| The Boris bounce 09:55 - Jul 28 with 12452 views | GlasgowBlue |
Exclusively at the expense of the Brexit party. Which suggests that if he doesn’t deliver by the 31 October then his honeymoon will be very short lived. |  |
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| The Boris bounce on 10:01 - Jul 28 with 6069 views | Herbivore |
I think it'll start to unravel well before then. |  |
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| The Boris bounce on 10:06 - Jul 28 with 6064 views | DanTheMan |
Is that going to be enough though? Still a large enough chunk of votes going to the BP for it to get hairy in some swing seats I imagine if they are splitting the vote.
Long way to go of course before any election. And with the wonderful headline this morning that No Deal is becoming increasingly likely, you may be right that doing that kills off Brexit Party support.
But it then does cause other problems. I would imagine some quite big problems. |  |
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| The Boris bounce on 10:54 - Jul 28 with 5973 views | Steve_M |
I'll see if I can find the link I saw yesterday but that is remarkably similar to the polling when May took office.
Boris has yet to make a proper decision that affects anyone other than Tory MPs yet. |  |
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| The Boris bounce on 11:29 - Jul 28 with 5908 views | jas0999 |
... another interesting poll this morning. If Labour ditch Corbyn they would gain and jump to 34%. Corbyn continues to hold Labour back. |  | | |
| The Boris bounce on 11:52 - Jul 28 with 5858 views | manchego |
| The Boris bounce on 11:29 - Jul 28 by jas0999 |
... another interesting poll this morning. If Labour ditch Corbyn they would gain and jump to 34%. Corbyn continues to hold Labour back. |
Gove just said that the Govt is expecting no-deal. |  | | |
| The Boris bounce on 12:24 - Jul 28 with 5806 views | ElderGrizzly |
There was another poll that showed Labour with a 4 point lead, but only if they ditched Corbyn. |  | | |
| The Boris bounce on 12:36 - Jul 28 with 5760 views | J2BLUE |
If there was an election tomorrow I probably wouldn't vote. |  |
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| The Boris bounce on 13:46 - Jul 28 with 5677 views | Herbivore |
| The Boris bounce on 12:36 - Jul 28 by J2BLUE |
If there was an election tomorrow I probably wouldn't vote. |
Three years too late. | |
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| The Boris bounce on 13:55 - Jul 28 with 5647 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
An interesting choice of ordering those polls...do you see yourself rejoining in the near future? |  |
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| The Boris bounce on 13:55 - Jul 28 with 5646 views | TractorWood |
It's taken 3 years to achieve nothing and parliament is in recess for 5/6 (including conference season) of the next 13 weeks. If he pulls a deal out of his rear by 31/10/19, he deserves some huge credit. |  |
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| The Boris bounce on 14:17 - Jul 28 with 5600 views | ActionMan |
The same pollsters who predicted Remain would win easy and May would walk away with a thumping majority though. If he delivers Brexit he will win the next General Election with around the same share of the vote Cameron got in 2015. |  | | |
| The Boris bounce on 15:23 - Jul 28 with 5525 views | manchego |
| The Boris bounce on 14:17 - Jul 28 by ActionMan |
The same pollsters who predicted Remain would win easy and May would walk away with a thumping majority though. If he delivers Brexit he will win the next General Election with around the same share of the vote Cameron got in 2015. |
I'll take that bet. | | | |
| The Boris bounce on 17:31 - Jul 28 with 5407 views | bluebud |
| The Boris bounce on 14:17 - Jul 28 by ActionMan |
The same pollsters who predicted Remain would win easy and May would walk away with a thumping majority though. If he delivers Brexit he will win the next General Election with around the same share of the vote Cameron got in 2015. |
I think he'll deliver Brexit by having the election early Nov....rendering Oct null and void for parliamentary intervention leading to us leaving on the legal default. |  | | |
| The Boris bounce on 17:37 - Jul 28 with 5389 views | GlasgowBlue |
| The Boris bounce on 11:29 - Jul 28 by jas0999 |
... another interesting poll this morning. If Labour ditch Corbyn they would gain and jump to 34%. Corbyn continues to hold Labour back. |
Some interesting reading form that poll. Corbyn trails Boris on nearly every question asked. He's even behind Boris on trustworthiness and Boris is a proven liar.
