| How long til the next financial crash..... on 19:47 - Jul 29 with 2130 views | Pendejo |
When we stop contributing to EU.
The financial services industry in Europe and much of the stock market are the business equivalent of the Emporers new clothes |  |
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| How long til the next financial crash..... on 19:55 - Jul 29 with 2115 views | BloomBlue |
Deutsche Bank has been in trouble for years because of the incompetent manangrment aided by an incompetent German Government. Good chance they will fold but the question is does the German government have enough money to bail them out if they dont the Germsn economy is going to the pan. |  | | |
| How long til the next financial crash..... on 19:59 - Jul 29 with 2103 views | GeoffSentence |
| How long til the next financial crash..... on 19:55 - Jul 29 by BloomBlue |
Deutsche Bank has been in trouble for years because of the incompetent manangrment aided by an incompetent German Government. Good chance they will fold but the question is does the German government have enough money to bail them out if they dont the Germsn economy is going to the pan. |
They will go begging to Greece. |  |
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| How long til the next financial crash..... on 20:02 - Jul 29 with 2098 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| How long til the next financial crash..... on 19:47 - Jul 29 by Pendejo |
When we stop contributing to EU.
The financial services industry in Europe and much of the stock market are the business equivalent of the Emporers new clothes |
Leaving the EU is likely to precipitate a massive hit to this country - even most leave supporters accept that. It is also likely to negatively impact the EU but to a lesser extent and certainly not for the false logic you present.
I think the OP was suggesting something more on a global scale. If there is a global crash coinciding with us leaving the EU we will be in massive trouble.
That is one good reason why so many "remoaners" are desperate to do everything we can to get the crazy referendum result overturned. |  |
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| How long til the next financial crash..... on 21:41 - Jul 29 with 1989 views | gazzer1999 |
| How long til the next financial crash..... on 19:55 - Jul 29 by BloomBlue |
Deutsche Bank has been in trouble for years because of the incompetent manangrment aided by an incompetent German Government. Good chance they will fold but the question is does the German government have enough money to bail them out if they dont the Germsn economy is going to the pan. |
I think during question time from Ipswich a few years back, a lady said that Germany had so much reserves it could pay off the debt of all the rest of the EU. No one argued or disputed it. I love the equality of the EU project. |  | | |
| How long til the next financial crash..... on 21:45 - Jul 29 with 1984 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| How long til the next financial crash..... on 21:41 - Jul 29 by gazzer1999 |
I think during question time from Ipswich a few years back, a lady said that Germany had so much reserves it could pay off the debt of all the rest of the EU. No one argued or disputed it. I love the equality of the EU project. |
Not sure the EU project was ever about a communist redistribution of wealth project.
Do Question Time normally fact check statements? It would be good if they did. I presume anything on Brexit made for a lot of corrections being aired. | |
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| How long til the next financial crash..... on 21:47 - Jul 29 with 1976 views | crunchie1978 |
1st November according to this board! |  | | |
| How long til the next financial crash..... on 21:47 - Jul 29 with 1975 views | gazzer1999 |
| How long til the next financial crash..... on 21:45 - Jul 29 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Not sure the EU project was ever about a communist redistribution of wealth project.
Do Question Time normally fact check statements? It would be good if they did. I presume anything on Brexit made for a lot of corrections being aired. |
Really, so why are some countries payers in and others taker outs? | | | |
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| How long til the next financial crash..... on 21:51 - Jul 29 with 1959 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| How long til the next financial crash..... on 21:47 - Jul 29 by gazzer1999 |
Really, so why are some countries payers in and others taker outs? |
Care to share some official figures for those claims? | |
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| How long til the next financial crash..... on 21:58 - Jul 29 with 1941 views | J2BLUE |
Soon. |  |
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| How long til the next financial crash..... on 22:04 - Jul 29 with 1929 views | gazzer1999 |
So you already knew that at least 17 members get money with no outlay? | | | |
| How long til the next financial crash..... on 22:05 - Jul 29 with 1926 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| How long til the next financial crash..... on 20:02 - Jul 29 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Leaving the EU is likely to precipitate a massive hit to this country - even most leave supporters accept that. It is also likely to negatively impact the EU but to a lesser extent and certainly not for the false logic you present.
I think the OP was suggesting something more on a global scale. If there is a global crash coinciding with us leaving the EU we will be in massive trouble.
That is one good reason why so many "remoaners" are desperate to do everything we can to get the crazy referendum result overturned. |
While I hadn't seen that this thread was going to lead to EU bashing it has to be said that the ECB is leading the way re negative intetest rates...
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/how-low-can-we-go-lflbkpwn8
"Many credit unions are capping members’ savings, for example, to limit the bill they are charged when they place this money on deposit at the banks."...pretty insane
what the wider implications of this on the wider banking system and wider economy are is what I am curious about....it does look like Europe is likely to be the epicentre of the next earthquake though. [Post edited 29 Jul 2019 22:06]
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| How long til the next financial crash..... on 22:06 - Jul 29 with 1912 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| How long til the next financial crash..... on 22:04 - Jul 29 by gazzer1999 |
So you already knew that at least 17 members get money with no outlay? |
Can't see that in either article.
"Each country pays a ‘membership fee’ and gets benefits"
is what it actually says.
Care to enlighten where it says 17 member states have no outlay? | |
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| How long til the next financial crash..... on 22:08 - Jul 29 with 1902 views | J2BLUE |
| How long til the next financial crash..... on 22:06 - Jul 29 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Can't see that in either article.
"Each country pays a ‘membership fee’ and gets benefits"
is what it actually says.
