| PL saying Woolfy is going and inexperienced 09:23 - Aug 18 with 3621 views | BryanPlug |
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| PL saying Woolfy is going and inexperienced on 09:27 - Aug 18 with 3151 views | Reuser_is_God |
What an odd criticism. |  |
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| PL saying Woolfy is going and inexperienced on 09:29 - Aug 18 with 3127 views | homer_123 |
It seems that whenever we make a mistake it costs us dearly....irrespective of who it is. |  |
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| PL saying Woolfy is going and inexperienced on 09:35 - Aug 18 with 3058 views | GeoffSentence |
Looked like a soft free-kick to me, bit of a dive in fact.
But the real problem was the the goal scorer had a free header from that free kick. |  |
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| PL saying Woolfy is going and inexperienced on 09:39 - Aug 18 with 3025 views | bluejacko |
Of course it had nothing to do with their No 17 throwing himself to the floor every chance did it ? |  | | |
| PL saying Woolfy is going and inexperienced on 09:40 - Aug 18 with 3011 views | Westcountryblue |
I think the issue with that goal was more to do with Donacien's pathetic defending.
If the likes of Rowe or Edwards gets pushed away too easily in a set piece and fail to get tight to their marker, maybe that's a little more understable. But for someone who is a CB by trade to get brushed aside so easily is unprofessional.
Oh for the days when we had the likes of Tommy Smith and Berra wearing gum shield at set pieces [Post edited 18 Aug 2019 9:41]
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| PL saying Woolfy is going and inexperienced on 09:44 - Aug 18 with 2965 views | BlueBadger |
Weird. |  |
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| PL saying Woolfy is going and inexperienced on 10:05 - Aug 18 with 2847 views | Simonds92 |
| PL saying Woolfy is going and inexperienced on 09:35 - Aug 18 by GeoffSentence |
Looked like a soft free-kick to me, bit of a dive in fact.
But the real problem was the the goal scorer had a free header from that free kick. |
Exactly this, absolutely no way it was a freekick, he backed in to Wolfenden and then went down i cant believe the ref bought it. The only experience he can gain from that is the standard of refereeing is dreadful in this division (not that the Championship is much better). | | | |
| PL saying Woolfy is going and inexperienced on 10:24 - Aug 18 with 2739 views | longtimefan |
| PL saying Woolfy is going and inexperienced on 09:40 - Aug 18 by Westcountryblue |
I think the issue with that goal was more to do with Donacien's pathetic defending.
If the likes of Rowe or Edwards gets pushed away too easily in a set piece and fail to get tight to their marker, maybe that's a little more understable. But for someone who is a CB by trade to get brushed aside so easily is unprofessional.
Oh for the days when we had the likes of Tommy Smith and Berra wearing gum shield at set pieces [Post edited 18 Aug 2019 9:41]
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I thought at the time the goal scorer looked rather guilty - he had a very long look at the assistant to check he hadn’t raised his flag. There was no chance of a offside so I presumed he’d done something nefarious and got away with it. Looking at the replays though I can’t see anything.
Edited - having now seen a better quality video the scorer actually creates the space by giving Donacien a pretty big push. No wonder he looked concerned. [Post edited 18 Aug 2019 10:39]
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| PL saying Woolfy is going and inexperienced on 10:26 - Aug 18 with 2729 views | bluefunk |
| PL saying Woolfy is going and inexperienced on 09:35 - Aug 18 by GeoffSentence |
Looked like a soft free-kick to me, bit of a dive in fact.
But the real problem was the the goal scorer had a free header from that free kick. |
That “free kick” happened right in front of us, and Woolfenden showed his inexperience. Toney had been throwing himself over at every touch and the ref Ewan’s buying it, he was going nowhere and all Woolfenden has to do was hold him up but he got too close and Tonetpy went down.
Donacien’s powder puff defending allowed Toney to finish off the (albeit very good) delivery |  | | |
| PL saying Woolfy is going and inexperienced on 10:28 - Aug 18 with 2710 views | BLUEBEAT |
| PL saying Woolfy is going and inexperienced on 09:35 - Aug 18 by GeoffSentence |
Looked like a soft free-kick to me, bit of a dive in fact.
But the real problem was the the goal scorer had a free header from that free kick. |
and every single one of our players were in the box! |  |
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| PL saying Woolfy is going and inexperienced on 10:29 - Aug 18 with 2695 views | Vaughan8 |
Is the OP having a rather strange dig at Chambers?
Some people on here are really strange........
Suppose you can't take he got a last minute equaliser. It's ok. You'll get over it | | | |
| PL saying Woolfy is going and inexperienced on 10:30 - Aug 18 with 2691 views | StokieBlue |
| PL saying Woolfy is going and inexperienced on 09:27 - Aug 18 by Reuser_is_God |
What an odd criticism. |
People are looking for anything to complain about. This place was like a nursery yesterday. Many seem to think we should be Barcelona and win every match 5-0 but then even Barcelona lost this weekend.