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| The Boris bounce on 17:39 - Jul 28 with 5380 views | Herbivore |
| The Boris bounce on 17:31 - Jul 28 by bluebud |
I think he'll deliver Brexit by having the election early Nov....rendering Oct null and void for parliamentary intervention leading to us leaving on the legal default. |
He'd need two thirds of Parliament to agree that course of action. | |
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| The Boris bounce on 17:41 - Jul 28 with 5379 views | GlasgowBlue |
| The Boris bounce on 17:39 - Jul 28 by Herbivore |
He'd need two thirds of Parliament to agree that course of action. |
No opposition party would dare vote against a general election so it would need a majority of Tories to reject it. | |
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| The Boris bounce on 17:51 - Jul 28 with 5356 views | Herbivore |
| The Boris bounce on 17:41 - Jul 28 by GlasgowBlue |
No opposition party would dare vote against a general election so it would need a majority of Tories to reject it. |
They'd have to block it if it's being used as a way to force through a no deal Brexit. There's no way they'd want to run a GE when winning it means inheriting a chaotic exit from the EU. | |
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| The Boris bounce on 18:02 - Jul 28 with 5335 views | GlasgowBlue |
| The Boris bounce on 17:51 - Jul 28 by Herbivore |
They'd have to block it if it's being used as a way to force through a no deal Brexit. There's no way they'd want to run a GE when winning it means inheriting a chaotic exit from the EU. |
I get what you are saying but it's a "damned if they do/ damned if they don't" trap. | |
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| The Boris bounce on 18:05 - Jul 28 with 5319 views | Herbivore |
| The Boris bounce on 18:02 - Jul 28 by GlasgowBlue |
I get what you are saying but it's a "damned if they do/ damned if they don't" trap. |
I see it as an opportunity to force Boris to own Brexit, I think it could be a strong power move from Labour. They have said they are against a no deal Brexit so supporting something that would lead to no deal Brexit would be electoral suicide. | |
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| The Boris bounce on 18:07 - Jul 28 with 5315 views | GlasgowBlue |
| The Boris bounce on 18:05 - Jul 28 by Herbivore |
I see it as an opportunity to force Boris to own Brexit, I think it could be a strong power move from Labour. They have said they are against a no deal Brexit so supporting something that would lead to no deal Brexit would be electoral suicide. |
Well we won't have long to find out either way. | |
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| The Boris bounce on 18:13 - Jul 28 with 5303 views | Herbivore |
| The Boris bounce on 18:07 - Jul 28 by GlasgowBlue |
Well we won't have long to find out either way. |
I'm not convinced that will be his play. I think he'll ramp up the narrative that it's the EU and remainers trying to thwart Brexit, forcing him to seek a delay from the EU so he can hold a GE to break the deadlock in parliament. He runs the risk of losing some voters to the BP because he'll have gone back on his promise to leave by the 31st of October but breaking promises hasn't harmed him too much in the past. [Post edited 28 Jul 2019 18:34]
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| The Boris bounce on 18:33 - Jul 28 with 5267 views | GlasgowBlue |
| The Boris bounce on 18:13 - Jul 28 by Herbivore |
I'm not convinced that will be his play. I think he'll ramp up the narrative that it's the EU and remainers trying to thwart Brexit, forcing him to seek a delay from the EU so he can hold a GE to break the deadlock in parliament. He runs the risk of losing some voters to the BP because he'll have gone back on his promise to leave by the 31st of October but breaking promises hasn't harmed him too much in the past. [Post edited 28 Jul 2019 18:34]
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I've given up trying to guess what he will do. | |
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| The Boris bounce on 21:16 - Jul 28 with 5178 views | bluebud |
| The Boris bounce on 18:13 - Jul 28 by Herbivore |
I'm not convinced that will be his play. I think he'll ramp up the narrative that it's the EU and remainers trying to thwart Brexit, forcing him to seek a delay from the EU so he can hold a GE to break the deadlock in parliament. He runs the risk of losing some voters to the BP because he'll have gone back on his promise to leave by the 31st of October but breaking promises hasn't harmed him too much in the past. [Post edited 28 Jul 2019 18:34]
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Once this becomes obvious to all I'm afraid to say they're going to look pretty slick - we'll be out and Boris will be in the clear early Nov. No votes lost to the right. | | | |
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