed than this doctor. |  | | |
| JRM has been mugged right off here. on 06:31 - Sep 3 with 3570 views | Barneycurley |
| JRM has been mugged right off here. on 06:17 - Sep 3 by m14_blue |
What qualifies you to say that?
Interested to know how you’re better informed than this doctor. |
I mean he's also poss not privy to what medicines supplies are like either but if is doctor comes out with claims then they obv must be true! | |
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 06:37 - Sep 3 with 3561 views | Barneycurley |
| JRM has been mugged right off here. on 06:17 - Sep 3 by m14_blue |
What qualifies you to say that?
Interested to know how you’re better informed than this doctor. |
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| JRM has been mugged right off here. on 06:37 - Sep 3 with 3563 views | footers |
| JRM has been mugged right off here. on 06:31 - Sep 3 by Barneycurley |
I mean he's also poss not privy to what medicines supplies are like either but if is doctor comes out with claims then they obv must be true! |
He was just a consultant neurologist involved with the preparation for no deal, but what does he know, eh? Some twonk on a football messageboard has a feeling things will be alll right, so panic over. |  |
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| JRM has been mugged right off here. on 06:47 - Sep 3 with 3529 views | BlueBadger |
| JRM has been mugged right off here. on 05:27 - Sep 3 by Barneycurley |
TBF it is a tad scaremongeringish |
The doctor involved one of the government's own advisors who's been helping to draw up no deal plans. Are you suggesting the government's own flagship policy WON'T deliver fairies, unicorns, blue passports and no foreigners? |  |
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| JRM has been mugged right off here. on 06:48 - Sep 3 with 3536 views | Ftnfwest |
The guy has been involved with assessing whether there’s a risk of a shortage in the event of no deal and quantified it as part of his remit for the exercise I’m assuming. This again, I’m assuming, means the government can lay plans to overcome the risk, otherwise the exercise is a bit pointless. I don’t think the aim was for those involved to go to the media saying ‘there’s a risk this could happen and people could die, don’t you know (look at me, btw)’ and for people like JRM to be equally anal in their response. They can all just grow up tbh. |  | | |
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| JRM has been mugged right off here. on 06:50 - Sep 3 with 3515 views | BlueBadger |
| JRM has been mugged right off here. on 06:48 - Sep 3 by Ftnfwest |
The guy has been involved with assessing whether there’s a risk of a shortage in the event of no deal and quantified it as part of his remit for the exercise I’m assuming. This again, I’m assuming, means the government can lay plans to overcome the risk, otherwise the exercise is a bit pointless. I don’t think the aim was for those involved to go to the media saying ‘there’s a risk this could happen and people could die, don’t you know (look at me, btw)’ and for people like JRM to be equally anal in their response. They can all just grow up tbh. |
God I can't wait for November 1. I'll never have to deal with people like you who don't want to listen to experts ever again, because they've voted to leave all that behind. | |
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| JRM has been mugged right off here. on 06:53 - Sep 3 with 3499 views | m14_blue |
| JRM has been mugged right off here. on 06:31 - Sep 3 by Barneycurley |
I mean he's also poss not privy to what medicines supplies are like either but if is doctor comes out with claims then they obv must be true! |
I don’t think you can have listened to it.
He was involved in writing yellow hammer. Still, I’m sure you know more. | | | |
| JRM has been mugged right off here. on 06:56 - Sep 3 with 3488 views | Barneycurley |
| JRM has been mugged right off here. on 06:48 - Sep 3 by Ftnfwest |
The guy has been involved with assessing whether there’s a risk of a shortage in the event of no deal and quantified it as part of his remit for the exercise I’m assuming. This again, I’m assuming, means the government can lay plans to overcome the risk, otherwise the exercise is a bit pointless. I don’t think the aim was for those involved to go to the media saying ‘there’s a risk this could happen and people could die, don’t you know (look at me, btw)’ and for people like JRM to be equally anal in their response. They can all just grow up tbh. |
Exactly - I just find it deeply frustrating that someone intrusted to complete the risk assessment now decides the best way for him to communicate his concerns is to call someone a 'Muppet' hardly the wisest or retorts is it?
