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Donacien 16:06 - Aug 11 with 6386 viewsKeaneish

At the time everyone raised their eyebrows at PL's comments insisting Donacien was a centre back. Given he was very shaky there opening day against Blackburn and looked more comfortable at RB we all thought there had to be some underlying current as to why PL was squeezing him out. However, watching him over the last few games, PL was bang on. He's a competent RB defensively but going forward he's lost. He doesn't look comfortable in advanced positions, takes an extra touch when he doesn't need to and looks fearful trying to get beyond someone or put the ball in the box.

With Vincent-Young being linked, it's a matter of time for Donacien before he becomes a bench warmer at best. Anyone else disagree with that or is it a foregone conclusion?

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Donacien on 16:12 - Aug 11 with 5367 viewsITFCBlues

Thought Kenlock was equally as poor on the other side of I'm being honest.

He wasn't great going forward that's for sure. Put some poor crosses into the box. Hopefully we can get this Colchester lad in.

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Donacien on 16:19 - Aug 11 with 5309 viewsTRUE_BLUE123

I think Donacien has been far better than Kenlock.

Donacien is a very good one on one defender and he's pretty good in the air which is effective when dealing with cross fields. But you are right that he does seem to drift in to Centre half.

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Donacien on 16:22 - Aug 11 with 5278 viewsBLUEBEAT

Not a bench-warmer, a CB if Vincent-Young comes in.

Watching how Sunderland were set up and then looking out our squad, especially the enriched midfield, I’d say our team is screaming out for 3-5-2 (or 3-5-1-1 when Judge starts).

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Donacien on 16:26 - Aug 11 with 5252 viewsWickets

I think both our backs have done ok this season so far, Kenlock gave away several needless free kicks at Burton but thought he was better yesterday but neither give much going forward , i am a little surprised Emmanuel does not get a look in Pl does not seem to rate a player that i thought did well at Rotherham a couple of years ago . Dont know anything about Vincent-Young is he more of a wing back ?
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Donacien on 16:27 - Aug 11 with 5242 viewsHerbivore

Donacien on 16:22 - Aug 11 by BLUEBEAT

Not a bench-warmer, a CB if Vincent-Young comes in.

Watching how Sunderland were set up and then looking out our squad, especially the enriched midfield, I’d say our team is screaming out for 3-5-2 (or 3-5-1-1 when Judge starts).


We aren't remotely suited to playing 3-5-2.

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Donacien on 16:58 - Aug 11 with 5124 viewsStadiumofdark

Donacien on 16:27 - Aug 11 by Herbivore

We aren't remotely suited to playing 3-5-2.


well, aside from the two wing-back types we need.... why do you say that? ;-)
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Donacien on 17:10 - Aug 11 with 5072 viewsElderGrizzly

I can see VY coming in to challenge Kenlock, not Donacien?
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Donacien on 17:17 - Aug 11 with 5032 viewsjas0999

He’s not a right back. Did okay yesterday but no more. We need a right back no question.
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Donacien on 17:33 - Aug 11 with 4958 viewsHerbivore

Donacien on 16:58 - Aug 11 by Stadiumofdark

well, aside from the two wing-back types we need.... why do you say that? ;-)


Indeed. And the lack of ball playing centre halves too. Aside from that it's a great idea.

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Donacien on 17:36 - Aug 11 with 4945 viewsJ2BLUE

Donacien on 17:33 - Aug 11 by Herbivore

Indeed. And the lack of ball playing centre halves too. Aside from that it's a great idea.


Isn't Garbutt a decent LWB? Not that I disagree with your overall point.

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Donacien on 17:39 - Aug 11 with 4922 viewsThe_Last_Baron

Our full back slots are the weak areas in the team. If we are to go up we need to sort this out.

We also need another striker.

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Donacien on 17:49 - Aug 11 with 4859 viewsHerbivore

Donacien on 17:36 - Aug 11 by J2BLUE

Isn't Garbutt a decent LWB? Not that I disagree with your overall point.