It's just all a bit odd and unnecessary. People just want to argue.
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| PL saying Woolfy is going and inexperienced on 10:57 - Aug 18 with 2588 views | itfcjoe |
| PL saying Woolfy is going and inexperienced on 10:24 - Aug 18 by longtimefan |
I thought at the time the goal scorer looked rather guilty - he had a very long look at the assistant to check he hadn’t raised his flag. There was no chance of a offside so I presumed he’d done something nefarious and got away with it. Looking at the replays though I can’t see anything.
Edited - having now seen a better quality video the scorer actually creates the space by giving Donacien a pretty big push. No wonder he looked concerned. [Post edited 18 Aug 2019 10:39]
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It would have been disallowed if the ref had seen it, or if there was VAR!
I think harsh to blame Donacien like some are - it's quite hard to not lose man when he gives you such an OTT push like that - was just blatant |  |
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| PL saying Woolfy is going and inexperienced on 10:58 - Aug 18 with 2584 views | itfcjoe |
| PL saying Woolfy is going and inexperienced on 10:30 - Aug 18 by StokieBlue |
People are looking for anything to complain about. This place was like a nursery yesterday. Many seem to think we should be Barcelona and win every match 5-0 but then even Barcelona lost this weekend.
It's just all a bit odd and unnecessary. People just want to argue.
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No one, other than you, has said anything about being like Barceloan | |
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| PL saying Woolfy is going and inexperienced on 10:58 - Aug 18 with 2577 views | pointofblue |
| PL saying Woolfy is going and inexperienced on 10:57 - Aug 18 by itfcjoe |
It would have been disallowed if the ref had seen it, or if there was VAR!
I think harsh to blame Donacien like some are - it's quite hard to not lose man when he gives you such an OTT push like that - was just blatant |
Like some are - including our manager! | |
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| PL saying Woolfy is going and inexperienced on 11:00 - Aug 18 with 2559 views | StokieBlue |
| PL saying Woolfy is going and inexperienced on 10:58 - Aug 18 by itfcjoe |
No one, other than you, has said anything about being like Barceloan |
It's an exaggeration to make a point.
Loads of posts yesterday were saying how poor we were, how it was a bad start, how we need this or that or how the club is a failure etc etc etc.
Their expectations are bizarre - it's been a decent start if one looks at it rationally.
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| PL saying Woolfy is going and inexperienced on 11:00 - Aug 18 with 2556 views | BlueBadger |
| PL saying Woolfy is going and inexperienced on 10:30 - Aug 18 by StokieBlue |
People are looking for anything to complain about. This place was like a nursery yesterday. Many seem to think we should be Barcelona and win every match 5-0 but then even Barcelona lost this weekend.
It's just all a bit odd and unnecessary. People just want to argue.
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NO THEY DON'T | |
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| PL saying Woolfy is going and inexperienced on 11:15 - Aug 18 with 2489 views | itfcjoe |
| PL saying Woolfy is going and inexperienced on 11:00 - Aug 18 by StokieBlue |
It's an exaggeration to make a point.
Loads of posts yesterday were saying how poor we were, how it was a bad start, how we need this or that or how the club is a failure etc etc etc.
Their expectations are bizarre - it's been a decent start if one looks at it rationally.
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But you can't just look at points on the pitch - I think a lot of the concerns are genuine and are things that were raised at back end of last season when Lambert had been in charge for 25 games.
We can't keep blaming lack of players, or injuries, or availability - we should be further along into working out what we are trying to do as a footballing team.
I think the biggest positive so far about League 1 is how cr@p the standard is | |
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| PL saying Woolfy is going and inexperienced on 11:25 - Aug 18 with 2437 views | clive_baker |
Whether it was a foul or not is irrelevant, Lambert’s point is valid. With the striker heading away from goal towards the corner flag Woolfy shouldn’t even give the ref a chance to give that. But these things happen, he’s young and has been promising in these first 3 games. Very encouraging signs. |  |
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| PL saying Woolfy is going and inexperienced on 11:27 - Aug 18 with 2407 views | StokieBlue |
| PL saying Woolfy is going and inexperienced on 11:15 - Aug 18 by itfcjoe |
But you can't just look at points on the pitch - I think a lot of the concerns are genuine and are things that were raised at back end of last season when Lambert had been in charge for 25 games.
We can't keep blaming lack of players, or injuries, or availability - we should be further along into working out what we are trying to do as a footballing team.
I think the biggest positive so far about League 1 is how cr@p the standard is |
It's been 3 games, that's not enough to form any sensible opinion on how this season is going to go - it's a sample size of 3 out of 46. That also doesn't factor in that those games have been against other favourites for promotion.