Now on a football message board being called a Muppet is de rigeur | |
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| JRM has been mugged right off here. on 06:58 - Sep 3 with 3477 views | BigManBlue |
| JRM has been mugged right off here. on 06:56 - Sep 3 by Barneycurley |
Exactly - I just find it deeply frustrating that someone intrusted to complete the risk assessment now decides the best way for him to communicate his concerns is to call someone a 'Muppet' hardly the wisest or retorts is it?
Now on a football message board being called a Muppet is de rigeur |
But then, an MP dismissing advice on a potentially life and death matter from someone who presumably knows what they’re talking about, because it came from a “remoaner”, isn’t the model I’d have in mind for doing that job... |  |
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| JRM has been mugged right off here. on 06:59 - Sep 3 with 3479 views | BlueBadger |
| JRM has been mugged right off here. on 06:56 - Sep 3 by Barneycurley |
Exactly - I just find it deeply frustrating that someone intrusted to complete the risk assessment now decides the best way for him to communicate his concerns is to call someone a 'Muppet' hardly the wisest or retorts is it?
Now on a football message board being called a Muppet is de rigeur |
In all fairness, he's trying to communicate his findings, as an expert, to someone who is being completely and utterly ignorant regarding his findings and advice, mainly because he a financial interest in there BEING chaos. Frankly, 'muppet' is a pretty light adjective to describe Walter the Homophobic Softy. [Post edited 3 Sep 2019 7:00]
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| JRM has been mugged right off here. on 07:01 - Sep 3 with 3467 views | m14_blue |
| JRM has been mugged right off here. on 06:48 - Sep 3 by Ftnfwest |
The guy has been involved with assessing whether there’s a risk of a shortage in the event of no deal and quantified it as part of his remit for the exercise I’m assuming. This again, I’m assuming, means the government can lay plans to overcome the risk, otherwise the exercise is a bit pointless. I don’t think the aim was for those involved to go to the media saying ‘there’s a risk this could happen and people could die, don’t you know (look at me, btw)’ and for people like JRM to be equally anal in their response. They can all just grow up tbh. |
Do you not think whistle blowing is the right thing to do if a doctor, someone who has devoted their career to helping people, can see that politicians are willing to risk lives, and lying to the public about it, in order to achieve their political aims?
I really, really, really do.
Worth noting that he also pointed out that, according to the agencies involved, nothing has changed since yellowhammer.
I suppose it comes down to whether you would rather trust this doctor, who appears to have nothing to gain by lying, or JRM, Boris, Raab, Hancock, Farage, Cummins et al, whose entire political careers depend on pulling off Brexit no matter what. | | | |
| JRM has been mugged right off here. on 07:24 - Sep 3 with 3393 views | Ftnfwest |
| JRM has been mugged right off here. on 07:01 - Sep 3 by m14_blue |
Do you not think whistle blowing is the right thing to do if a doctor, someone who has devoted their career to helping people, can see that politicians are willing to risk lives, and lying to the public about it, in order to achieve their political aims?
I really, really, really do.
Worth noting that he also pointed out that, according to the agencies involved, nothing has changed since yellowhammer.
I suppose it comes down to whether you would rather trust this doctor, who appears to have nothing to gain by lying, or JRM, Boris, Raab, Hancock, Farage, Cummins et al, whose entire political careers depend on pulling off Brexit no matter what. |
You’re right they should have been consulting experts like this some months ago as part of a risk analysis in the event of no deal. As we are still in the EU and he wrote his article in March I’m uncertain to be fair what should have changed in the meantime other than drawing up contingency plans. Not sure where I’ve said we ignore people like Mr Nicholls, other than he and JRM calling each other names I’m not sure he has been ignored, has he? | | | |
| JRM has been mugged right off here. on 07:25 - Sep 3 with 3387 views | Ftnfwest |
| JRM has been mugged right off here. on 06:50 - Sep 3 by BlueBadger |
God I can't wait for November 1. I'll never have to deal with people like you who don't want to listen to experts ever again, because they've voted to leave all that behind. |
All the government need to do was consult him as part of a risk exercise and they couldn’t even do that | | | |
| JRM has been mugged right off here. on 07:30 - Sep 3 with 3371 views | m14_blue |
| JRM has been mugged right off here. on 07:24 - Sep 3 by Ftnfwest |
You’re right they should have been consulting experts like this some months ago as part of a risk analysis in the event of no deal. As we are still in the EU and he wrote his article in March I’m uncertain to be fair what should have changed in the meantime other than drawing up contingency plans. Not sure where I’ve said we ignore people like Mr Nicholls, other than he and JRM calling each other names I’m not sure he has been ignored, has he? |
But they haven’t drawn up any meaningful contingency plans, or if they have then they don’t appear to have consulted the relevant bodies.