Care to enlighten where it says 17 member states have no outlay? |
So the £350m Brexit bus was actually accurate in your eyes? | |
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| How long til the next financial crash..... on 22:08 - Jul 29 with 1902 views | gazzer1999 |
| How long til the next financial crash..... on 22:05 - Jul 29 by BanksterDebtSlave |
While I hadn't seen that this thread was going to lead to EU bashing it has to be said that the ECB is leading the way re negative intetest rates...
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/how-low-can-we-go-lflbkpwn8
"Many credit unions are capping members’ savings, for example, to limit the bill they are charged when they place this money on deposit at the banks."...pretty insane
what the wider implications of this on the wider banking system and wider economy are is what I am curious about....it does look like Europe is likely to be the epicentre of the next earthquake though. [Post edited 29 Jul 2019 22:06]
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Not sure EU bashing, just putting a few observations into the OP which are relevant. If I had Brexit bashed would you have made that comment? | | | |
| How long til the next financial crash..... on 22:11 - Jul 29 with 1887 views | gazzer1999 |
| How long til the next financial crash..... on 22:06 - Jul 29 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Can't see that in either article.
"Each country pays a ‘membership fee’ and gets benefits"
is what it actually says.
Care to enlighten where it says 17 member states have no outlay? |
Look at the 17 countries that get more out than they put in, it was in your link. | | | |
| How long til the next financial crash..... on 22:16 - Jul 29 with 1870 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| How long til the next financial crash..... on 22:08 - Jul 29 by gazzer1999 |
Not sure EU bashing, just putting a few observations into the OP which are relevant. If I had Brexit bashed would you have made that comment? |
Bash away Gazza these threads have a life of their own I was just confirming to the person I replied to that I hadn't seen it going that way. | |
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| How long til the next financial crash..... on 22:21 - Jul 29 with 1855 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| How long til the next financial crash..... on 22:11 - Jul 29 by gazzer1999 |
Look at the 17 countries that get more out than they put in, it was in your link. |
Not the same though, is it?
Their governments pay in the membership fee.
Their country receive benefits that are greater than the fee.
You could argue that if you put a value on the trade deals and tariff-free trade within the bloc, that we all receive benefits greater than we pay in.
To suggest, as you did, that somehow Germany is raking in money from it does not fit with your analysis of the figures. | |
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| How long til the next financial crash..... on 22:26 - Jul 29 with 1842 views | gazzer1999 |
| How long til the next financial crash..... on 22:16 - Jul 29 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Bash away Gazza these threads have a life of their own I was just confirming to the person I replied to that I hadn't seen it going that way. |
No need to bash, I think Europe is going to have an extremely bad time in the coming years. My guess is that brexit will shoulder a lot of the blame. It is very worrying if we get charged to deposit money in a bank. What would happen if we all withdrew it to put in a tin under the bed the banks would all fail I guess. | | | |
| How long til the next financial crash..... on 22:29 - Jul 29 with 1836 views | gazzer1999 |
| How long til the next financial crash..... on 22:21 - Jul 29 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Not the same though, is it?
Their governments pay in the membership fee.
Their country receive benefits that are greater than the fee.
You could argue that if you put a value on the trade deals and tariff-free trade within the bloc, that we all receive benefits greater than we pay in.
To suggest, as you did, that somehow Germany is raking in money from it does not fit with your analysis of the figures. |
So as someone earlier said £350 million a week was true then?
What I said was Germany have done very well by being in the EU. They needed the Euro as well as the D/Mark would be so strong their exports would be unaffordable. | | | |
| How long til the next financial crash..... on 22:42 - Jul 29 with 1816 views | Swansea_Blue |
| How long til the next financial crash..... on 21:47 - Jul 29 by gazzer1999 |
Really, so why are some countries payers in and others taker outs? |
The sums involved with membership fees (which all pay) are nowhere near big enough to be about wealth distribution. What they’re aimed at is bringing up living standards & skills in the poorer areas for the benefit of all in the EU. It’s pretty much pump priming money.
The bigger economies pay more, which seems pretty reasonable to me. Not exactly an unusual concept. |  |
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| How long til the next financial crash..... on 22:49 - Jul 29 with 1801 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| How long til the next financial crash..... on 22:29 - Jul 29 by gazzer1999 |
So as someone earlier said £350 million a week was true then?
What I said was Germany have done very well by being in the EU. They needed the Euro as well as the D/Mark would be so strong their exports would be unaffordable. |
No, because we actually get a rebate (different to spending within the country. Also it would depend on not investing in any of the projects that currently rely on the EU for funding and the economy taking zero hit.
Considering those in charge have promised to do the former and the latter is confirmed to be an outcome by virtually all on both sides, it is clearly a blatant lie as was pointed out at the time.
https://fullfact.org/europe/350-million-week-boris-johnson-statistics-authority- | |
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| How long til the next financial crash..... on 22:49 - Jul 29 with 1800 views | gazzer1999 |
| How long til the next financial crash..... on 22:42 - Jul 29 by Swansea_Blue |
The sums involved with membership fees (which all pay) are nowhere near big enough to be about wealth distribution. What they’re aimed at is bringing up living standards & skills in the poorer areas for the benefit of all in the EU. It’s pretty much pump priming money.
The bigger economies pay more, which seems pretty reasonable to me. Not exactly an unusual concept. |
Well Poland received over £11 billion net from the EU last year as the biggest beneficiary. And we contributed net roughly the same. Looks like wealth distribution to me.
Remind me again why I want to stay. | | | |
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