Why not wait until we have played a cross-section of what the division has to offer (ie. the next 3 games at the very least) before starting to form these opinions?
Availability of players does make a difference, you can't just dismiss it.
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| PL saying Woolfy is going and inexperienced on 11:39 - Aug 18 with 2363 views | itfcjoe |
| PL saying Woolfy is going and inexperienced on 11:27 - Aug 18 by StokieBlue |
It's been 3 games, that's not enough to form any sensible opinion on how this season is going to go - it's a sample size of 3 out of 46. That also doesn't factor in that those games have been against other favourites for promotion.
Why not wait until we have played a cross-section of what the division has to offer (ie. the next 3 games at the very least) before starting to form these opinions?
Availability of players does make a difference, you can't just dismiss it.
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There are 30 games last season that Lambert managed also which help form more of a smaple of working out what he is trying to do | |
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| PL saying Woolfy is going and inexperienced on 11:55 - Aug 18 with 2272 views | pointofblue |
| PL saying Woolfy is going and inexperienced on 11:39 - Aug 18 by itfcjoe |
There are 30 games last season that Lambert managed also which help form more of a smaple of working out what he is trying to do |
Is Lambert’s style so different from what has gone before that it’s taken a long time to implement? If so, should we be looking at another style if the players are incapable of adapting to it? If not, what’s the problem, why are we still lacking shape or purpose at times in the match? My big bugbear is why we seemingly start so well then fade and why this has been an issue for a while. | |
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| PL saying Woolfy is going and inexperienced on 11:58 - Aug 18 with 2247 views | itfcjoe |
| PL saying Woolfy is going and inexperienced on 11:55 - Aug 18 by pointofblue |
Is Lambert’s style so different from what has gone before that it’s taken a long time to implement? If so, should we be looking at another style if the players are incapable of adapting to it? If not, what’s the problem, why are we still lacking shape or purpose at times in the match? My big bugbear is why we seemingly start so well then fade and why this has been an issue for a while. |
It was initially, with the split centre backs etc and we were having to watch that from behind the sofa at times - but we haven't persisted with it at all and it seems now to be the most basic of 442s at the moment, direct and hit it early.
There are signs of promise at time when we can work decent openings and hit well on the counter - but we are a big hitter in this league and games like AFCW on TUesday aren't going to see us counter as they will stick 11 behind the ball.
Look at what Farke was doing at Norwich, in their 1st season they may have looked goalshy at times, but it was clear what they were trying to achieve and they added the extra players into that style to make it work. | |
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| PL saying Woolfy is going and inexperienced on 12:03 - Aug 18 with 2206 views | pointofblue |
| PL saying Woolfy is going and inexperienced on 11:58 - Aug 18 by itfcjoe |
It was initially, with the split centre backs etc and we were having to watch that from behind the sofa at times - but we haven't persisted with it at all and it seems now to be the most basic of 442s at the moment, direct and hit it early.
There are signs of promise at time when we can work decent openings and hit well on the counter - but we are a big hitter in this league and games like AFCW on TUesday aren't going to see us counter as they will stick 11 behind the ball.
Look at what Farke was doing at Norwich, in their 1st season they may have looked goalshy at times, but it was clear what they were trying to achieve and they added the extra players into that style to make it work. |
It’ll be interesting to see what happens if we manage to hit Wimbledon early as to whether they’ll just want to keep the score respectable or if they want to search for a point - if the latter they may play into our hands.
I assume with two full backs lacking in quality, one old fashioned centre back and a youngster he perhaps doesn’t want to put too much pressure on the defence to play from the back. With Holy’s kicks we can turn a side around quickly and old fashioned target man will help in this regard. We probably don’t have the support on the wings to aid this style of play which is why Lambert’s looking for full backs who can play on the overlap. Get those players in and the style we’re seemingly trying may be more successful.
The irony being is that much different from Mick’s approach? | |
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| PL saying Woolfy is going and inexperienced on 12:06 - Aug 18 with 2182 views | itfcjoe |
| PL saying Woolfy is going and inexperienced on 12:03 - Aug 18 by pointofblue |
It’ll be interesting to see what happens if we manage to hit Wimbledon early as to whether they’ll just want to keep the score respectable or if they want to search for a point - if the latter they may play into our hands.
I assume with two full backs lacking in quality, one old fashioned centre back and a youngster he perhaps doesn’t want to put too much pressure on the defence to play from the back. With Holy’s kicks we can turn a side around quickly and old fashioned target man will help in this regard. We probably don’t have the support on the wings to aid this style of play which is why Lambert’s looking for full backs who can play on the overlap. Get those players in and the style we’re seemingly trying may be more successful.
The irony being is that much different from Mick’s approach? |
It's a bit neater than Mick's, and a bit less safety first and reactive to the opposition - but not overly. | |
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