You don’t want him to say anything about his concerns, I think he’s absolutely right to. In fact, in these circumstances, I would say it would be bordering on immoral not to. | | | |
| JRM has been mugged right off here. on 07:39 - Sep 3 with 3348 views | Ftnfwest |
| JRM has been mugged right off here. on 07:30 - Sep 3 by m14_blue |
But they haven’t drawn up any meaningful contingency plans, or if they have then they don’t appear to have consulted the relevant bodies.
You don’t want him to say anything about his concerns, I think he’s absolutely right to. In fact, in these circumstances, I would say it would be bordering on immoral not to. |
I’m happy for him to raise his concerns as part of the contingency planning which I’m no expert on but everyone else seems to be, because that was the whole point of it. From what I can see his separate article was written in March at the time the consultation was happening when he was already part of the process to stop such eventualities happening. If you’re suggesting (or at least the Guardian is) that they have evidence that the government is deliberately ignoring the advice then yes the government are all idiots. | | | |
| JRM has been mugged right off here. on 07:41 - Sep 3 with 3336 views | footers |
| JRM has been mugged right off here. on 07:39 - Sep 3 by Ftnfwest |
I’m happy for him to raise his concerns as part of the contingency planning which I’m no expert on but everyone else seems to be, because that was the whole point of it. From what I can see his separate article was written in March at the time the consultation was happening when he was already part of the process to stop such eventualities happening. If you’re suggesting (or at least the Guardian is) that they have evidence that the government is deliberately ignoring the advice then yes the government are all idiots. |
What further evidence is needed than a member of the government dismissing his concerns and simply labelling him a remoaner? | |
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| JRM has been mugged right off here. on 07:41 - Sep 3 with 3332 views | m14_blue |
| JRM has been mugged right off here. on 07:39 - Sep 3 by Ftnfwest |
I’m happy for him to raise his concerns as part of the contingency planning which I’m no expert on but everyone else seems to be, because that was the whole point of it. From what I can see his separate article was written in March at the time the consultation was happening when he was already part of the process to stop such eventualities happening. If you’re suggesting (or at least the Guardian is) that they have evidence that the government is deliberately ignoring the advice then yes the government are all idiots. |
That’s what he said during the conversation and JRM didn’t dispute it, just attacked the messenger.
He could be wrong, I have no idea, like I said before, it depends who you trust more. [Post edited 3 Sep 2019 7:47]
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| JRM has been mugged right off here. on 08:12 - Sep 3 with 3266 views | BlueBadger |
| JRM has been mugged right off here. on 07:25 - Sep 3 by Ftnfwest |
All the government need to do was consult him as part of a risk exercise and they couldn’t even do that |
He was part of the Operation Yellowhammer team assessing risk. They did consult him and JRM is trying to ignore and dismiss his claims. Because he stands to make a lot of money from a no-deal. | |
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| JRM has been mugged right off here. on 08:51 - Sep 3 with 3198 views | factual_blue |
| JRM has been mugged right off here. on 06:37 - Sep 3 by footers |
He was just a consultant neurologist involved with the preparation for no deal, but what does he know, eh? Some twonk on a football messageboard has a feeling things will be alll right, so panic over. |
Dimwit brexiteers just need to Get Behind Their Country, and we'll get the Empire back. |  |
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| JRM has been mugged right off here. on 08:55 - Sep 3 with 3187 views | Swansea_Blue |
| JRM has been mugged right off here. on 06:31 - Sep 3 by Barneycurley |
I mean he's also poss not privy to what medicines supplies are like either but if is doctor comes out with claims then they obv must be true! |
He literally wrote the government's risk assessment document  |  |
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| JRM has been mugged right off here. on 08:58 - Sep 3 with 3178 views | Ftnfwest |
| JRM has been mugged right off here. on 08:12 - Sep 3 by BlueBadger |
He was part of the Operation Yellowhammer team assessing risk. They did consult him and JRM is trying to ignore and dismiss his claims. Because he stands to make a lot of money from a no-deal. |
He's certainly trying to dismiss his claim that JRM has a proportion of people in mind that he's happy to accept will die, not surprisingly. | | | |
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