Seems more effective as a winger but could probably do a job as a wing back. That would leave Kenlock on the sidelines though and still with nobody on the right.
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Donacien on 18:07 - Aug 11 with 4782 viewsGarv

I really like him defensively, but you’re right he’s not much of an attacker, not on yesterday’s evidence anyway.

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Donacien on 18:24 - Aug 11 with 4703 viewsGaryCooper

Donacien on 17:33 - Aug 11 by Herbivore

Indeed. And the lack of ball playing centre halves too. Aside from that it's a great idea.


You don't believe that could be Wolfenden? He was a class apart yesterday.
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Donacien on 18:56 - Aug 11 with 4561 viewsBtreeBlueBlood

Donacien on 18:24 - Aug 11 by GaryCooper

You don't believe that could be Wolfenden? He was a class apart yesterday.


That position was nailed on for Webster but never got s chance.

Wolfie! Looks like he could be the ball player in a back 3 or 5
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Donacien on 19:00 - Aug 11 with 4545 viewsBLUEBEAT

Donacien on 16:27 - Aug 11 by Herbivore

We aren't remotely suited to playing 3-5-2.


Vincent-Young can wingback, Garbutt can wingback.

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Donacien on 19:01 - Aug 11 with 4540 viewsBLUEBEAT

Donacien on 16:58 - Aug 11 by Stadiumofdark

well, aside from the two wing-back types we need.... why do you say that? ;-)


As I said, Vincent-Young can wingback, Garbutt can wingback.

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Donacien on 19:02 - Aug 11 with 4536 viewsBLUEBEAT

Donacien on 17:36 - Aug 11 by J2BLUE

Isn't Garbutt a decent LWB? Not that I disagree with your overall point.


Yes, he is.

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Donacien on 20:19 - Aug 11 with 4304 viewsHerbivore

Donacien on 19:00 - Aug 11 by BLUEBEAT

Vincent-Young can wingback, Garbutt can wingback.


Vincent-Young isn't an Ipswich player. And we still have the issue of not having centre backs who are mobile and comfortable on the ball. It's not a system we're at all suited to imo.

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Donacien on 20:20 - Aug 11 with 4307 viewsElderGrizzly

Donacien on 20:19 - Aug 11 by Herbivore

Vincent-Young isn't an Ipswich player. And we still have the issue of not having centre backs who are mobile and comfortable on the ball. It's not a system we're at all suited to imo.


Woolfenden is pretty mobile and comfortable on the ball?
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Donacien on 20:22 - Aug 11 with 4293 viewsBLUEBEAT

Donacien on 20:19 - Aug 11 by Herbivore

Vincent-Young isn't an Ipswich player. And we still have the issue of not having centre backs who are mobile and comfortable on the ball. It's not a system we're at all suited to imo.


But if we do sign him it’s a viable option.

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Donacien on 20:23 - Aug 11 with 4284 viewsHerbivore

Donacien on 20:20 - Aug 11 by ElderGrizzly

Woolfenden is pretty mobile and comfortable on the ball?


He's also a novice and would be the only one of the back three with any real mobility. We can't field a balanced, decent back three. I just don't think it's remotely the system to get the best from the players we have.

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Donacien on 20:32 - Aug 11 with 4249 viewsElderGrizzly

Donacien on 20:23 - Aug 11 by Herbivore

He's also a novice and would be the only one of the back three with any real mobility. We can't field a balanced, decent back three. I just don't think it's remotely the system to get the best from the players we have.


Oh I agree, i was just focussing on him in isolation rather than a 3.
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Donacien on 20:40 - Aug 11 with 4214 viewsHerbivore

Donacien on 20:22 - Aug 11 by BLUEBEAT

But if we do sign him it’s a viable option.


It's not, we can't field a back three that'd be comfortable playing that system.

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Donacien on 20:55 - Aug 11 with 4172 viewsBLUEBEAT

Donacien on 20:40 - Aug 11 by Herbivore

It's not, we can't field a back three that'd be comfortable playing that system.


Thinks you. I think otherwise.

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